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Absolute Fakin Mugs Game...
Absolute Fakin Mugs Game...
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like most things if you enjoy gambling and can keep it under control then there is no harm having a bet or many bets ,back in the 70s some punters would stand in the bookies all day betting on nearly every race an old boy I knew would bet on most races all afternoon most would say he had a problem but he had it under control imo he would go into the same bookies every day no Sunday racing them days so 6 days a week bet 15 pence ew on the tote on 10/1 or bigger pokes 1 per race most would lose or he would get a few places and every now and then he would hit a winner it didn't matter to him if he lost at the end of the day as he had got his entertainment he was with fellow punters having a laugh and banter and he enjoyed what he was doing and it floated his boat so to speak.
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Absolutely right Foyles. I worked in 3 betting shops as a young man in late 60s and never knew any customer who won in the long run or who had a problem. It was just entertainment. Nobody should expect to win but if you do, count yourself very lucky.
No disrespect Acey but how anyone can be involved in racing for 40 years but gets upset when formbook gets thrown out of the window is beyond me. |
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If you didn't have a "lightbulb moment" pretty much the first time you saw the Betfair interface - and 25 years later you still haven't - there is no hope for you.
There are many ways to skin a cat - but betting like it's still the 1980's (searching pre-race for the winner of a horse race) is akin to trying to skin a cat with one of those wooden forks from the chippy. |
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each to their own management for me finding winners especially in group races or graded races is what I enjoy trying to do ,some prefer trading laying etc I am not dependant on having to win have other forms of income so if I win or lose in the long run it don't matter to me.
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As you say Foyles, each to their own. If your objective is enjoyment and you are enjoying yourself - job done.
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obviously we would all like to win every time it may be possible on here trading laying or whatever to win 99/times out of a 100 I don't know I've never felt the need to explore it,some may risk a grand to win a score and good luck to them but it doesn't appeal to me and if I'm honest I prob haven't got the arshole to play that way.
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I'd say you've got a straight choice between looking for winners or looking for a profit - because looking for winners to achieve a profit is not something many people are capable of doing.
It's not a coincidence (imo) that there is only one long-standing poster of (pre-race) selections on here (that keeps an accurate/honest running total of P&L). My comments aren't really aimed at you Foyles - you sound happy enough with your lot - but the opening poster sounds like he is fed up with losing. |
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prob needs to ask himself does he really want to win or like most happy to win a decent amount now and then ,backing pre race shortish prices in my exp unless you are selective in the extreme by that I mean may be one or 2 bets a in a couple of months for example you wont win long term, even at that rate you still need a very good strike rate at the prices .
respect to George I found it played with my mind and affected my actions keeping a record of p&l . I put em up sometimes obviously I'll have more winners than losers but at big prices a winner often wipes out a whole lot of losers . |
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It may well not be the case for you foyles - but you've just (perhaps inadvertently) highlighted the secondary problem of making a profit via finding (pre-event) winners.
Even if you overcome the primary issue (the maths) and maybe you find a way of achieving a 3% strike rate at an average price of say 44.00 BFSP or a 5% strike rate at average price of say 24.00 BFSP, etc, etc, - you've done it, you've cracked it (on paper)! But what about the reality and the variance? How do you feel, (when as is to be expected at those prices) you find yourself on a run of say 80 or 100 consecutive losers (maybe also throw in a 33/1 winner that you didn't quite get matched because it fell a whisker short of your acceptable back price!) - how is your self-confidence, your resilience, your discipline, your self belief, etc? Even if you crack the maths of pre-race, you've still got a secondary mountain to climb in terms of the mental fortitude required (that most people don't possess). |
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thankfully in the last 5 years ive never hit a run of losers anywhere that bad on the ones i put up on here which are main bets which i always back myself , sometimes i may have what i call impulse bets if the footy is on the box or if im watching the racing i might place bets just to keep me from getting bored but i dont put those type of bets up and they are to small stakes anyway and from a seperate bank to my main betting bank.as i say i put up more losers than winners but at the prices i play its to be expected.
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There was an acey double yesterday Foyles, Stumptown and Saint Segal.
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Cagliari should be ashamed to show imv,he chased the hibb in my opinion…..
Kept on nipping at the heels imo. |
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Unhappy Hibby
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Watching the Simcock horse going 10/1 and growing through the race acey has a point….
A dreadful advertisement for racing….. |
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437 win singles to date this year. 98 of them have finished 2nd. Tearing out my reaming hair. Mugs game? Well maybe. This year has been a statistical freak on a monumental scale. A handful of photos the other way and the frustration would be elation. Will I do it all again next year? Never in doubt!
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Finally Fahey hits a big pot
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Mr Consistent.
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My least liked Trainer, ever.
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Like most of that Northern Mob.
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Corkscrew is the image which always comes to mind.
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for once acey right
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Aye plenty Champions oan show.
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really is a khazi this card since switched from HQ
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are we all on prague at 1000 ?
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Flat racing in this Country towards the end of October has never been easy
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all the £13 has been taken since I posted
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It's a **** meeting, the ground's gone, it's all bollox. With the kind of prize money available why not have it on mid season ground and call it something else? I think it's a total bollox meeting where it is. Shocking bad advert for racing. People will just think: what an expensive, ball-ache way of flushing money down the toilet.
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Not everybody,imo.
The Bookmakers love it |
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Agree time to have a break
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Let's hope we get plenty of the forecast rain soon and get the NH Horses out
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You can see why punters are turning there backs on betting on Horseracing.....It never used to be this bad i have all but giving up backing Horses.Like i keep saying even the mugs can only take so much.
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Discipline has always been required Acey but God Knows what The COTC has done to the ground?
Can anyone remember seeing sand kicked up at this Meeting? |
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I saw it too, again. I wondered if it was put down specifically to make the bend safer? That wouldn’t though account for the first track I noticed it at previously. Is it maybe a dressing for the turf?. Doesn’t appear to kick up too high. Maybe Chamberpot could feature it on a forthcoming show in the interest of our information. That’s if he actually gives a fig for the regular racing fans.
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Willie did the hard work
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