9/11

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Anyone actually visited the memorial sight there in NY?

Another fruit loop.

Can’t believe it’s that long ago, one of the most surreal events I’ve had in my life sitting seeing that dime on the news that morning.

If anyone goes to NY I recommend visiting the museum and the remembrance water features for both towers.

I went to a mate’s brothers that afternoon to pick up a computer he’d worked on for me.  He called me up stairs to see the telly and the second plane was just ploughing in.  All stunned I picked up the p.c. and set off home.
It used to be said - and it was very true - that we could all remember where we were and what we were doing when JFK was assassinated, and most of us could.
It works in another way too.
Twenty years later I had occasion to visit him again and met him outside washing his car.  His missus saw me, opened the window and invited me up for a cuppa.  The bold Eric shouted to her “Naw, dinnae - something terrible will happen”!  He associated me with the disaster, not where he had been.

I was in an office on Waterloo Road where we used to have a small tv in the corner with the news on...I remember a colleague saying "you all have to see this"...

I turned around to look at the tv and for the first time in my life thought i'd been drugged.

I can imagine your sentiments JV.
I regularly see reruns of varied NY situated tv shows, like Kojak for instance and so often the twins are pictured in scenes.  One M.I.B. film uses them in a long scene too.
Very poignant when you see them.  Weird feeling actually.
I watched it all live and some of the sights were extremely harrowing, later edited out of newsreels.
Today we have the horrors of Gaza.  Dreadful.

In the museum which I’d share photos from if I could suss posting they have the skeleton of the structure still visible with the graffiti from the firemen.

When you see the girders and concrete rising up like a distorted abstract it’s so difficult to imagine the tons of that that fell and seemed to disintegrate and disappear.

There’s a tiny church right next to where they were and how that survived I’ll never know.

They have these big black squares where the buildings stood with the names etched and water flowing into them. Looking at the names you’ll see Arabic ones too, it targeted everyone.

Not long ago I read the Book by Ron Jonson, The Men That Stare At Goats. It’s about the whacky things that the US military have done with experiments.
It’s hilarious and jaw dropping that some can actually be real!

They consulted these Martial Arts nuts with trying to learn Jedi mind tricks. One had been approached by a young (I think Lebanese man) who wanted to learn especially in close fighting, how to handle a crowd and knife fighting.

After he’d left his school the next time he heard his name was after 9/11. His flat was full of the paperwork he’d given him and details on planes.

The books worth reading.

Wow, Johnny. Must’ve been a surreal experience on the eleventh for you.

All good, thanks. Good to see you back again.

I’m not surprised. Would feel like a very near miss.

There’s a sing by the Band The Coup named (Head) of state.

The "coup" referred to in connection to Bush and Hussein is the 2003 US-led invasion of Iraq which toppled Saddam Hussein's regime. While there were earlier attempts and plans by the Bush administration to weaken or remove Saddam Hussein through covert means, such as President George H.W. Bush's suggestion for Iraqis to topple their own leader, the 2003 invasion was a large-scale military operation rather than a small-scale coup.

“Bush and Hussein together in bed
Giving H-E-A-D head
Y′all mother****s heard what we said
Billions made and millions dead

Work it out, set it up
Work it out, set it up

Bush and Hussein together in bed
Giving H-E-A-D head
Y′all mother****s heard what we said
Billions made and millions dead

In a land not very far away from here
George W. Bush was drinkin' beer
His daddy was head of the CIA
Now listen up close to what I say

The CIA worked for Standard Oil
And other companies to whom they're loyal
In a whole ′nother land by the name of Iran
The people got wise and took a stand

To the oil companies, ay ain′t **** funny?
This is our oil, our land, our money
CIA got mad and sent false info
To Iraq to help start the Iran/Iraq wo'

Pronounced war if I have to be proper
The CIA is the cops that′s why I hate the coppers
Saddam Hussein was their man out there
They told him to rule while keepin' people scared

Sayin′ any opposition to him, he must crush it
He gassed the Kurds, they gave him his budget
Said you gotta kick ass to protect our cash
Step out of line and feel our wrath

You know the time without lookin' at the little hand
Time came for them to cut out the middle man
Children maimed with no legs and ****
′Cause the "Bombs Over..."; you know the OutKast hit

And they really want you to hate him dead
When just the other day they made him head
War ain't about one land against the next
It's po′ people dyin so the rich cash checks


Bush and Hussein together in bed
Giving H-E-A-D head
Y'all mother****s heard what we said
Billions made and millions dead

Work it out, set it up
Work it out, set it up.”

A very clever story teller and not a believer in WOMD!

I can’t see Mart getting back on. Wouldn’t be surprised if he even wanted too.

Millions of Yanks (and some on here) still think it was an Inside Job

I Do Not

No room to mention it out of respect for the lost.

I don’t believe that it was an inside job as they couldn’t even hit the right targets in the Iraq war, lost more to friendly fire!

My cousin’s husband was in the tank division first up that went in for that and now can’t believe what he sees in America!

They wanted the oil that was the excuse to go get it.

There’s no conspiracy theories about the current war in Ukraine but it’s all the same. Chop up divide the riches….

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Planned by dirt,carried out by dirt…..

3000 murdered by dirt.

9/11: Mystery of the Fifth Plane

Investigating the untold story of United Flight 23, another plane that was due to depart JFK Airport at 9am on September 11th 2001, that flight attendants and the pilot believed was targeted to be used by hijackers

channel 5 later , Never heard of it