Trump speech to UN, “climate change is the biggest con in the world”

Trump is an utter nutjob

As opposed to those who believe that not using petrol will influence the weather.

Petrol is a product of fossil fuels. The process of producing
Petrol significantly adds to global warming, that in turn impacts our climate.
Note the word climate, NOT weather.
Trust this he!ps.

So, should we stop producing petroleum?

Petrol significantly adds to global warming, that in turn impacts our climate.


Facts worse username ever stop fact stop

The old saying is so true .
You can judge a person by the company they keep .

The process of producing
Petrol significantly adds to global warming

What will be the measurable affects of the UK transitioning to battery powered vehicles to the climate, what will they be, and specifically when will they happen (as in which year, not day!)

NB, we'll put aside how the electricity used in production and to charge up the vehicles aside for now.

You don't need to be a scientist to understand the basics of what The Don is saying:

All he's really saying is that setting fire to things doesn't change their chemical make-up or make them hot.

I don’t suppose that the US having billions worth of fossil fuel to burn up the world with may have influenced Trump’s pea brain in some way?

He spouts the garbage from the last person who whispered in his ear

You don't need to be a scientist to work out that we will never generate enough electricity to be able to plug every vehicle on the road into the national grid. Let alone have places for everyone with vehicles to plug them in. Or, of course, where said electricity will come from if it's a bit windy.

The transportation sector, dominated by road transportation and automobiles, is responsible for a significant portion of global oil consumption. In 2020, the transportation industry accounted for over 64% of the world's oil consumption, with automobiles being a major contributor to this figure.
In the United States, the transportation sector is the largest source of carbon emissions, with light-duty vehicles like passenger cars and trucks making up 57% of transportation sector greenhouse gas emissions.
Furthermore, in Europe, road transportation is the greatest emitter of greenhouse gases, with cars accounting for 60% of this total.
This widespread reliance on petrol-powered vehicles underscores their dominant role in global fuel consumption.

Cider25 Sep 25 10:00Joined: 29 Aug 02 | Topic/replies: 63,539 | Blogger: Cider's blog
You don't need to be a scientist to work out that we will never generate enough electricity to be able to plug every vehicle on the road into the national grid. Let alone have places for everyone with vehicles to plug them in. Or, of course, where said electricity will come from if it's a bit windy.

That's a different point altogether and wasn't the point he was making. He was stating there was no problem to solve. He wasn't pointing out that the solution might be difficult.

Yes I was responding to your post, not Trump.

There are tens of millions of vehicles on the road now battery powered, rather than petrol.

Perhaps you or anyone else can produce the tangible evidence that shows that the transition so far has impacted the climate positively.

If it hasn't, when will it begin?

The biggest impact in a positive sense was during covid when nothing was on the road. 

Lithium batteries isn’t an answer.

I have no idea - I'm not a scientist.

I'm also not 6 years old, so I understand that the solution to a problem that has been nearly 300 years in the making will probably be difficult and take a long time. I also understand that denying it exists will probably make it even more difficult and make it take much longer.

In that case you believe something is true just as certain people tell you it is. Recent history alone suggests that's not the greatest of ideas. Do you not feel a natural inclination to question things you are told, as a default position?

Even if you believed that using petrol cars somehow influences the weather, cold weather is much more potentially harmful than warmer weather to humans. And if you did look at any kind of reliable data on the topic, far fewer people perish due to adverse weather globally, than any time in our history. I suppose modern technology means that it is much easier know about, and see problematic weather events in foreign parts for ourselves. And some people might use that to their advantage in gaslighting those who are willing to believe anything they are told, without questioning.

At least we've arrived where we always arrive, more quickly than usual.

Anybody that sees things differently from you is naive or gullible and has been radicalised or gaslit.
Have a good day.

I'd have given him some respect if he'd just parked it or filed it in the "too difficult" folder. Being the leader of the "free world" is really hard and I'm not really up to it. The "free world" is much bigger and much more problematic than I realised. I'm just gonna focus on America.

That would have been honest. And fair play to him, he is sometimes honest in that respect and after all he was only elected to be the President of America (not the world). But he want's it both ways, he want's to be the leader of the free world, without accepting most of the responsibilities or doing any of the hard work involved. He doesn't do difficult problems - sadly most of the problems in the world today are difficult.

Er, no. It's not whether they see things differently from me, or not. What we have evolved into is many believing something is true, just because who is saying it. So you had four years of Joe Biden as POTUS. And because the 'right people' were telling us all he was compos mentis, anyone saying otherwise (ie he clearly wasn't!), was a conspiracy theorist.

If they can get people to believe that Biden had all of his faculties, and actually running the US government, they can get them to believe pretty much anything.

The argument is a disingenuous one, since what humans do or don’t do doesn’t stop interglacial events, and as stats show, once the ambient temp reaches a certain level, there’s no stopping it.
And that level has been breached.
So all those arguing about stopping this or that are just faffing around with the deckchairs.
There well might be a contributing factor that speeds up the warming, but it’s utterly immaterial if, as is the case, there is zero chance of reversing it.

Ever thought the gaslighting is in fact being perpetrated by vested interests like Saudi Arabia, US oil giants and Russia?

Cider25 Sep 25 10:54Joined: 29 Aug 02 | Topic/replies: 63,542 | Blogger: Cider's blog
What we have evolved into is many believing something is true, just because who is saying it.

That's pretty ironic coming from you. Admittedly though, that is the way things appear to be headed.

Increasingly people seem to have a very narrow minded, one-dimensional view of the world. Thinking (like you) that they have to pick a side, that there are only two sides to choose from, that their side always speaks the truth on every issue and that the "other side" is always wrong/lying about every issue.

People that don't subscribe to that kind of limited thinking are capable of seeing the reality - that both sides have some really good ideas and also some really bad ones.

Contrary to your 10:54 post - I don't have to pick a side and stick to a forced narrative about US Presidents. I'm capable of thinking that Biden was mentally/medically incapable and also thinking that Trump is intellectually/globally incapable.

You meanwhile are living in a bubble where everything from one side is good/true and everything from another side is bad/false. I'm sorry you can't see how limited and stupid that makes you look.

Ever thought the gaslighting is in fact being perpetrated by vested interests like Saudi Arabia, US oil giants and Russia?

What, that the planet has never been through numerous interglacial periods and it’s all been a lie?
And all those fossils of sea life found in the side of elevated landscapes were all put there by the pesky Saudis?

The Management 25 Sep 25 12:42 
Cider25 Sep 25 10:54Joined: 29 Aug 02 | Topic/replies: 63,542 | Blogger: Cider's blog
What we have evolved into is many believing something is true, just because who is saying it.

Cry That's pretty ironic coming from you. Admittedly though, that is the way things appear to be headed.

Increasingly people seem to have a very narrow minded, one-dimensional view of the world. Thinking (like you) that they have to pick a side, that there are only two sides to choose from, that their side always speaks the truth on every issue and that the "other side" is always wrong/lying about every issue.

People that don't subscribe to that kind of limited thinking are capable of seeing the reality - that both sides have some really good ideas and also some really bad ones.

Contrary to your 10:54 post - I don't have to pick a side and stick to a forced narrative about US Presidents. I'm capable of thinking that Biden was mentally/medically incapable and also thinking that Trump is intellectually/globally incapable.

You meanwhile are living in a bubble where everything from one side is good/true and everything from another side is bad/false. I'm sorry you can't see how limited and stupid that makes you look

Does the publican lock you in in a cage when you go for a beer ? Thinking safety reasons tbh
..punters wanting to slap
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The resident illiterate half-wit arrives with a witty and well thought out put-down - imv ffs tbh.

Contrary to your 10:54 post - I don't have to pick a side and stick to a forced narrative about US Presidents. I'm capable of thinking that Biden was mentally/medically incapable and also thinking that Trump is intellectually/globally incapable.

So you have evidence of calling out Biden when he was (nominally) in office ? Hint, it has fukk all to do with Trumo

Trump

The Management 25 Sep 25 13:01 
The resident illiterate half-wit arrives with a witty and well thought out put-down - imv ffs tbh.

Just a natural thought for the pompous pr!k

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fwiw you swerved the pivotal point entirely. The bbc for example are not trying to protect Trump are they, as they hate him. They did everything they could to protect Biden. Why was that? You're only allowed to agree with the bbc sanctioned opinion at any given point in time, and if you don't you're obviously a knuckle dragging racist.

For example, do you think the majority of the illegal boat people collected and brought into Dover by border force and the rnli after shutting off their motor in the middle of the channel, then residing in a nice hotel room for free 24 hours later are currently in direct threat of persecution? (the permitted opinion).

Or do you think the majority of them are trying their luck for some free stuff and a better life than they have at home, knowing there's little to lose.

Sep 25, 2025 -- 12:49PM, dustybin wrote:

Ever thought the gaslighting is in fact being perpetrated by vested interests like Saudi Arabia, US oil giants and Russia?What, that the planet has never been through numerous interglacial periods and it’s all been a lie?And all those fossils of sea life found in the side of elevated landscapes were all put there by the pesky Saudis?

Nope, they are paying to have people dispute scientific research so that muppets can be easily led into not believing what is there before their eyes.

So, all those Sedimentary rock formations that formed the ridges that run through the Peak District, how did they form if not under the ocean?

Do you know how old those ridges are?
A little bit older than the amount of time humans have been selling oil.

You speak of scientific research
.who do you think came up with the chronological charts of the earth, Mobil?

The vast amount of scientific research by experts (obviously you aren’t one of those) assert that climate change is happening. Then we have conspiracy theory loons, and people who think they are being gaslit if there is something they don’t like. These people are easily exploited by the likes of Russia, Saudi Arabia and the US

When do the 'experts' say climate change started, Crusty?

And what has any of that got to do with the fact the charts show something like 5 periods where the icecaps have melted completely and the earth become tropical, long before anything like humans walked the earth?

Can dumb and dumber please give us details of where they studied for their phd’s?

It seems to have coincided with widespread use the internet and social media. Correlation or causation

Craptin
That old chestnut that only those who
..can comment on things
While they comment on things themselves

Go and research it yourself then. Arn’t you even slightly suspicious of how those fossils and rock formations occurred?

Looks like bin, isn’t an ‘expert’, how did I work that out?

I don’t need to be an expert to show your lack of knowledge

How many gang rape victims oh wise one?
You decided yet
You an expert on that, no, but your asserted your own truth though didn’t you?

Now about those rocks and fossils
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You’re the old fossil, I suggest you go back to trainspotting.

So another complete nothing burger from the craptin

Looks like bin, isn’t an ‘expert’, how did I work that out?


Have you remembered yet how many covid jabs you have received, and when was the last one (after listening to the 'experts')

Bin is down with the kids, yo bin

Sep 25, 2025 -- 1:49PM, Cider wrote:

Looks like bin, isn’t an ‘expert’, how did I work that out?Have you remembered yet how many covid jabs you have received, and when was the last one (after listening to the 'experts')

Ssssss, what’s that smell?

I think Martin Todhunter will win the mile and a half race at Newcastle tonight
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Just thought i would change it a bit
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Ssssss, what’s that smell?


Chicken ?

It’s ratman, the unmasked avenger

Why are you too scared to admit it, Crusty?

The man they could not jab

On a quest for truth, justice and the bestest conspiracy theory

You weren't the only mug, there were literally millions. No shame in it (well, not much)

You tell em ratman, you were right as always

I was right about the covid (so called vaccine)



How many did you end up having?

No ratman you were right, ratman knows everything

It's not a trick question.



How many covid vaccine jabs did you end up having?

Sorry ratman, you need to wear the mask if you want to be a superhero not stupid hero

I'm only hoping it was in single digits.

Here we were talking about climate change and yet ratman always has to bring everything back to his bleeding covid jab obsession, what a nutjob ratman is.

You're relying on experts to inform you about climate change. You also relied on experts to be pumped with covid vaccines.

It's almost like you believe that 'experts' are always accurate and trustworthy.

Could well be ‘fake news’, remain vigilant ratman

Experts also claimed that the source of covid was definitely not the Wuhan institute, I seem to recall. You see, expert opinion is pretty malleable. Though the outcomes of those malleable opinions are not always reversible.

You can’t fool ratman, he’ll sniff it out.

Can't fool Crusty for sure (how many?)

Ratman perseveres, he never gives up his quest for truth

You could easily lie about it, how the fukk would I know how many you really had. But you're even too frit to do that.

I had four jabs I believe. Had Covid twice , didn't get sick and certainly didn't die.

Now tell me I was wrong.

What would have been your advice (with hindsight of course) to the people who didn't get jabbed and died ?

Where’s Greta ?

When was the last one Johnny?

I had no jabs and no covid.

You had multiple jabs and covid twice.

Thousands of people were jabbed and died.

Almost like the jab was irrelevant. And it's like any other medical scenario, impacted by multiple uncontrollable variables (including luck)

Oh dear, dear oh dear

Anyhow, this is about what the 'experts' were stating about the jab at the time. And the accuracy of the 'experts' (or otherwise). 'Experts' are nearly always wrong.

Just a recent example I have to hand

Government borrowing was higher than expected at ÂŁ18bn last month, marking the highest August borrowing for five years, according to official figures.

The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said borrowing was ÂŁ3.5bn more than in August last year.

The figure was far more than the £12.8bn expected by most analysts and £5.5bn higher than forecast by the UK’s independent fiscal watchdog, the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR).

Sep 25, 2025 -- 2:48PM, Cider wrote:

I had no jabs and no covid.You had multiple jabs and covid twice.Thousands of people were jabbed and died.Almost like the jab was irrelevant. And it's like any other medical scenario, impacted by multiple uncontrollable variables (including luck)

As you never leave the house Ratman that is hardly a surprise

Presumably those who were sh1t scared of covid (inc. Crusty?) were not mixing with other people.

It would appear most on here, dont venture
Out at all, at least not Without their carers ??

Presumably those people who were sh1t scared of covid (inc. Crusty?) weren't mixing with others (aside from covid jab queues)

Ratman is an expert on ALL subjects, he has superpower which he calls the googlizer which makes him more clever than any so called ‘expert’

One assume Johnny (and others sh1t scared of covid) weren't mixing with strangers, even after being juiced up (aside from vax queues)

One assume Johnny (and others sh1t scared of covid) weren't mixing with strangers, even after being juiced up (aside from vax queues)

He’s certainly not short of an opinion, and
On any subject, it appears hé has it all covered

Does he know anything about horse racing??
As this is supposed to be a forum, related to
Horse racing??

I’ll ask him, Cidre, does your vast range of knowledge
Extend to horse racing ???

He has got it by the balls, Ratman knows EVERYTHING

Poncho the phuckwit.  Full of bile and hatred.  Has to insult all and sundry because they don’t toe his line.
What an inadequate individual.

oh fook me honcho arisen, just out of the scratcher, are we?
He has gone s8 into Insults. You ought to have some respect, I’m
Paying your Pip or Job seekers allowance. Have you taken mick thé miller
For his walk yet ??

Any good race readers here?!

Mr Pump at least told Europe straight, let’s not get possessive and think that it’s only our problem.

Oh and he also put us right with our view on Gaza as a state.

A 2 & 8 yeah!

"Thousands of people were jabbed and died "

therefore "jabs are irrelevant"

What a dumb argument.

Oh -and  I wasn't scared of Covid - I was round mates' houses watching footie on the tele with a few tinnies and back in the pub / live music / live football  as soon as things opened up.

I accepted I was going to get Covid , I just wanted to minimise my chances of serious illness (or death) when I did. 

I'm still waiting for your (after time) advice to the unvaccinated who did die ?   - " Don't worry about it buddy - you'd have died anyway !"

Johnny the pin-cushion -a ticking time-bomb

Trump was spot on.
Westerncountries have demolished their manufacturing industries while at the same time heavily investing in China (the sleeping giant of yesteryear) and the so called 3rd world India as they pollute for fun.
You can buy carbon credits which allows you to export your pollution to those countries you've invested training up their engineers over here to go work in modern facilities over there.
Our industries limped along using archaic equipment.

'Carbon credit' - an abstraction and total bowlocks.

... and we are going to hell as he says-on the back of a hand cart it seems.

China is the world leader in clean energy and committed to doing more so I’m afraid you are ill informed.

Who said covid jabs are 'irrelevant'.

They didn't come close to achieving what the 'experts' claimed. Whilst having many more potentially dangerous side effects.

Do you remember what happened just before Xmas 2022, and all the 'experts' (including Whitty) claimed we had to lock down again or else there would be a huge wave of deaths. I do. These are the same experts that sent infected people back into care homes.

The last data I saw, the proportion of people who died after two jabs covid positive was higher than those who hadn't been vaccinated (covid positive). They stopped publishing the weekly data.

There's no advice to people who die of illness, jabbed or otherwise. Bad luck, we're all mortal and will die of something.

The data ratman is based on people who had the jabs, predominantly old people who predominantly die more than most so this is the most stupid stat you have come up with yet.

And of course those who were most susceptible to early death were told to have jabs as well. FFS how stupid are you?

Welcome to hell.

more experts


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Used to complain about old planet earth becoming cooler,then hotter,now it’s called climate change

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Ratman is the ‘expert’ aftertimer.

The biggest con is letting a certain region of the world continue to have undue influence on the entire rest of the world due to oil. Imagine if there was the technology available to not rely as much on them  and then not at all as it improves. They can then carry on killing each other as much as they want without it influencing us. if only there was a way to do that (with the side effect of not polluting as much). Imagine if such a way existed and thenImagine if you've all been conned over oil/climate change to cover the above.........

The last data I saw, the proportion of people who died after two jabs covid positive was higher than those who hadn't been vaccinated (covid positive)

was this data adjusted for age? the very elderly are much more likely to have been vaccinated than the young.

Yes