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So we send one migrant back to France and they send us one to replace him. Am I stupid by asking how does that solve
the problem? There will still be an increase of 1 in a country that can't supply housing for it's own citizens.
the problem? There will still be an increase of 1 in a country that can't supply housing for it's own citizens.
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the one we get will be a legal one, replacing an illegal one.
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The Fogs will geta Lawyer in return for us getting a convicted rapist?
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Thousands in, one out. A splendid deterrent.
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not ideal but its a start if the can actually get it started, so much red tape ie appeals etc ,but still arriving by the boatload ,stop the attractions and the boats will stop Shirley or am in missing summit ?
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Only Starmer Brammer would have agreed to it,saddo.
Who do you think that will vote Labour? |
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A charity outfit called 'Bail for immigration detainees', which
advises dinghy types how to beat the one in one out deal, has been given 400k by comic relief. Now that's comedy. |
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It's also funded by the home office, ie the tax payer.
If you believe the commentary, we'll still get a plane load of asylum seekers from France tomorrow. On a flight that the UK taxpayer has paid for. Boat people now being flown in, ones that France have approved but the UK knows nothing about. |
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The ECHR needs blowing up
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It's nakedly only set up so the government can try and claim they are doing something. They think we are all idiots.
Obviously the inevitable outcome is now they will be floating in and flying in, with nobody going in the opposite direction. The handpicked chump that's gone back today is Indian, apparently  |
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There are probably over one hundred thousand illegal Indians currently residing in the UK. They are going to need a lot of planes.
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The UK is bound by the 1951 UN Refugee Convention, which grants the right to seek asylum to anyone who has a well-founded fear of persecution and has signed the convention.
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Calling the folks coming in via this scheme "legal" is a bit of a stretch imo. If they were genuinely legal they would have come here already by legal means without the need for this scheme. The bar to come here legally is so low that up to a million people migrate here every year. Yet the ones being selected by France to come here do not even meet those requirements.
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It doesn't give them the 'right' to break into a country illegally, brandy.
There's only one reason to travel thousands of miles, already safe, and hop in a flimsy boat with 80 other blokes and head out into the ocean. And it isn't a fear of being persecuted by Macron. |
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If you've got a pretty crappy life, where you'd have to work just hard to eat/live, the gamble of hopping in the boat with relative luxury at the other end is pretty appealing.
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Brits won't work, refuse to do menial jobs for little more than minimum wage.
We need to get refuse collectors, seasonal pickers and the like from somewhere to pay into the pension pot. Polish gave up and headed back home. |
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Of course, the other aspect is there's literally nothing to lose if making it to the border farce taxi. The very worst that can happen is that you get thousands of pounds to take a free flight home. No debt, no criminal record, having seen private medics and dentists, free bed and board and regular pocket money to gamble with.
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Well yes, the reason why domestic people opt for a life on welfare is that we make it very easy for them. Two elements of the same ideology, liberalism. We have to believe anything anyone claims, no matter how ludicrous. So someone having finished university claims they are too anxious to work and thought of self harming. Okay then, here's the cash and the car.
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Let it go Cider, you seem to think that you alone have the answers to everything that is wrong with the world, when you clearly do not.
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Nothing I think will change anything, will it. But I am not susceptible to gaslighting. And I say what I think, regardless of whether others like it or not. Usually I am proven right.
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I do not class living in a crowded hotel on £49 a week as living in luxury.
96% of immigrants in this country do so legally. You do not choose where you are born, but everyone should have a choice of where to live. |
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'everyone should have a choice of where to live.'
................. One of the most ridiculous things I've ever read on here, and that's saying something. |
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I do not class living in a crowded hotel on £49 a week as living in luxury.
Free heating, electricy, bed and board, laptop, phone, pocket money, laundry done, cleaning done, sky television, private doctors and dentists, free travel, free running water. Compared to living in Eritrea, for example. Are you for real. It is relative luxury. Offer that lifestyle to Brits, many would bite the state's hand off. No bills, no council tax, no commuting, no work, no responsibility, get up when you feel like it, go to bed when you feel like it. |
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Plus, of course, the option of working and paying no tax or ni.
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So because you are born in a country with little opportunity that is just tough luck?
While someone like yourself, born in a 1st world country can happily take advantage of that situation? No one chooses where they are born. |
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Far too much brandy, methinks.
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Don’t bother brandy, they’ll never get their heads around it.
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You can have open/no borders, or a weflare system. Obviously not both.
I wouldn't object to no welfare system. |
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There’s 1 billion people on the planet who live in poverty.so let’s try and squeeze them all in because they were unlucky to be born in a poor country.
The good news is we ll use your kids food first to feed them. Generations of Britons have worked hard,payed taxes,fought wars,built our system of housing ,roads,nhs etc etc. They did this for their kids and the next generation. So why should it be diluted,rationed to feed the world. Yes,we are lucky to be born in Britain,so why give up that luck,and it still wouldn’t solve the problem. It’s just tough and sad.but it’s a choice,your kids die,or their kids die.you choose. |
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Have to agree with cider compared to the life majority have lived they most definitely think they have won the lottery, every need is taken care of mostly single men living in hotels for free, receiving weekly allowances clothing top of range mobile devices free tv and WiFi.
While I accept its no child's fault the circumstances they are born into, it's each governments responsibility to care for its own citizens African governments have been receiving 100s of billions in aid for decades and only a select few truly benefitted both of our countries are fcked and when the money runs out what happens then |
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I was debating with a mate of mine who is Romanian but now lives and works in the UK. I sponsored his citizenship, now he has a British passport.
We don't agree politically, but we have reasonable debates. He stated how much he loves the EU, so I ask why exactly. He said when Romania joined, there was a huge tangible investment in the country, things suddenly started working, all the robbing gypsies disappeared. I asked him, where did he think the money come from, and where does he think the gypsies went. I think he then got it. |
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It's ludicrous, cuth. Doesn't really warrant a response. But this is what we have evolved to by 2025. High status virtue signalling, regardless of any sensibility or rationality. Far more important for those engaging in it to come across as nice, caring people.
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Yes the richer countries borrowing money to give to the poorer countries. Erm, making the citizens of richer countries poorer, including the UK.
And the criminals went to countries where there were much richer pickings (marks). Tremendous stuff. |
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Criminals, AKA human beings.
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Anyone would think all Rumanians are criminals, that is the sort of mind we are dealing with here. I’m not surprised this Rumanian (assuming he isn’t a figment of your imagination) doesn’t agree with you politically, there is probably not another person on Earth who believes this stuff.
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That was my Romanian friend, stating it happened. He didn't initially realise the real life outcomes of what he was stating. And no, not every Ro is a criminal. If you know any decent Ro's, they hate the gypsies from their own country more than anyone.
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Like I stated, if you can read, Crusty. I sponsored a Romanian national to become a citizen of the UK. Glady. He is a great addition to the country.
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So what, Mancs hate scousers, black people hate asians who hate black people, plenty of people hate each other for no good reason.
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