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12 Aug 25 14:46
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Tax re-introduced will finally be the final nail in the coffin ...

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By:
howard
When: 12 Aug 25 14:51
Alex Bird said pro gambling was over in the 80's
By:
jimnast
When: 12 Aug 25 14:53
Alex was wrong as nowadays there’s more pro gamblers than soldiers in the Chinese army.
By:
stu
When: 12 Aug 25 14:56
I'd love to hear how they will work out what to tax...in detail....
By:
CagliariG
When: 12 Aug 25 14:58
There are no proposals to tax punters as far as I am aware?
By:
barstool
When: 12 Aug 25 15:10
A big, big tax hike is coming for the bookmakers. Perhaps much higher than the expected 25%.

They will like winners even less then. Expect higher over rounds with sp's tightened up even more at the lower end. No concessions and stricter limits on pay outs.

No value anymore with ew betting, they have squeezed the pips out of that. Just the exchanges left, mostly milked by higher charges on profitable accounts.

If the Pro's do go. This place will be shut down, it will be back to betting on course and the big wheel will have gone full circle.

Sad but predictable.
By:
stu
When: 12 Aug 25 15:13
Lot of leaps in there to become true for all that barstool.

Cross bridges, if/when it happens IMO.

One view I have/hope is that the worse the bookies become there could just be some move from punters to using exchanges, though that is also speculation.

But if it's speculation, then we may as well chose the optimistic...
By:
howard
When: 12 Aug 25 15:14
agree barstool but I can't see people being able to have 5 fig bets at the track at odds now available and no tax.
By:
formoftheace
When: 12 Aug 25 15:23
Myth….
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 12 Aug 25 15:38
CagliariG 12 Aug 25 14:58 
There are no proposals to tax punters as far as I am aware?

wont affect ewe mugsy..you have to show a prophet.
By:
CagliariG
When: 12 Aug 25 15:45
False Prophet like you shafter?
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 12 Aug 25 17:28
acc lifetime says utherwise tobymugs.
By:
jerseyboy
When: 12 Aug 25 17:47
Better get your  accounts opened in Jersey or Guernsey then, none of that sh t here.
By:
uptheirons
When: 12 Aug 25 17:50
A pointless thread with no substance of evidence to support it
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 12 Aug 25 17:54
Are losses tax deductable
By:
Regbutler
When: 12 Aug 25 17:54
Irons, that statement applies to 99% of threads on here...

Still all good fun, though
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 12 Aug 25 17:55
2 percent com here.....in Aussie courses 7 or 8 percent
By:
formoftheace
When: 12 Aug 25 18:27
50 
A pointless thread with no substance of evidence to support it

Past 12 months P & L ?

Plus expenses…..
By:
formoftheace
When: 12 Aug 25 18:28
Iron
By:
uptheirons
When: 12 Aug 25 18:36
I would be absolutely certain that your P&L will be two thirds of FA,AceformLaugh
By:
uptheirons
When: 12 Aug 25 18:39
But,of corse,that is not what the thread is about,is itLaugh
By:
formoftheace
When: 12 Aug 25 18:57
Well it is about pro gamblers which i replied it’s a myth…..imv…

No person on planet earth earns money to live and pay bills punting 100% on horse racing…..

Normally the so called will have another income…..stop living in cuckoo land ffs……ffs….Bla
By:
uptheirons
When: 12 Aug 25 19:04
I will grant you that it is getting harder.
The golden days have gone
By:
mitolo
When: 12 Aug 25 19:10
they sure have

no need to drink it any longer with the revival of the british brewing industry

aceform, you are wrong. incroyable!

they do exist although the margins are shrinking
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 12 Aug 25 19:13
One UK meet tonight.....360k matched
By:
uptheirons
When: 12 Aug 25 19:52
And,how much of that is actual bets freddie?
By:
comingupthehill
When: 12 Aug 25 20:06
Calvin said on the ak podcast,that it’s half of traded was bets.

I think that’s high.

But to move the odds,even 0.2 bets or lays must be placed,

At minimum it’s got to be 10% of traded is new money,

People must know,but it might fall under corporate privacy,
By:
uptheirons
When: 12 Aug 25 20:09
50%bis a gross exaggeration CUTHLaugh
By:
comingupthehill
When: 12 Aug 25 20:13
They asked him a question about a horse,someone said x thousands traded,he said,so about half of that is bets.,new money etc.

I thought that’s high.

But basically if 10 million traded
9.9 mill on back column,9.9 mill on lay column
Everyone sat around waiting for someone to put 20 quid on it,so they can trade position.
All trying to eek out 1 pence each profit out of that.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 12 Aug 25 22:51
formoftheace 12 Aug 25 18:57 
Well it is about pro gamblers which i replied it’s a myth…..imv…

No person on planet earth earns money to live and pay bills punting 100% on horse racing…..

one of my mates,used to work in my office,now from home..wins £2500 ish ev mth last few yrs..2k a week yrs ago in office..had about 6 losing weeks in 15yrs.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 12 Aug 25 22:52
No person on planet earth earns money to live and pay bills punting 100% on horse racing…..

i knew dozens who did until bout 5yrs ago.
By:
formoftheace
When: 13 Aug 25 08:28
I’ve yet to see a true reading,and until i will continue be a non believer….
By:
formoftheace
When: 13 Aug 25 08:34
Playing in running and trading is night and day from pre race selection and playing on course or online….

Lot of so called on social media at the track punting in cash…..

One doesn’t keep records and goes solely by  what’s in the pocket…..ffs

Remember the well known person on here had a two year loss on course…..backed and propped up by books and appearances……you know the one….
By:
uptheirons
When: 13 Aug 25 12:07
I am confused as to why you think your opinion on "Pro Punting"has any relevance Aceform as you have never been one.Still,it has never stopped you in the pastLaugh
By:
Whallop
When: 13 Aug 25 13:14
Dunno if you are right Len, but you do have a wonderful name.
By:
howard
When: 13 Aug 25 13:20
Not picking on him irons but he's like most punters " if I can't do it how can anyone else...unless they're cheating "
By:
formoftheace
When: 13 Aug 25 13:30
Lol
By:
formoftheace
When: 13 Aug 25 13:32
uptheirons 13 Aug 25 12:07 
I am confused as to why you think your opinion on "Pro Punting"has any relevance Aceform as you have never been one.Still,it has never stopped you in the past

I’ve said on many occasions iron….1993-1996…..you must keep up,you should have been aware with your other forum name….
By:
uptheirons
When: 13 Aug 25 13:41
The problem that you have Aceform is that your confidence is totally gone and when you do spot a good opportunity you are frightened to take it.
One glowing example was at Aintree this year when you stated that Jonbon should be 1/5 and it was trading at 1.67 on BF which I suggested should have been a maximum bet for you.
You didn't back it saying,"it's not my type of bet".
I need say no more.
Good luck
By:
formoftheace
When: 13 Aug 25 13:47
Harsh lol tbh…..

Ffs
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