Dewhurst ..

they sell meat...hths..

No paddy they don't, went into liquidation years ago

I will be giving the race a goods look later tonight,poncho.
A glance tells me it is wide open

Yeah, any one of 4 ? Had a good look at Gosdens
But cant quite bring myself to back it, think it wants a mile
Already, stalls in the middle, stand side draw might be favoured?

Sorry Sidney been out of the Country for awhile thanks for the update Sid...

You can look at form ,but whatever they plan is out of punters control  so really wouldnt waste my time ,just look at the last from newmarket ,,fap last time out went from the front won ,,this time out the back with handbrake on ,,so as ive said pointless

Ya mean we let you in ?? No idea, who’s Sid, tell Sid ??

Aint most of ye called Sid or Pommie ?

Horse name / Dates in training / Deceased Date

I'd like to know  / 10th May 22 - 2nd Jan 25 / 2nd Jan 25

Hurricane Danny / 30th Jan 25 - 10th Fed 25 /  10th Feb 25

Fort St Angelo  / 23rd May 24 - 24th Feb 25 /  24th Feb 25

Torrent Del Oro / 26th Oct 23 - 10th Mar 25 / 10th Mar 25

Tea and Chats  / 7th Jul 22  - 7th Apr 25  /  7th Apr 25

Highway One O Two / 3rd Jan 19 - 22nd Apr 25 / 22nd Apr 25

Psyche  / 9th Sept 21 - 29th May 25  / 29th May 25

Press your luck  / 27th Oct 19 - 5th Jun 25  / 5th Jun 25

Our Champ  / 10th Jul 23 - 27th Aug 25 / 27th Aug 25


The 10th horse on the list was Tambo's Troop's who died in 2024

ponchoslament 03 Oct 25 20:54
And Chris Gordon is primarily a jumps trainer, only a handful of
Of flat horses, hé was quoted after having a flat winner, ‘we’re
Having a lovely time’, there’s no way 10 of his horses have died, ffs

Benji the Brain

Jacko,  have you moved onto Chris Gordon now, whats
Happened to thé 33 dead ones at Bin Suroors?? If 10 have
Died at CG’s that’s very concerning. Why don’t you email him
And ask him?? Im sure hé will reply, losing 10 in that short space of
Time, I’ve never heard of that before, from big strings. Email him ??

Tony Calvin
@tony_calvin
·
Oct 5
We have discussed this today as regards the running order and, legally, we are going to need to scrutinise the figures a lot more in order to comment on this to any meaningful degree on the podcast. But I am happy to share the BHA's on-the-record response to me.
Tony Calvin
@tony_calvin
BHA: "We publish racing-related fatality rate data on the HorsePWR website, and from 2024 onwards we have extended data reporting of a raceday fatality to include all horses euthanised within 48 hours of the raceday incident, whether that’s as a direct result of an injury or any other reason (sometimes referred to as “elective euthanasia”).

As is also referenced on HorsePWR, British racing is currently working to capture full visibility on horses who sustain long-term or fatal injuries away from the racecourse


Dont need to email anyone all information is freely available on bha website as you were previously advised in case you are going senile

I'd be looking at one of the bigger price ones, since the shorter ones on form to date Zavateri and Gstaad are closer to 115 than 120, and Distant Storm is back after only 16 days off from an impressive time performance (which may have taken more out of him than they think).

Saba Desert may not have liked the slower ground at the Curragh, has Newmarket form albeit on The July Course, beat Italy (whose half the odds) at York, and IMO should be a touch shorter. Faster ground and the stand sides draw hopefully both positives.

Well the information available about bin suroors,
Is most of the horses has left his care, hé wasnt training them
One of them died years after. Your mate Calvin, has obviously had
A look, and it reads like nothing to see here ???

You don’t seem interested in racing at all jacko, but drag up
****, you post topics insinuating a trainer has had 33 horses die

Then it turns out to be b*** s**t

We shall see lad nice deflection though, technically u were correct as only 9 died this calender year


ponchoslament 03 Oct 25 20:54
And Chris Gordon is primarily a jumps trainer, only a handful of
Of flat horses, hé was quoted after having a flat winner, ‘we’re
Having a lovely time’, there’s no way 10 of his horses have died, ffs

Well he Shirley wouldn’t have said, we’re having a lovely
Time, if 10 of his horses had recently died, the owners
Of those horses, would not be impressed???

Do you have a view on the dewhurst, other than they are
Butchers, tut, after all, the thread is about thé dewhurst ??

Wacko seems a tad obsessed,
Perhaps he can keep his views on deceased horses to the ?relevant thread

Post 17:32 any1 of 4 Brain dead comment hth

Why are you such a helmet bentring ?

Agreed Bentring.  You get used to it.

I would love to see Zavateri win and he can certainly do so.I certainly would favour him over Gstaad,albeit narrowly.
The Distant Storm that ran at York would have no chance but he settled last time and guided up over C&D and if repeating that run will probably win.
The others make little appeal.
No pre race bet for me but if Distant Storm settles I will back I/R.
Good luck whatever you do

Anybody ???  That has an echo to it!

Only took the bottler -  5 or so hours to talk about the first 2 from the race in Ireland!

Yeah irons, similar, it’s hard to be against any of the
Front 3, like the gosden horse, might back it if drifts
If they drift over to stands side, zava and distant might
Struggle to a clear run, Godolphin have a pace maker
Hé will surely stsy in the middle. If I was gewan and alparslan
I’d be heading to stand rail, looking forward to the race

Do you actually have a view of your own on the race,Delbert or will ?you invade this thread with your usual relentless C&P Crap?

Just noticed your post Bent ring, do please
Explain ???

I suspect that the thread is about to be invaded with relentless C&P from Delbert.

Would also love to see Avateri win. Gets boring o'Brien or Godolphin winning everything and having Guineas fav every year. Eve Johnson Houghton could dream for six months about winning the 2.000gns. Good luck Eve.

Only cost 35,000gns from book 2

Yeah incredible that, absolutely incredible, when
You see what they were paying for them this week at tatts ?

Alparslan drifted out to 33s, was 8s during the week?
Ground now gd to fm ??

yeah Good to Firm (Good in places)

The times suggest that was the same yesterday,poncho

Gstaad went from 5.5 into 3.25 overnight

One of many no bet races for me but like others will be hoping Zavateri wins for his excellent trainer

Ponch I wouldn't rule out any horse in the race it may go in your favour with the 4 but I wouldn't go with that theory

I’m with Brian.

Ok BR, well it’s hardly a brain dead comment, is it ?

Cant have alparslan, thé two hé beat at thé curragh, both beat 8 lens next time

Cant have Italy, runs way too free, hangs right, ,and the dip might be a problem, but lots of ability

Cant have Saba desert, Gewan will last longer than at Donny, but cant back him

Pacemaker no, Gosden horse is progressive, but wants a Mile.

Looked at Distant storms race again, it beat nothing at Newmarket, he’s got the most to prove
And he needs to settle and get the run of race from the back, so he’s the weakest of the front 3 ?
No bet at 2s. Will back Oxagon if he drifts?

Has Gewan a chance with Mrs Doyles son up

For those uncultured amongst you, of which there are most definitely a few!

Bonnard was known as a colourist and cutting edge in his time for his composition. Great friends with the unsavoury Gauguin with whom he shared all of his insight and knowledge with. Until later in life when they had a falling out after Bonnard had realised that Gauguin was a snide copycat who had been pilfering techniques from others for years under the blinded Bonnard’s nose!

Lesson a master never tells everything that he knows!

the front 3 in the market not a lot between em odds wise or form wise ,they may well fight out the finish but too short for me ,distant view was near 5l behind gewan for whatever reason that one disappointed last time but at the odds  I am with gewan this time has won both his races on gd to firm . I like to play at big odds and alpasen looks way too big to me Karl Burke has got some very good juveniles and has a line with gstaad through his venetian sun who she beat narrowly in France ,alpasren looked very decent to me in both his wins and should improve weather he can beat the big guns we shall see but its all about the price to me and he will do for me. zaverteri and gstaad may have had a hardish race last time .
selections gewan 25s ish or bigger on here and alparsen  40s plus on here good luck opinions encouraged.

uptheirons • October 5, 2025 3:09 PM BST
No pre race bet for me.
Good luck to all
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Another pot and kettle black moment from Alf!

As you yourself showed last week, one can post without making a selection in public!

Let's hope the origin of cornetto wins this.

Saba desert got a squeak,hammered Italy last of bridle,Italy ran the favs close.

Headgear applied after poor Curragh run.round a bend

Won easily before here at same trip group 2.has to figure on form.

Match bet: Oxagon (1.71); Italy (2.24).

yes agree cuth  he kinda jumped up in the air leaving the stalls when beating Italy and distant storm and at the prices  I like to give myself a chance it dilutes it i know but happy with 3 big priced win pokes have added saba desert at near 50s on here .

Italy for me in all market. Should get a really good gallop in the too aim at. Appleby having a couple making sure the gallop is a decent one, he should settle better and come through 1f out.
Gstaad is too short as he's been beaten twice and has nothing in hand of this lot

thank you that'll do nicely

Well done Foyler.

.... Mrs Doyles horse. " Gewan Gewan Gewan "

Vwd.

uptheirons • October 10, 2025 11:22 PM BST
I would love to see Zavateri win and he can certainly do so.I certainly would favour him over Gstaad,albeit narrowly.
The Distant Storm that ran at York would have no chance but he settled last time and guided up over C&D and if repeating that run will probably win.
The others make little appeal.

Five hours to look at the top two in the market!

No wonder you haven’t plucked up enough courage to give your pre race view before!

.. Foyleswar .. 

Cant have Saba desert, Gewan will last longer than at Donny, but cant back him
ponchoslament 10 Oct 25 17:32 
Yeah, any one of 4 ? Had a good look at Gosdens
But cant quite bring myself to back it, think it wants a mile
Already, stalls in the middle, stand side draw might be favoured?

Great calls from Foyles and poncho

..... Right on cue, the copy and paste bore.

Waagowaaan?! Der sir?!

Nice bit of form franking from the two from the Champagne at Longchamp last weekend

well done poncho and all other winners

3 weeks of Newmarket parading millions worth of 2 yr olds to be left with everyone
been non the wiser

Couldn't desert Zavateri after backing him to win 4 times. I had also backed Gewan every time but he looked exposed last time so went place only on him. Never fancied any of the others.

Doyle looked properly excited talking to Andrew B in the enclosure, still think Zeus Olympic is better

“The others make little appeal.”

I’m off to the Rub a Dub Dub!

Going might be the key as Gewan has never lost on good/firm. Zavateri was finsihing and still might be the best  over a mile on good or just on the soft side.

Well done winners.
Apparently my decision to not  have a bet was  incorrect,Delbert.
BTW,a summary of a race is hardly the same as 100 C&P quotes and still not having a selection and then aftertiming a profit

33.8 bfsp

wd foyles

thanks guys !

Formoftheihaventaclue what do you think now ye helmet/spoon

well done bentring

you've had a few decent ones recently, are you keeping a record of your roi?

His P&L will surely show that elise

depends where he bets and he quite often quotes bookie prices

I see.
In that case he should record all his Bookmaker bets for clarity

Bentring Joined: 25 Dec 20
Replies: 1423 11 Oct 25 15:21 
Formoftheihaventaclue what do you think now ye helmet/spoon

WD Bentring that was a nice poke…..

no Elise I like to keep it simple , when I started keeping a records it started playing with my mind and affected my thinking ,George b don't let it affect him but it did me so I  don't keep any written records or anything  no trackers  or any of that stuff I don't like to  complicate it its hard enough as it is ,done ok the last week or so but as we know at big prices losing runs are part and parcel.

Italy form lines was the key,winner beat it,favs beat it,Saba beat it,the grey winner put me off,

ok foyles well nice result enjoy the rest of the day

and you Elise and good luck .

What a **** you are jacko, but you shot your load a bit early
All you ever post is negative c**p

Well done BR and Foyles,I couldn’t forgive thst Donny run
More fool me