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Gagging
06 Aug 25 17:03
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Some commentators have a remarkable memory for colours and silks but wtf do they say a horse has been given the office?  Has a horse ever had an office?  Shergar?  Mill Reef? Frankel?

Should be fined for abuse of our language along with 'back in the day' etc

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By:
Cider
When: 06 Aug 25 17:11
Deputy
By:
swiftynifty
When: 06 Aug 25 18:36
horses respond to the jockey's actions, they don't know if they are off or not on the day until.......

give (one) the office
obsolete slang To give one secret, private, or insider information or news.
By:
mrcombustible
When: 06 Aug 25 19:23
They also saw a horse has been given a peach
By:
Cider
When: 06 Aug 25 19:26
In the van. Transit, presumably.
By:
swiftynifty
When: 06 Aug 25 19:42
Ice cream
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 06 Aug 25 20:32
in the catbird seat
By:
leif
When: 06 Aug 25 20:49
Why Idioms?

Interesting topic. Culturally diverse.
Old as time cuz.
By:
Cider
When: 06 Aug 25 21:11
They are ten a penny.
By:
punchestown
When: 06 Aug 25 21:54
In the van is short for vanguard which they say when a horse is up the front
"a group of people leading the way in new developments or ideas",think it has an army meaning about forward troops.
By:
Gagging
When: 07 Aug 25 02:27
I know what it is meant to mean - but can't understand the derivation! I think the commentator is saying the jock is now riding the finish, urging maximally but i don't see anything 'secretive' or 'private' about it!! Or what a 'deputy' or 'ice cream' have to do with anything!!  And 'catbird seat' - wtf - where's that??!
Thanks for the comments tho!
By:
Ramruma
When: 07 Aug 25 04:02
As punchestown says, in the van means up the front, from vanguard.

You sometimes here the humorous inverse, in the guard's van, meaning at the back, because the guard's van is (or was) at the back of a train.

The catbird seat made its way across the Atlantic from American commentaries. I can't remember if it was Cash Asmussen or the Breeders Cup which led to its overuse here for a few years. It meant near the front with seemingly plenty in hand, from what I recall. Where the Americans got it from, who knows?

mrcombustible's given a peach is just a shortened form of a peach of a ride, where "a peach of" is an old-fashioned way of saying top quality.

I'm not sure I've heard ice cream but would imagine it is a variant of cool, like sitting chilly.
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