Manchester attack

Meanwhile, 68 people have been quietly killed in Gaza in the last 24 hours.... AND, anticipating source demands from the rabid One-eyed Red Neck army on here, the SOURCE: The Times of Israel!

Fool, people tend to get killed in wars. Is there a war in Manchester,
or this country?

In your perverted world, ihal essex, does that give the green light for more Jews to be attacked and killed by Syrian terrorists in Manchester ?

Weak leadership can’t handle terror…..

This country is going to hell…..

ihal essex 04 Oct 25 15:10 
Meanwhile, 68 people have been quietly killed in Gaza in the last 24 hours.... AND, anticipating source demands from the rabid One-eyed Red Neck army on here, the SOURCE: The Times of Israel!

You get what you vote for…..

If Hamas cared about civilians as much as our lunatic left,
or at all, they wouldn't have used them as human shields
and their bodies as tools of propaganda.

Weak leaders playing politics with heinous crimes and immigration eg the Pakistani grooming gangs that terrorised vulnerable white females for over 2 decades; buying votes (for power) and the fear of losing their support; the wanton killings and stabbings of joe public by jihadists on London streets; the numerous illegals from S Asia exploiting student and carer visas.

Morons out in force for this one.

Illiterate123, sh1tto, Ratman and fartontheface, intellectuals all

On Westminster Bridge (whilst posting on the bf forum as captaincrusty)

Weak leaders don’t want to upset you know who……

The Uk should be spending a lot on one way tickets….

Doubtful most taxpayers would complain,especially the ones with young kids…..

Hope you enjoy playing out with your new friends ratman, the thickest of the thick

I just look back at the slaughter committed by certain types Captain….

The stats don’t lie……

When the circus on the Thames turned a blind eye after Manchester arena and Lee Rigby getting slaughtered at the hands of pure stinking dirt…..

The country was caught in quicksand,slowly sinking into hell.

Wars are usually fought between two armies, not one as is happening in Gaza. The IDF, with the might of the USA and the collusion of the one-eyed western press, is engaged, without hindrance, in the extermination of the Palestinian population. Have you all had a humanitarian bypass operation, or were you all spawned that way?

CC, the big moaner about personal abuse.  15.48 and 15.49.  .    
You just have to laugh.

Mr Assad slaughtered tens and tens of thousands of HIS OWN PEOPLE.  Did he have one eye and a humanitarian bypass .

It's always the same "religious" lot who do not practise what they preach but with outrageous and misogynistic behaviour and mentality towards women (usually white eg Pakistani grooming gangs) not practised by any of the other ethnic groups eg Chinese, Europeans, Afro-Caribbeans, Africans, etc, in the UK with excuses aplenty when challenged or confronted publicly eg citing racial discrimination, Islamophobia, etc, etc.

According to the world of ihal, the might of the combined forces of the IDF and the US are still struggling to take out Gaza after nearly 2 years.

Someone let him down gently, and tell him that if that's what they wanted, it would take 2 days.

If that.

Strange how hundreds of jews are going around the world speaking about the horrors of the holocaust and  how it should never be allowed to happen again nor forgotten at the same time their brethren are engaged in the Genocide / attempted eradication of another race.

    As of 1 October 2025, over 69,100 people (67,144 Palestinians[4][9] and 1,983 Israelis[c]) have been reported killed in the Gaza war according to the Gaza Health Ministry (GHM) and Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, as well as 217 journalists and media workers,[46][d] 120 academics,[49] and over 224 humanitarian aid workers, a number that includes 179 employees of UNRWA.[50] Scholars have estimated 80% of Palestinians killed are civilians.[6][5][7][51] A study by OHCHR, which verified fatalities from three independent sources, found that 70% of the Palestinians killed in residential buildings or similar housing were women and children.[52][53]

Mr Assad slaughtered tens and tens of thousands of HIS OWN PEOPLE.  Did he have one eye and a humanitarian bypass .

Honcho: you're setting the humanitarian bar a bit low, dear boy. Even Bibi and Putin might scale your snake-belly test! Where's Assad now?

Where are his victims now?  And where were the other Arab nations as he carried out his evil?  Sitting motionless allowing it to happen is where.  So you’d do well to take that into account when you knock the west, which can’t be all that bad as you choose to live here?!

If you're getting thrashed in a war, Glasgow, generally surrendering is the only logical option. In this case, all that means is giving up civilian hostages snatched in a pogrom.

Ihal is correct in his assertion that a war usually involves two or more opposing sides, the slaughter in Gaza cannot be called a war in any conventional sense. The Warsaw Ghetto clearances as close to what is happening as any other event within a war but even there,there was opposition against the perpetrators which is more than is happening in Gaza.

I am pro Israeli but imo this " Conflict" ceased being a war a while ago, murdering women and children, elderly and infirm who are no threat can not be justified simply by calling it a war.

I am pro Israeli but imo this " Conflict" ceased being a war a while ago, murdering women and children, elderly and infirm who are no threat can not be justified simply by calling it a war.


You think they are targeting - 'women and children, elderly and infirm' ?

Really ?

Assad has better luck than Saddam or Gaddafi. He does not deserve it though given the vile and inhumane treatments he dished out on his people eg chemical weapons/agents and industrial tortures.

Or the terrorists are using those types of people as shields?

This "ihal essex" must be a parody account, surely ?

I think CC must have had a good lunchtime session Honcho, as he likes to mess around with other forumites user names then i thought i could do the same with his, an anagram of which is -

Crapstain City

I expect you are more of an expert Cider as my service only covered 3 decades and I have been fooled into thinking bombing is not indiscriminate?

If you say that someone is using a sledgehammer to crack a nut, you mean that they are using stronger measures than are really necessary to solve a problem.


If ever a saying was appropriate.

You can't really have a conventional war with rapists, terrorists and baby killers on the opposing side. Savages, basically. As we saw on Thursday.

Given your extensive expertise, are you claiming that the IDF are targeting - 'women and children, elderly and infirm' ?

Yes / No

Did I mention IDF Cider? Maybe the bombing comment will give you a hint?

Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group through direct attacks on civilians and protected objects; severe mistreatment of detainees; forced displacement; and environmental destruction

Deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about the destruction of the group in whole or in part through destruction of structures and land essential to Palestinians; destruction and denial of access to medical services; forced displacement; blocking essential aid, water, electricity and fuel from reaching Palestinians; reproductive violence; and specific conditions impacting children

Imposing measures intended to prevent births through the December 2023 attack on Gaza's largest fertility clinic, reportedly destroying around 4,000 embryos and 1,000 sperm samples and unfertilised eggs

Who is bombing who?

good to hear from an expert that the iron dome is now obsolete

What I find truly frightening is that Brit members of the IDF who have engaged as snipers in the shooting of young kids in the head as they queued for food, return to GB without any questions about th⁹eir murderous activities.

SOURCE: The courageous English, Scottish and Irish doctors, in interviews, who volunteer to tend to the Gazan civilians, risking their own lives in the process. And IDF soldiers themselves, bragging about the atrocities  on social media outlets! They should be arrested at Heathrow on return!

Those comments prove you are nothing but a keyboard warrior Cider, juvenile and crass.

Given your extensive expertise, are you claiming that the IDF are targeting - 'women and children, elderly and infirm' ?
I

YES. See my last post

Cider, why is the fanatical warmonger not listening to the 82% of his population who want the war to end. ??

An Israeli reservist who served three tours of duty in Gaza has told Sky News in a rare on-camera interview that his unit was often ordered to shoot anyone entering areas soldiers defined as no-go zones, regardless of whether they posed a threat, a practice he says left civilians dead where they fell.

"We have a territory that we are in, and the commands are: everyone that comes inside needs to die," he said. "If they're inside, they're dangerous you need to kill them. No matter who it is," he said.

https://news.sky.com/story/israeli-soldier-describes-arbitrary-killing-of-civilians-in-gaza-13393422

Just one source there have been many others.

I can’t ever remember Cagliari being in a war tbh….apology if wrong…..he knows i respect all military past and present…

Grok on Elon Musk's platform X

Based on a broad review of credible sources representing Israeli, Palestinian, UN, and NGO perspectives, there is substantial evidence from multiple independent investigations indicating that IDF actions have included deliberate or systematic targeting of civilians, medical personnel, aid seekers, and civilian infrastructure in Gaza. This includes patterns of shootings at unarmed crowds, airstrikes on non-military sites without justification, and policies enabling high civilian casualties. However, Israel and the IDF consistently deny these allegations, asserting that all operations target Hamas militants and infrastructure, with civilian deaths resulting from Hamas's use of human shields or operational necessities in a dense urban environment. Civilian casualty ratios—estimated at 83% by leaked IDF data—are cited by critics as evidence of intent or recklessness, while Israel claims ratios are historically low given the context.

Hopefully Donald will sort this mess in Gaza and rightfully return the stolen (dead and barely alive) to the families…

I don’t care much about the rest tbh…..

I’ve watched too many documentaries regarding you know what to forget…..

Cardinal Scott 04 Oct 25 17:02 

Based on a broad review of credible sources representing Israeli, Palestinian, UN, and NGO perspectives, there is substantial evidence from multiple independent investigations indicating that IDF actions have included deliberate or systematic targeting of civilians,

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The HAMAS 'army' entered Israel on the 7th October solely to target civilians.
6,00 Gaza 'civilians' went along with them to join in the slaughter.
You get what you ask for.

6,000 Gaza 'civilians'

Breaking News: East Sussex mosque firebombed yesterday, with hardly a mention in the media. I wonder why? Anyway, I'm confident that this Forum will unanimously condemn this outrage, including even the raging redneck racists who I am sure will also be horrified. Speak up boys!

Obviously fire bombed by the simple mind….

Terror is committed by the evil mind….

Check the stats all over Europe….

Ihal….you can’t get away from the slaughter committed in the UK,France and Isreal…….dreadful scenes…

9/11 dancing in the streets more vomit inducing venom…..

Ihal and his ilk will always be apologists for certain groups and indulge in deflection wherever possible.

The mosque fire is a disgraceful incident as are all arson attacks. It wasn't a bomb, the criminals set fire to liquid outside the entrance and over a car outside.
Damage thankfully was limited. The story has been reported by the media, including the bbc on their website as well as their tv and radio reports, so please stop making out otherwise Ihal.

Maybe Ihal can enlighten us as to how many innocents have been murdered by Islamist terrorists in the UK over the last 20 years, compared to far right fanatics during the same period ?

What I find ungracious, ungrateful and even mickey-taking from foreigners regarding protests and demonstrations is they tend to repeatedly bring their conflicts from the mainland of their parents/grandparents' to UK Plc thus annoying and inconveniencing the other ethnics and locals. Some conflicts in the Middle East are ingrained with a long history eg India / Pakistan; Iran / Iraq / Syria / Israel / etc.

UK Plc is their host or adopted country. As such, why involve other inhabitants of UK Plc as well? I'm certain most non-political foreigners who have adopted UK Plc as their 2nd country or are living here temporarily have chosen UK Plc for it's political stability, freedom of movement, economic opportunity, constitution and established legal laws, welfare state, etc.

A note to the foreigners: Please do not import / fight your political grievances and conflicts to / in UK Plc respectively. This is so unfair to the other non-political, law abiding and peaceful UK foreign or local residents.

I condemn the Mosque arson outrage.  Unequivocally.  As any decent individual would.  Hopefully no-one was killed, particularly children.

ihal THe Mosque story was well reported this morning on TV news and is on the main page of both the Telegraph and the Guardian.

Is there any shrine for the Chinese or the foreigners from East Asia in UK Plc? There are so many mosques and a few synagogues for foreigners here. Even churches are a diminishing entity in UK Plc despite a large section of foreigners are Christians.

Why is religion such a monumental and controversial subject to some foreigners? s
Some see religion as a non-essential belief and nonchalant in their lives.

I abhor anti-Semitism equally as much as I hate Islamaphobia, but I object to the distorted media coverage in this country highlighting the real abuse being suffered by Jews whilst ignoring the rampant vilification of Muslims in mainstream media.

A word of advice to the deranged rednecks who sadly infest this forum, stop reading the Mail, Express, Sun, Telegraph, Times etc, stop viewing GB News and for objective news coverage switch to Al Jazeerah. Purge your bigotry and prejudices,Embrace the Truth for once!

Who do we listen to then ? Jeremy Bowen from gut rot BBC……

bowen's advice about keeping out of the black and in the red was right up there with come and look at what you would have won

bfh

there u go foyles, you've solved the immigration problem

Ihal, if you can tear yourself away from Hamas News, any chance of answering the question :

Maybe Ihal can enlighten us as to how many innocents have been murdered by Islamist terrorists in the UK over the last 20 years, compared to far right fanatics during the same period ?

Weak circuses on the Thames continue to allow it to happen….

An individual in Glasgow reckons his maker is more important than his family……quicksand uk…..

Oct 6, 2025 -- 1:47PM, DixieDean60 wrote:

Ihal, if you can tear yourself away from Hamas News, any chance of answering the question :Maybe Ihal can enlighten us as to how many innocents have been murdered by Islamist terrorists in the UK over the last 20 years, compared to far right fanatics during the same period ?

We have a far right element looking to oust a democratically elected government (threats of Farage will be government soon, thinking it will be within a year, how?). There was a similar conspiracy which was foiled in Germany. That is more of a threat to this country than a couple of random nutters driving at people.

ihal essex 06 Oct 25 13:14 
I abhor anti-Semitism

switch to Al Jazeerah. Purge your bigotry and prejudices,Embrace the Truth for once!

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Something not adding up there.

I love NH racing and rattling racist cages, fertile ground on here curiously, a horseracing forum. One of my favourite horses was the legendary Beef Or Salmon, a name that conjurs up warm images of dinner being served up by a homely maid.
I've been saving up my £47 weekly allowance in the hope one day I'll be able to purchase a steeplechase. If it happens I'm going to call it Swan Or Carp, following Nigel's recent revelations re the dining tastes of our dinghy visitors. Bon appetit!

Ihal, if you can tear yourself away from Hamas News, any chance of answering the question :Maybe Ihal can enlighten us as to how many innocents have been murdered by Islamist terrorists in the UK over the last 20 years, compared to far right fanatics during the same period ?

DD, It's not a competition, you fool. I abhor every innocent life lost! Bet you're salivating over the stats though! Don't forget to add in the 267 lives lost in Gaza since Donald the Dictator ordered Bibi to stop bombing the totally defenceless populace.

Meanwhile, Dixie Dean, why not add the letter T to your DD initials and give yourself a good DDT powdering. Hopefully, it will purge you of your all too obvious ailment!

"I love NH racing and rattling racist cages" - is that the intro to your  Grindr profile there ihal ?

Nobody is saying it's a competition you cretin, but as you were wondering why islamists get more vilification in the media i thought i would give you a clue and get you to do some sums.

Always assuming you know how to add up of course.

Ihal Essex. 13.14.  In other words bend the knee to Islam.  Now there’s a surprise.  You shouldn’t hold your breath.

wtf are you droning on about CC.

I love NH racing and rattling racist cages" - is that the intro to your  Grindr profile there ihal ?

Oh dear, DDT, calm down , you appear to be a bit stressed. You've got an advantage over me with regard to your apparently in-depth knowledge of Grindr. Afraid I've never heard of it, is it a news channel?

You definitely need a good powdering with the magic DDT and Donald rates it up there with his Bleach remedy for Covid! Get powdering!

Oct 6, 2025 -- 5:23PM, LoyalHoncho wrote:

wtf are you droning on about CC.

Go and have your nap Grandad. And by the way are you under some contract to reply to my every post? Bloody ell I must be important.

[i]Ihal Essex. 13.14.  In other words bend the knee to Islam.  Now there’s a surprise.  You shouldn’t hold your breath.

L.Honcho, bit disappointed in you, thought you were a tad saner than the Red Necks on here. I bow the knee to no religion, I'm a happy agnostic, a people person! Mind you I'd never turn my back to the DDT aficionado in a dark room!

I thought DDT was meant to keep annoying little pests away ihal ?

Doesn't seem to be working on you.

Very weak response DDT, keep powdering!

for objective news coverage switch to Al Jazeerah. Purge your bigotry and prejudices,Embrace the Truth for once!

It's lways funny to hear the hard left advocate for people to enlighten themselves by seeking out a news organisation funded by the government of a country run by an autocratic government where homosexuaility is illegal, which treats immigrant workers like cattle and women have to ask their guardian for permission to get married or travel.

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Breaking News: East Sussex mosque firebombed yesterday, with hardly a mention in the media. I wonder why? Anyway, I'm confident that this Forum will unanimously condemn this outrage, including even the raging redneck racists who I am sure will also be horrified. Speak up boys!

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Breaking News:  Arif Ali Rafiq charged with arson today, with hardly a mention in the media.

Tis a most perplexing mystery Saddo.

Two very similar arson attacks on mosques over the same weekend, one has blanket coverage by the MSM whereas the other so far has just been reported by the Northamptonshire Telegraph.


I am unable to explain the apparent two tier reporting.  Perhaps ihal can reappear with an explanation for us .

It is on the bbc news website, that mainstream enough for you?

Nothing says angry middle aged white man like Arif Ali Rafiq.

How many people do a detailed search for "Northamptonshire Local News" on the massive BBC website Captain ?

No mention on the BBC news bulletins or any other other prominent outlet of theirs, in complete contrast to the similar Peacehaven event.

Why is this ?

Did you see the coverage of that attack on the synagogue? I do believe that was headline news, in case you missed it.

Deflection by the Captain.

You know exactly what i am saying,  if it was "Angry White Man from Weston" who had been charged rather than Mr Rafiq then it would have been all over the MSM.

Perhaps they were blaming the synagogue attack on jewish people? Err no, there was never ending reporting of it as a ‘terrorist’ attack.

That’s the MSM for you though.

You are talking in riddles Captain.

This is about two arson attacks on mosques, nothing to do with the synagogue event.

Surely it isn’t that difficult for you? There was mass reporting of the attack by this one guy describing him as a ‘terrorist’, just because he was muslim, he didn’t belong to any terrorist group otherwise we’d know. You seem to have a blind spot for only seeing what you want to see.

Just unfortunate for the jewish folk living peacefully here that their brethren in Gaza have decided to commit Genocide, cant see things changing untill a true peace is declared.
The perp in Manchester was said to be rambling " This is for killing our Children " ( that was on bbc news from one of the volunteer security guys ).

The original thread was about the ‘Manchester attack’, it is the likes of you the paranoid racist pensioners who are finding ways to feel victimised.

My point is that if this second mosque attack had been committed by a white person then it would have been widely reported by the MSM. That really should not be difficult to understand.

But if you can't even work out that the attack on the synagogue WAS terrorism (irrespective of the identity of the attacker) then lord help us.

Shelling and bombing in Gaza continuing during the Holiest days in the Jewish calender. 90% of homes either flattened or damaged.

a) i don't feel victimised ( why should i ?)

b) i am certainly not a racist - unlike those who make such claims

c i am not a pensioner

Your usual fact free posting Captain.

Any one who uses the term MSM is by definition a sad little wannabe victim.

Thanks for that detailed response Captain.

You are the living proof that empty vessels do in fact make most noise.

What is MSM?

supplement for old people, improves pains, you should try it

What is MSM?

Mainstream media (MSM) is a term used to refer collectively to the various large mass news media that used to (pre-internet) dominate the communication of "news". The term is now (post-internet) mostly used negatively by people with extreme views in order to contrast it with "alternative media" which is more conducive to their ideology.

People that work in MSM might have a qualification and are more likely to be regulated or adhere to a code of conduct that holds them accountable and responsible (to an extent) for what they publish or broadcast. Whereas "alternative" media might be more attractive to people that just want to hear from random people that say or make things up (mostly via the internet) because that is better suited to their ideological views.

Jeremy Bowen & Matt Frei will keep you well informed……

Cheers "The Management". It sounds pretty much like an anti-BBC News and possibly a cyber plonker too I encountered last month who accused the BBC and its journalists of "fake" news despite their professional qualifications, accreditation and its code of practice. Instead, quoting Youtube and
Al Jazeera as his alternative sources for news gathering and advice.

I think it's more likely to justify his non-compliance and acceptance of purchasing a BBC TV licence prior to accessing terrestrial channels. He's a TV in his house. He's under 50 years old, a foreigner who also chooses not to work.

Whatever you do don’t expect BBC,Channel 4,Al Jeeeezeeera ot TRT….to show the Isreal and American stamp on the food pallets provided for the people of Gaza……