Recent Results (Last 2 Months):
60 bets placed
£396 total stakes
£595.49 returns
50.4% ROI
Consistent £3 E/W staking.
June-July Performance Metrics:
Strike Rate: 5.56% (1 winner from 18 bets)
Place Rate: 38.89% (7 places including 1 winner)
Profit Margin: 65.01%
ROI:65.01%
Monthly Profit: +£70.21p
July-August
Strike Rate: 9.1%(3 winners from 33 bets)
Place Rate: 36.4%(12 places from 33 bets)
Profit Margin: 225%
ROI:225%
Monthly Profit: £371.29p
My system focuses on identifying undervalued horses with odds of 20/1 or higher.
My System Focus:
Ground condition analysis (huge edge when horses are mispriced on unfamiliar surfaces)
Trainer form patterns (hot/cold yards)
Equipment changes (first-time headgear, removals)
Course specialists and jockey bookings
Handicap angles and targeted entries
I work full-time and do all my analysis late evenings after my lad is asleep. Time is limited, but I'm dedicated, and this is about building something for my family's future. Looking to go part-time with this in 3-4 years.
What I'm Looking For: Anyone who gets it - someone equally driven but maybe with a bigger bankroll or complementary skills. Need someone who understands that this is real work, done around real life, not some fantasy get-rich-quick scheme.
What I Offer:
Proven profitable methodology and developmental system
Detailed selection process and reasoning
Disciplined approach to bankroll management
Consistent documentation of all bets
Genuine commitment despite time constraints
Actually, will take action
Not looking for tipster followers or people with unrealistic expectations. Seek a genuine partnership with someone who understands the challenges.
Happy to share detailed results privately with genuinely interested parties.
Cheers
Was June / July 7 places from 18 bets?
U don't need anyone. If 50 to 500 is done so 500 to 5000 can be done
Unfortunately,this applies only to their FOBT's
The greatwood at Chel November, rang up, is there any restrictions on my account, no,
Lodged a 1er, Can I have 50 ew at 50s, 33, 40s was available, they were stand out at 50s,
Knocked it back, took me 3 weeks to get the 1er back out of account
Went on social media,we slaughtered Leon Boyle the rep, (****) got everyone I knew to
Have a pop. Went on for two weeks, blocked everyone, they are by far the worst bookie
Always last to price up
And no i didn’t get on either
You do need to up your stakes. You’ve got a big enough bank for £5ew.
Look you can either read a race or you can‘t
95% of punters can‘t read a race
I wonder what the percentage is of golf players not ok with giving out their handicaps or telling which London clubs they’ve played?!
Aug 4, 2025 -- 5:24PM, Delashay wrote:
Some guy on here had a system valued at £600,000 or something!
Lol
Aug 4, 2025 -- 12:56PM, top2rated wrote:
I have to say that WillM922's opening post, in terms of layout/presentation, is definitely amongst the best I've seen in all my years one here.It suggests to me that he is a well-educated individual.All the best to you, your lad & your family.
All the best to you, lad, as well. self-educated definitely haha! trying to just improve as much as I can, only at the start of this journey. Three years deep into this, it's not even scratching the surface, but I'm learning and developing as I go. tah mate (Y)
Aug 4, 2025 -- 1:10PM, Johnny The Guesser wrote:
ROI cannot continue at 50% - there will be a 'lucky' element in there.Read a few articles on variance. You think you have a winning approach. and you may have , but you just have got lucky to some degree. . Even bad punters can win over a 60 bet sample, and good punters can lose.
Aug 4, 2025 -- 1:37PM, uptheirons wrote:
I would concur that a ROI of 50% is impossible over a prolonged period
your right, lad. That's only over a small sample of two months from a system I have been working on manually. I'd be happy with an ROI of 22-27% in the long term.
Aug 4, 2025 -- 1:40PM, Delashay wrote:
Good luck with it Will, you’ll get lots of mick taking but profit is profit. Was June / July 7 places from 18 bets?
im not arsed me. can tell when people are serious and when they're not. i dont pick winners i care for profit. winners look great but profit is all i care about me and protecting me betting blance... its took me 8 months to build up to over £500 in my balance from small progressive stakes so why would i try and fix it if its not broken yet. yeah 7 places that included the winner. So 7 places from 18 bets and 1 winner from 18 bets. bigger priced places tho so helped to keep the proft ticking over.
But good luck to you lad
Aug 4, 2025 -- 2:07PM, freddiewilliams wrote:
Were are bets placed.U don't need anyone. If
If you're cherry picking the best price the evening before it's only a matter of time before you won't get £3 on.
But if these are placed at SP you might be on to something
Aug 4, 2025 -- 2:54PM, LoyalHoncho wrote:
“serious partner to scale up”.
Aug 4, 2025 -- 10:19PM, ponchoslament wrote:
From experience will, systems don’t workBut good luck to you lad
ive actually heard this mate. But there's always an exception to the rules. i belive through manually tracking and analysis im onto somthing but it wont last ... no system ever does, just tho la. all the best
Aug 4, 2025 -- 10:24PM, JML wrote:
Will-you haven't answered the most important question- where (and when) are you placing these bets?If you're cherry picking the best price the evening before it's only a matter of time before you won't get £3 on.But if these are placed at SP you might be on to something
skybet and bet365. yes night before. So deffo been losing value. Never used the betting exchange. Another reason why i made this thread to see if genuine, serious punters were on here to help and offer some advice/experience. all my bets have to be placed night befor mate as im on site for 7 in the morning.
Aug 4, 2025 -- 3:01PM, s.kenbo wrote:
He’s the first scouser I’ve ever seen who writes the way he talks! He can string a sentence together though.You do need to up your stakes. You’ve got a big enough bank for £5ew.
Haha, lad, we all do. Are you messing you? Doesn't everyone do that? £5 E/W... I'd need to take a look at how much percentage of my betting balance I would be staking per bet, so it stays within my safety margin. I'll deffo take that advice on board, tho my mate. tah for that buddy (Y)
Aug 4, 2025 -- 5:37PM, Delashay wrote:
Ahh Will the thread creator is grafting and fair play, my mistake thought that was the actual name of the system seller!
You do know I'm not selling a system, right?
I can only refer you to Johnny the Guesser's great post at 13.10.
That's exactly what's going to happen.
Aug 4, 2025 -- 4:38PM, ThePomp wrote:
Is video replay part of your analysis?
Of course, mate. loads of other factors that I take into account also. How can I see what a jockey didn't do if I don't watch the race replay?
Without reading all of the posts, would you not be better off just betting in the 3/4/5 place markets on here? Saving your win stakes which are making negligible profits? As opposed to the place stakes which are the profit makers .. Plus no bookie restrictions that will be forthcoming
I should have said that from his own words, it looks like he's aiming for big priced placed horses with the winners being a bonus, and the place aspect being more profitable
Aug 4, 2025 -- 10:49PM, Regbutler wrote:
I agree with t2r earlier, fair play to youWithout reading all of the posts, would you not be better off just betting in the 3/4/5 place markets on here? Saving your win stakes which are making negligible profits? As opposed to the place stakes which are the profit makers .. Plus no bookie restrictions that will be forthcoming
Yes, I think that would help, mate. I've never used Betfair before and I won't lie, I have no understanding of the site. That's something I need to look into. 3 years ago, I knew nothing about punting on horses, now I would say I could give most people a good run for their money la. Cheers, my mate. appreciate the helpful advice, I take all this onboard, my mate (Y)
Aug 4, 2025 -- 10:54PM, JML wrote:
4 winners from 51 at mostly 20/1 or over is very profitable.
tah mate. Yeah makes up for the bets that I lose on or don't place. It suits my style. I'm not about backing shorter-priced odds horses.
Aug 4, 2025 -- 11:01PM, Regbutler wrote:
Yeah, jml agree there, I didn't word it very wellI should have said that from his own words, it looks like he's aiming for big priced placed horses with the winners being a bonus, and the place aspect being more profitable
Correct lad. I've learnt quickly that there's a big difference between a winner at the wrong odds and an undervalued placed horse. I specifically focus on places. I do not care about winning, I just want long-term profit. If I can do that, then I'm doing something right,tah bud (Y)
Getting to know the place markets on here which he admits to not knowing could be helpful... And the win markets as well
Aug 4, 2025 -- 11:06PM, JML wrote:
Nothing wrong with his strategy--he's just overlooked or wasn't aware of the bookmakers rules-- thou shalt not win.
Expand on that, please, lad..? meaning the bookies always have the odds stacked in their favour?
Aug 4, 2025 -- 11:15PM, Regbutler wrote:
Don't want to speak on jml behalf but... I think he's suggesting that if you consistently win from them your accounts will be closed... Soft la
fair enough. I don't consistently win. I lose far more than I win, lad. I'll take that advice all onbaord tho bro. Calling me soft, lad?
No offence meant
Aug 4, 2025 -- 11:25PM, Regbutler wrote:
No, just my attempt at Scouse humour, as you seem to keep putting "lad" in every sentenceNo offence meant
Haha lad, I wouldn't be arsed anyway! online forum, not arsed what people say. However, you and JML have given me some decent advice to look into, which I appreciate, brother. I thought, by the way you said that, that you were from by ours? No offence taken, my mate.
Wonder why you aren’t place betting only? 4 winners from 51 bets means a lot of your stake is being wiped out. Of course those winners are likely to be good at the prices that you cite.
I’d asked what Reg was asking and it’s something that you can try. Split your stakes it doesn’t have to be equal. You’re likely to get bigger prices in the win market on here not to need 3£ on the win part.
And yes they make it as difficult as and offer under the odds. I dint recall years like this when we’ve had so many multiple joint favs for races, then half a point to the next etc…. all being squashed together tight.
WillM922 04 Aug 25 22:30
skybet and bet365. yes night before.
amazed you've lasted 8mths.
Ground condition analysis (huge edge when horses are mispriced on unfamiliar surfaces)
Trainer form patterns (hot/cold yards)
Equipment changes (first-time headgear, removals)
Course specialists and jockey bookings
Handicap angles and targeted entries
But these are all the most obvious angles which are frequently referred to in the analysis in the Racing Post and ATR website. On Sky and RTV these are always referred to pre-race. I don't see where the original thinking is in all this.
Only you can answer that .
Now if it's getting paid for your entertainment then maybe it can be justified, or a challenge to see how long you can beat the bookie ?
As for ever increasing bets with those two bookmakers - a total non starter. 'They' just won't let you build anything that costs them money.
Expect an email any time.....
Aug 4, 2025 -- 11:39PM, WillM922 wrote:
Aug 4, 2025 -- 11:25PM, Regbutler wrote:No, just my attempt at Scouse humour, as you seem to keep putting "lad" in every sentenceNo offence meantHaha lad, I wouldn't be arsed anyway! online forum, not arsed what people say. However, you and JML have given me some decent advice to look into, which I appreciate, brother. I thought, by the way you said that, that you were from by ours? No offence taken, my mate.
The "Exposing Bookmakers" account on twitter. Look it up.
Aug 5, 2025 -- 10:41AM, .Marksman. wrote:
My System Focus:Ground condition analysis (huge edge when horses are mispriced on unfamiliar surfaces)Trainer form patterns (hot/cold yards)Equipment changes (first-time headgear, removals)Course specialists and jockey bookingsHandicap angles and targeted entriesBut these are all the most obvious angles which are frequently referred to in the analysis in the Racing Post and ATR website.
Aug 5, 2025 -- 9:43AM, tanglefoot wrote:
My advice WillM922 is to keep your method as a interesting hobby,any attempt to scale up stakes will soon get u restricted if u are profitable long term with any online bookmaker.
ok, my mate, I'll deffo take that advice on board as well. I'm not expecting to change my life here, but I'd like to keep progressing so that I can add a little extra and ease working hours in the next few years. Even a small side income would be great. tah bud.
Aug 5, 2025 -- 10:18AM, Delashay wrote:
True Rico and answers this - meaning the bookies always have the odds stacked in their favour?
always one here, la. Meaning I have never used Betfair. It wasn't even on my radar. I do not understand exchanges, hence why I'm starting to learn about tha now. If you've made grand's already from your punting, fair play... if not give ya head a wobble you mushroom.
Aug 5, 2025 -- 12:55PM, Johnny The Guesser wrote:
Let's be brutally honest - is a ROI of 20% or even 50% on stakes of £6 really a good use of your time as a side hustle ?Only you can answer that . Now if it's getting paid for your entertainment then maybe it can be justified, or a challenge to see how long you can beat the bookie ?As for ever increasing bets with those two bookmakers
Aug 5, 2025 -- 10:21PM, uptheirons wrote:
Better bait required imo
Haha, correct lad. Genuninely, tho, if they have made serious money from punting, I am all ears? If not, we all have opinions's don't we....
pick your selection and go to the Betfair win market.
press on the blue number against your selection and move to the box on the right.
under odds place 500 and under stake place £1 or whatever you're happy with.
press "place bets" and then "take SP"
Then do the same for the top 3 market.
You've now got an each way bet at Betfair SP.
IF you're going to make money at this game you need to show a profit this way.
Aug 5, 2025 -- 10:54PM, Rico-Dangleflaps wrote:
the scousers throwing insults now...settle down la.
deffo from a small village, you lad. I'm interested to see your results and statistics.... would help getting you out of your mar's boxroom kid
Aug 5, 2025 -- 11:02PM, JML wrote:
This is what I would do Will.
You'll find that Rico's far too modest to share that information with anyone.
deffo from a small village, you lad. I'm interested to see your results and statistics....
won millions..5ft 11..14st 5lb..6.7" E wrecked.
Aug 5, 2025 -- 11:22PM, JML wrote:
I'm interested to see your results and statisticsYou'll find that Rico's far too modest to share that information with anyone.
Sounds about right.
Aug 5, 2025 -- 11:48PM, Rico-Dangleflaps wrote:
WillM922 05 Aug 25 23:09
ok la..
Dec 2, 2024 -- 5:15PM GMT, Rico-Dangleflaps uploaded a photo:
WillM922 05 Aug 25 23:09
deffo from a small village, you lad. I'm interested to see your results and statistics....
won millions..5ft 11..14st 5lb..6.7" E wrecked.
And able to re - point his own chimney stack!
the scousers throwing insults now...settle down la.
And he sounded a grounded individual!
Rico-Dangleflaps • August 5, 2025 11:48 PM BST
WillM922 05 Aug 25 23:09
deffo from a small village, you lad. I'm interested to see your results and statistics....
won millions..5ft 11..14st 5lb..6.7" E wrecked.
And able to re - point his own chimney stack!
