Publish

hung when come under pressure

Was unlucky to get massive bump at critical moment

Was given too much to do, run flattened out for me

Johnny G just overheard ordering some Mounjaro on his mobile.
Looks like he's going to start riding them himself, so disgruntled he is with these so-called jockeys.

Yep ride a shambles from start to finish. Not exactly a surprise though, you pay your money you take your chance with Buick onboard.

i actualy thought he was going to pull it  before they reached the straight

it looked like he was going to pull it up but was trying to get it to the back I think. The drift said a lot but didn't stink for me - clearly they had reservations about something. I do hope peeps already know that Gosden is about as a close as you can come modern day to Baron vs Serf in attitude towards punters

2.1 to 4.4 was some drift.
Made the running last time.
Dropped out stone last today and then rushed up to lead before unsurprisingly flattening out.
?????

Riddled with grade 3 riders….

The Irish individual will probably receive the P45 at the end of the season imv..

not hearing from many of his cheerleaders...funny that

Don't ask Gosden he'll remove you from his land if you're unfortunately slaving upon it, conviscate your tools so you can't work elsewhere, and then kick you and your family out on Christmas morning

I don’t call myself a cheerleader of him and agree with words of Frogger but there’s no doubting the is class.

* That he is class as a trainer and you’ll miss him when he’s gone.

At least he don’t wear those Oakley’s to hide his lying eyes!

O'Brien had a poke at him on here it's quite early
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1eYV_xOkH4&pp=ygUIcmFjaW5ndHbSBwkJsgkBhyohj...

Thanks Frogger - The goat man shared it yesterday, as said you never see him after they lose, at least Gosden doesn’t hide.

What trainer does care for punters?

Some a little more but they all have a main job to do. He's the archetypal Toff - when I see him cuddling up for rare interviews I just hope everybody knows it as well

I’m wary when I listen to any of them, but do like listening to him (toff or no toff) talk about tracks and draws etc… his knowledge is second to none on that score.

I don't disbelieve him about tracks and past runnings of races etc, yes he's engaging

For those knocking the ride you have to remember he was drawn outside of them all, would have burnt up energy to get to the front (then also been criticised for doing so) and is a young horse, only had two starts and they like to teach them things, like settle in behind in preparation for next year. It’s a big baby that met a good one.

Forgetting the merits of the ride I am more interested in the clairvoyants who decided to Lay Publish at all prices from 2.1 to 4.4

Opinion on certain riders can normally sway the punter imv….

formoftheace never slow to uptheirony

I would rather be a layer than a player on any runner with Colin Keane in the saddle….tbh.

William Buick rode it,you moron and.2.1 to 4.4 is not a sway,it is a Kon Tiki like drift

The layers got pretty lucky didn't they, it wasn't clairvoyance to know the horse would take it up inside the furlong and trade long odds on ir. Certainly no inside knowledge.

The Layers were extremely fortunate Cider but the ride was awful

No in my opinion, but regardless that would be correlation with the market, not causation.

Who knows on what grounds it was Layed but it takes considerable funds to get one from 2.1 to 4.4 trained by Gosden in a listed race

Outside of the bandit stuff, my view is that the market is reflective of stable confidence. Obviously it can snowball beyond context. These can be good betting opportunities. Yesterday there was obviously a lot of stable confidence about the winner as well.

Caprelo for example yesterday was an almighty bfex drifter, and watered the track in the race.

Just as an example anyway, one huge drifter I did bet was Royal Fixation in the Lowther. Walker was interviewed pre race on rtv and was pretty confident so a mystery why it was a heavy drifter throughout ebor week. Coincidentally, Buick again! I wouldn't have bet it at the earlier prices.

There was a similarity between the finish here and the Kalpana finish in that both her and Publish looked to be coming to swamp the eventual winners and ultimately were outstayed by horses with solid form and proven stamina at the respective trips. I would be reluctant to back either of the runners up to reverse the form even given the trainer of Kalpana said would come on for the race.

Even if Publish was ridden more prominently next time at this sort of trip against the winner I think the result would be the same and even more pronounced if they raced over further. Harsh imo to be critical of either jockey but proves Keane is top class to get from Kempton to Haydock and defy the two meeting rule to boot, according to Quixall tbf!!

If we are to believe the supposed bias that subsequently surfaced, Publish got the best of that, until he drifted in at the end. Just a horse still pretty green and learning the job, nothing to see here imo.

in hindsight SDS was 10 yds away and closest to the yet to be confirmed golden highway in the 1 m 6 race and drifted 40 yds across the track away from the golden highway to race near the winner valiency and got run out of it,not that i was on ew at 12,s or anything

Just passing opinion on Keane Cag tbh……my opinion of him and Will is much the same….tbh….capable nothing more…

I noticed you swiped the Toby thread cag then hid behind the sofa…

No idea what you are talking about Quixall?

Oh! That’s not the voice of a soldier ffs…..

The thread that gave Rico an @rgasm regarding tuna,500k Bla…

Ffs i thought you had b@lls…

Hunt it down cag….a million to find the disappeared tbh….

Got you Quixall, the one that had the evidence of his losing £5K bet and awaiting the answer from you regarding your misheard conversation when your sister was explaining being in a jeep riddled with bullets in Belfast?

Apart from not knowing how to delete a thread it does seem convenient that it has been taken down, any ideas Quixall?

Lol

I think you can answer that one Cag……

Not difficult, no women were out on patrol in Belfast in the 70s and we never used jeeps so you and amazingly Hibby with the same story was not just unlikely, it was impossible.

Unhappyhibby is on the missing list lately