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Gagging
06 Aug 25 17:03
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Some commentators have a remarkable memory for colours and silks but wtf do they say a horse has been given the office?  Has a horse ever had an office?  Shergar?  Mill Reef? Frankel?

Should be fined for abuse of our language along with 'back in the day' etc
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Report Cider August 6, 2025 5:11 PM BST
Deputy
Report swiftynifty August 6, 2025 6:36 PM BST
horses respond to the jockey's actions, they don't know if they are off or not on the day until.......

give (one) the office
obsolete slang To give one secret, private, or insider information or news.
Report mrcombustible August 6, 2025 7:23 PM BST
They also saw a horse has been given a peach
Report Cider August 6, 2025 7:26 PM BST
In the van. Transit, presumably.
Report swiftynifty August 6, 2025 7:42 PM BST
Ice cream
Report FOYLESWAR August 6, 2025 8:32 PM BST
in the catbird seat
Report leif August 6, 2025 8:49 PM BST
Why Idioms?

Interesting topic. Culturally diverse.
Old as time cuz.
Report Cider August 6, 2025 9:11 PM BST
They are ten a penny.
Report punchestown August 6, 2025 9:54 PM BST
In the van is short for vanguard which they say when a horse is up the front
"a group of people leading the way in new developments or ideas",think it has an army meaning about forward troops.
Report Gagging August 7, 2025 2:27 AM BST
I know what it is meant to mean - but can't understand the derivation! I think the commentator is saying the jock is now riding the finish, urging maximally but i don't see anything 'secretive' or 'private' about it!! Or what a 'deputy' or 'ice cream' have to do with anything!!  And 'catbird seat' - wtf - where's that??!
Thanks for the comments tho!
Report Ramruma August 7, 2025 4:02 AM BST
As punchestown says, in the van means up the front, from vanguard.

You sometimes here the humorous inverse, in the guard's van, meaning at the back, because the guard's van is (or was) at the back of a train.

The catbird seat made its way across the Atlantic from American commentaries. I can't remember if it was Cash Asmussen or the Breeders Cup which led to its overuse here for a few years. It meant near the front with seemingly plenty in hand, from what I recall. Where the Americans got it from, who knows?

mrcombustible's given a peach is just a shortened form of a peach of a ride, where "a peach of" is an old-fashioned way of saying top quality.

I'm not sure I've heard ice cream but would imagine it is a variant of cool, like sitting chilly.
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