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Anybody use or have had much success with the system in which you stake 80% of your bet on the Place market & 20% on the Win
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Never heard of it... I presume the horse's price must be North of 10s, for eg, for it to make sense?
Anyway, good luck with it if you try it, Windy...
Anyway, good luck with it if you try it, Windy...
Was it Nick Shiambouros who started the 80/20 idea when he worked for Timeform Radio?
mr miller. If the win portion makes a profit and the place portion makes a profit the %'s are
not relevant. If the win or the place do not make a profit then again the amounts bet are irrelevant.
not relevant. If the win or the place do not make a profit then again the amounts bet are irrelevant.
Maybe, jinxy
I should clarify to say that I have never heard of it as a system...
However, I often do similar bets but not to a strict 80-20, as I'm sure others also do
I should clarify to say that I have never heard of it as a system...
However, I often do similar bets but not to a strict 80-20, as I'm sure others also do
It is what I do - not that I would call it a system.
Unless your pick is very short priced, the place winnings cover (or more than cover) the win loss.
I would not claim any great success, and I only play for pocket money, but I have neither deposited nor withdrawn on here for years (at least 5, maybe nearer 10), so it works for me as a way of having a daily interest in racing without any actual outlay.
Unless your pick is very short priced, the place winnings cover (or more than cover) the win loss.
I would not claim any great success, and I only play for pocket money, but I have neither deposited nor withdrawn on here for years (at least 5, maybe nearer 10), so it works for me as a way of having a daily interest in racing without any actual outlay.
FWIW
From a mathematical point of view I would not adopt a fixed ratio because the relationship of the place odds to the win odds varies according to the low or high of the win price, the number of runners and the type of race.
Additionally, in some races there are some runners “out of the handicap” and/or at such high odds that suggest they are very unlikely to win (or be placed for that matter), which obviously affects the place prices of the other runners.
It is easy enough to check this out for yourself, and/or look at historic results on Timeform which shows BSP win and place odds.
Personally, I am a place only guy in what I consider to be the “right” races.
PS. You could consider “Dutching” the win and place market as it would probably sort out the variance I mention above.
From a mathematical point of view I would not adopt a fixed ratio because the relationship of the place odds to the win odds varies according to the low or high of the win price, the number of runners and the type of race.
Additionally, in some races there are some runners “out of the handicap” and/or at such high odds that suggest they are very unlikely to win (or be placed for that matter), which obviously affects the place prices of the other runners.
It is easy enough to check this out for yourself, and/or look at historic results on Timeform which shows BSP win and place odds.
Personally, I am a place only guy in what I consider to be the “right” races.
PS. You could consider “Dutching” the win and place market as it would probably sort out the variance I mention above.
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