Professional Punter Chris Fawcett

Knows what he is talking about and is spot on about the Anti Gambling Brigade.
Whether his methods would work for many on here is debatable

That was good, he knows the score

i thought betting every race was the quickest way to the poor house ?

Not with a well thought out algorithm Tiger , it's the more races the better.

As I said,debatable whether it would work for most.
He certainly would not give away any edge he has and,why would he?

haven't looked at it yet  but seem to remember the guy from betting people vids. Seems to approach the game from a nerdy bordering savant stance if it's the same guy. I know nobody gives out their figures but with a guy like this you need 'em whereas someone like Veitch you know he knows the game inside out.

He's obviously right that the target is all gambling. But 'public health' is a trojan horse. Still, at least he is more informed than many of the people who pontificate about it on here.

As far as I can remember this guy was on the betting people video making out that he couldn’t get enough on and that he was giving people the privilege to win some money if they were clever enough to pay a subscription to him

As always,beware of Greeks bearing gifts,although not on this episode

Cider22 Jul 25 18:17Joined: 29 Aug 02 | Topic/replies: 62,787 | Blogger: Cider's blog
He's obviously right that the target is all gambling.

That's hardly an insightful observation on his part. It is obviously true for the hard-core of the anti-gambling lobby - that their target is all gambling because they see all gambling to be the same.

But once you concede yourself, that all gambling is the same, you haven't just conceded it to the hard core, you've also conceded (and made yourself a target) to all the moderate people (the majority) that might otherwise have been willing to listen objectively to some facts.

If you don't present the facts - that there are differences - you allow betting on real events (events that actually take place in the real world), to be tarnished by association with virtual events (addictive on-line games of chance), you've essentially scuppered your only defence before the discussion has even begun.

You can present whatever you want to if the recipient has no intentions of listening like the petition regarding Affordabilty Checks which the GC totally ignored.
Be in doubt that the Anti Gambling Despots will try to stop all forms regardless of any actual proof of the situation,The Management

Be in no doubt!

Like I stated, obviously right. Who would claim it's insightful? It's not. But nearly everyone in the public space on this topic trying to hold off the antis does not argue along the lines of freedom to choose and the freedom to lose. They pretend, or are gaslit into thinking that the people lobbying for these changes are doing it with the best of intentions. Absolutely not. There's no point arguing the minutia when they want to change our entire way of life. I know nothing of Chris but like he alluded to, it's salami slicing, playing the bigger picture of completely undermining our culture, which is a means to an end in of itself, and doesn't only apply to gambling.

I'm not actually arguing that anything tangible can be done about it to stop the tide, but unless people recognise which fight they are in, and why, they have absolutely no chance of progress.

As AI starts putting people out of jobs there will be more leisure time and THEY don’t want us sitting gambling all day. Apart from on shares or currency trading, that’s fine.

Cider22 Jul 25 21:02Joined: 29 Aug 02 | Topic/replies: 62,789 | Blogger: Cider's blog
I'm not actually arguing that anything tangible can be done about it to stop the tide

You should seriously consider applying for Chairmanship of the BHA.

I do love the "salami slicing" argument - but I find it hard to believe the best defence against it is to offer up your whole sausage on a plate (so to speak)!

Offer up the rotten bit on the end - and then fight for your life to save the palatable bit imo.

Thanks for the comments and taking the time to reply and watch guys.