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HoratioNelson
20 Jul 25 17:36
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...the difference between a "tip" and an "opinion"?

For me a "tip" is something that is kept under wraps and only known by those who should be privy to that information, eg horse (or other) has been waited with, a problem has been found so improvement is likely,been waiting for the ground, this has been the target etc.

An opinion is well, just that.

Would you rather receive a "strong tip" or a "strong opinion" from someone who's opionion you respect? 


We have all been asked "give us a tip for the National" if your friends know that you may gamble, but is it your answer a tip, or just an opinion?
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Report LoyalHoncho July 20, 2025 6:33 PM BST
Laugh
Report Delashay July 20, 2025 6:45 PM BST
Exactly -  Pvt. Henry Hook!  aka the shirker! Laugh
Report uptheirons July 20, 2025 6:49 PM BST
Empty vessels Dela.
Report uptheirons July 20, 2025 6:51 PM BST
Apologised to Hayden yet,Dela?
Report Delashay July 20, 2025 6:51 PM BST
At ease Pvt Hook! Laugh
Report Delashay July 21, 2025 2:02 PM BST
Delashay • July 21, 2025 9:49 AM BST
Do you not see any other potential dangers?

An open unanswered question on the Ante Post thread for those who discuss races. Impossible the public enemy and target for the multitudes that frequent this pool here will oblige without fear of losing face!
Report Delashay July 21, 2025 5:46 PM BST
You got a lot of North and South but caaan’t back it up!
Report Delashay July 21, 2025 5:54 PM BST
impossible123 • July 21, 2025 5:51 PM BST
Nothing I can envisage except pilot error or an act of nature eg his stall opening late, etc. All things being equal this race is his for the taking. The Juddmonte over 10f the extra distance is an unknown but I think he's up to it.

Thank you Impossible, value your opinion.


His reply re: The race talk on the AP forum and the JI @ York
Report Delashay July 24, 2025 6:26 PM BST
As said on a thread named after him! Laugh
Report Delashay July 24, 2025 6:27 PM BST
Avoids any big race discussion! Laugh.
Report uptheirons July 24, 2025 6:56 PM BST
As I pointed out,I have no wish to discuss anything with a halfwit like you Dela.
Do you ever have time to actually have a bet?
I will talk to any sensible poster so,I am afraid that's you and mics out.
Have a good rant keyboard warriorLaugh
Report Delashay July 24, 2025 7:01 PM BST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px3rkCUNM-0
Report Delashay July 24, 2025 7:02 PM BST
The shirker, we hope you’ll come good like the original Pvt Hook himself , but for now …. Keep ranting!
Report uptheirons July 24, 2025 7:05 PM BST
There is only one person ranting Dela and it certainly isn't me.
I have been polite, unlike you.
Perhaps you should try to paint a masterpiece to release your obvious stress?
Report brassneck July 25, 2025 10:27 AM BST
The secret is when someone gives you a tip for a horse you check the shoes they are wearing ,if they are wearing Gucci shoes.
back it to winGrin
Report Delashay July 25, 2025 10:49 AM BST
Great tip in itself! Laugh

Unfortunately there is NO room discussion from some, let alone a tip or talk of a horse on horse racing forum!! Laugh

It’s easier to bring down a thread after another outburst because they don’t agree and can’t answer simple questions! Laugh

Were all of the hostages released????

Why is there not the same sympathy for those innocents dying in Ukraine or call for a ceasefire? -  From scarf wearing flag waving hypocritical @rs*wipes?”


Very triggering questions that baffle and frighten that lot! Laugh
Report Blake@1658 July 25, 2025 11:23 AM BST
An opinion is a guess and a tip is a someone else's guess.  Laugh
Report lead on July 25, 2025 11:46 AM BST
One of the most successful bettors on this forum,stewartyb,doesn't give tips,only selections.
Report Smoky Hill July 25, 2025 12:16 PM BST
A fairly simple question to answer..

A tip implies insider information..
An opinion is a calculated guess.

However, some opinions can derive from a tip.
Report uptheirons July 25, 2025 4:02 PM BST
You would be evens to get your name right,Dela and talks on the Politics Forum not on here
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 9:15 AM BST
Seems like you forget that you brought down a thread (because of your uncouth vulgarity) that you were more than happy to leave many comments on the day before I’d entered.

My presence and stance stirred you to the state of uncontrollable rage and started you up yet again! Laugh

Always avoiding - whether it’s horse discussion or the questions posed above! Laugh
Report uptheirons July 26, 2025 9:58 AM BST
You are a liar Dela and you have proved that in the past as well when you claimed to have blocked me until you foolishly replied to the bait I put down for youLaugh
The thread that belonged on the Politics Forum was certainly not brought down by me and I did not rage at any time, unlike you.
You try to portray yourself as cultured with your supposed love of art but then post "Kiss my Kipper" when losing a debate.How very adult of you.
You insulted Hayden and wasn't man enough to apologise.
I would be surprised if you find the time to ever have a bet on here.
Report HoratioNelson July 26, 2025 9:59 AM BST
Smoky Hill 25 Jul 25 12:16 
A fairly simple question to answer..

A tip implies insider information..
An opinion is a calculated guess.

However, some opinions can derive from a tip.


Agree Smoky....but then why are shall we describe them as sport columnists or even journalists often referred to as tipsters? Definitely blurred lines for me.
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 10:08 AM BST
I don’t want any engagement with you on any level, you’re incapable as well as a nasty person who’s lacking and angry for it.
Report uptheirons July 26, 2025 10:39 AM BST
I am heartbroken Dela.Laugh
I would point out that I haven't demonstrated anger on here  for some time.
I am quite happy to ridicule half wits like yourself as it is more effective
Report Smoky Hill July 26, 2025 11:35 AM BST
Oh get a room you two - Holiday Inn?

Horatio Nelson,
yes the question to ask is when is a tipster also a punter?  Tom Segal once said, in his own words ''I'm a tipster, not a punter'', so if you bet on his opinions, which is what they are, then it's with your own money, not his, apparently.  Media are fond of highlighting the nice winners from these 'tipsters', but not when they lose.  Segal made a bit of a fool of himself over Falakeyah at Ascot for instance, he was all over it like a rash, but his opinion on that one soon got buried with the dismal run.
Unless they get insider information, their 'tips' are nothing but opinions.  You then have to trust that opinion, or not.

There is only one instance I can recall where a t.v pundit gave a direct 'tip' to the viewer.  This was way  back in 1999 at Goodwood on the old Racing Channel, none other than Geoff Lester who was holding the microphone [tipster - Man on the Spot - Sporting Life] in those days.  He tipped a filly called Kashra, seemingly with some insider info.  It won at 7-1.  I know of no other pundit since who's done that.
Report HoratioNelson July 26, 2025 11:44 AM BST
Unless they get insider information, their 'tips' are nothing but opinions.  You then have to trust that opinion, or not.

You have just nailed it for me...Couldn't agree more Wink
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 11:51 AM BST
The thread was here Smoky long before your comment. I engaged gave my opinion. You don’t like it, sling it too.
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 11:59 AM BST
The only person on this forum who’s called him out for being abusive is Loyal Honcho, the rest just turn a blind eye. That means you have NO right to comment and can keep your sarcasm to yourself, because you’re as weak as the others who allow the bully to keep on.
Report Smoky Hill July 26, 2025 12:03 PM BST
Horatio, what do you think of Tipping Tom?  He's a recent innovation and I think a good one, but he's employed for the purpose, not a presenter.  Presumably he gets inside info.
Report HoratioNelson July 26, 2025 12:29 PM BST
Must say smokey as an ex avid watcher of the Morning Line I haven't been the same with the Opening Show.

I hate to be negative about things but I found it so watered down on occasions it was like a cooking programme demonstrating how to boil an egg.

I have heard of Tipping Tom when watching an episode recently but payed it little notice, I don't often pay much attention to the presenters unless they really come across as very strong on one then i'll add it into the mix.

When it comes to tips I have paid far more attention to friends who I rate rather than columnists.

I am fortunate to know what I would class as a couple of very good judges who throw any "info" they get my way. Some is info, some just an opinion.

If Tipping Tom is genuine and it gives people interest on a Saturday morning to have a flutter personally I'm all for it Wink
Report uptheirons July 26, 2025 12:32 PM BST
Dela has been battered more times than Harry Ramsdens CodLaugh
Getting back to the OP,I have no difficulty with Tipsters as I don't take a blind bit of notice.
Each to their own
Report LoyalHoncho July 26, 2025 1:13 PM BST
No disrespect the fellow HN but Ken Pitterson ( I think that’s his name, if wrong I apologise ) is hardly compelling.  Chapman is rarely so but at least gets stuck into matters of importance.  Oliver is a skilled and experienced anchor.
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 1:39 PM BST
Proofs in the pudding, see how long Tom is around for. As for Ken he never asked to be plonked in front of the camera.
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 1:44 PM BST
Feel free to speak up Smoky.
Report HoratioNelson July 26, 2025 1:59 PM BST
I feel for Ken a little but I suppose if that is going to be your line of "expertise" then you will need to bring more to the table than "the fav looks well, the 2nd fav looks well, and the 3rd in could well improve ".....

If Ken genuinely had an edge he would be both revered and silent.
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 2:00 PM BST
To think that you think you’re funny or of interest! You’ve never won a battle, been roasted over and over and are a complete bore.
As said you’d not have the balls to call people you don’t know out in the street,  “pricko” as you do to their faces.

Go march with your scarf wearing bleeding hearts and your fellow champagne socialists!
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 2:02 PM BST
There’s only so much Ken can say Horatio, the trainers tell you more when they reveal body weights. How much condition their runner has put on over the season.

Remember City of Troy, the one that showed at the Guineas was unrecognisable to the Colt on show at Epsom?
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 2:03 PM BST
Hannon went into the SJP saying Toronado had put on 30 or so KG’s
Report HoratioNelson July 26, 2025 2:03 PM BST
I know many can't have a bar of Chapman but at least he is not another fence sitting gravy train riding middle of the road don't want to upset anyone type.

I'd rather any opinion than no opinion. I quite like him.

Oli seems quite self depreciating but that could just be on the tele. I have wanted to take to Rishi but he has too many fingers in too many pies to be taken seriously.
No qualms with the ladies, all knowledgeable and experienced in all aspects of he game collectively.

Still can't believe Leona left me for that rugby playing idiot CrazyLaugh
Report HoratioNelson July 26, 2025 2:05 PM BST
Totally agree Dela
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 2:08 PM BST
Laugh How could you put up with that voice!?

Chapman is best when he’s being funny without trying to be. Gold when AOB called him Harry or something!Laugh

Give me a character any day of the week over the old school master types.

I love the interviews between Chapman and Gosden! They play the game.
Report HoratioNelson July 26, 2025 2:13 PM BST
I'd have put up with the voice in exchange for shall we say, other things Laugh
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 2:14 PM BST
When looking at horses it’s important to go back to your point, it’s someone’s opinion.

Francesca has never said she likes the look of Calandgan, they seem obsessed with big horses. They like a type. Before the race in the paddock she didn’t the filly that gave Venetian Sun a close run.

The last two fillies that Weld brought over for the Aga were tiny, nothing to look at.

So in this case I believe it best to trust your own judgment and form your own independent opinion.
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 2:15 PM BST
Laugh
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 2:17 PM BST
I’m waiting for Francesca to say (as she does like she’s talking to her girl friends) , “Oooh he’s a real big boy!” Laugh
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 5:26 PM BST
Today Brugel looked big to me, I only saw him briefly in the parade not pre parade. I’d love to know what his weights were for Epsom and today?

No mention of biggie from Francesca but she did say that Kaplana was a , “Big strong girl!”

I’ll pass that over not my thang big ‘uns, cost a fortune in perfume!
Report uptheirons July 26, 2025 5:30 PM BST
A Paddock judgement off the TV from the Culture Vulture Dela (Kiss my Kipper) DimwitLaugh
Report mitolo July 26, 2025 5:35 PM BST
if you were listening to baldy dixon today youd have done well despite a horrible card at pickled pork

hes one to take note of and those who dismiss all of them are daft to do so. hes worth the rtv subscription alone
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 5:36 PM BST
Trust Pvt Hook to SHOW UP AFTER the race!

The donation of the fat wack was for you, we all know you hit hard times on the **** front years  ago! Laugh
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 5:36 PM BST
And you M you can stir his porridge or fletch it after.
Report uptheirons July 26, 2025 5:37 PM BST
Correct mitolo as he knows what he is talking about,
Whereas Dela Dimwit can judge a horse from the TV
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 5:38 PM BST
*Feltch it but we know you’re familiar with that term you and your pegging chum! Laugh
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 5:39 PM BST
They say better late than never but you really are a bore, never sharing your wealth of knowledge before a race! Laugh
Report uptheirons July 26, 2025 5:40 PM BST
Not that I would expect Dela to know but it is a fact that TV puts weight on.
I have already stated that I would never debate with a halfwit liar like you  Dela
Report mitolo July 26, 2025 5:41 PM BST
would you like a dollop of jam in your porridge ironman?
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 5:47 PM BST
Like busses and as slow as! Laugh
Report uptheirons July 26, 2025 5:51 PM BST
A Paddock Judgement from the TV shows that when I called you a halfwit was wrong Dela.Laugh.
It was far too charitable
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 5:53 PM BST
Who’s the giver and who’s the taker tonight out of you two? Laugh
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 5:53 PM BST
Upthe….
Report uptheirons July 26, 2025 5:55 PM BST
Dear God.
You expect to be taken seriously and post childlike insults like that?
Report uptheirons July 26, 2025 5:57 PM BST
Cultured LaughLaughLaugh
Report CagliariG July 26, 2025 5:57 PM BST
Delilah what aspirations do you have when you grow up, textured ceilings perhaps or street art?
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 5:57 PM BST
Enjoy your evening and show up before a race with comments next time.

I’m going to bang a 27 year old now who thinks I’m 36! Laugh

We can’t be blessed as you know each morning when looking in the mirror and downwards!

But don’t hate Pvt Hook!Laugh
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 5:58 PM BST
Or you long nose! Watch it don’t get caught in your line when giving it the king chuck sea fishing! Laugh
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 5:59 PM BST
*long chuck
Report uptheirons July 26, 2025 5:59 PM BST
I hope that the 27 YO Male is left happy Laugh
Report CagliariG July 26, 2025 6:00 PM BST
I hope he enjoys you Delilah, more than the Forum does!!
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 6:00 PM BST
Enjoy your threesome! More the merrier at those sort of parties! Laugh
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 6:00 PM BST
Bath house boys! Laugh
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 6:01 PM BST
Like a Turkish? Laugh
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 6:02 PM BST
27 Blonde 5’5” an ass so tight it sits in the palm of my hand!Laugh They are big though Devil
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 6:03 PM BST
Apologies HN for this in your thread.
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 6:04 PM BST
Delashay • July 26, 2025 5:26 PM BST
Today Brugel looked big to me, I only saw him briefly in the parade not pre parade. I’d love to know what his weights were for Epsom and today?

Does anyone else think the same?

I don’t have RTV so no pre parade pictures. I saw no sign of rib in the parade however.
Report uptheirons July 26, 2025 6:05 PM BST
What an utter Walter Mitty you are Dela and you wonder why I will not debate about a race with you.
You belong in a Secure Unit
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 6:05 PM BST
Delashay • July 26, 2025 2:14 PM BST
When looking at horses it’s important to go back to your point, it’s someone’s opinion.

Francesca has never said she likes the look of Calandgan, they seem obsessed with big horses. They like a type. Before the race in the paddock she didn’t the filly that gave Venetian Sun a close run.

The last two fillies that Weld brought over for the Aga were tiny, nothing to look at.

So in this case I believe it best to trust your own judgment and form your own independent opinion.

Tumbleweed again after this.
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 6:08 PM BST
Delashay • July 26, 2025 2:00 PM BST
To think that you think you’re funny or of interest! You’ve never won a battle, been roasted over and over and are a complete bore.
As said you’d not have the balls to call people you don’t know out in the street,  “pricko” as you do to their faces


Same tumbleweed as that, I’m guessing the drink gives it courage to rant at this time of night!

Not so sharp in the morning! Laugh

Enjoy downing your poison whilst she’s going down on me!Devil
Report uptheirons July 26, 2025 6:10 PM BST
27 YO blonde FFSLaugh
Goodnight Mr No life
Report HoratioNelson July 26, 2025 6:11 PM BST
No trouble Dela....You and UP The Irons fill your boots. All this "your thread thing" never agreed with me....crack on
Report mitolo July 26, 2025 6:14 PM BST
nelson turning a blind eye
Report uptheirons July 26, 2025 6:16 PM BST
Any semblance of credibility that Dela had has vanished
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 6:25 PM BST
Nor me
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 6:26 PM BST
I’m going to pound the ****! Laugh
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 6:26 PM BST
Peusey
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 6:28 PM BST
Next up a bird  that’s studying English in Durham! Devil these birds love a bit of salt ‘n pepper! Laugh
Report uptheirons July 26, 2025 6:30 PM BST
Only in your fevered,pitiful imagination, Dela "Kiss my Kipper" DimwitLaugh
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 6:31 PM BST
Did you think Brugel looked fat?
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 6:33 PM BST
And see why US punters should be given such details?

It’s not difficult to do, you get weighed as you enter the track. That can be shared. It’s done in Hong Kong and we are behind here not having such details available.

It’s the greatest fiddle going! Running horses that are too fit or have lost too much due to travel!
Report Delashay July 26, 2025 6:34 PM BST
Do you remember the old joke about Nelson’s Column?
Report uptheirons July 26, 2025 6:35 PM BST
I was not there and therefore couldn't give a valid judgement.
Unlike you,DimwitLaugh
Report uptheirons July 26, 2025 6:42 PM BST
I will impart one piece of wisdom to you Dela.
To know when a horse is fit in the Paddock,you would first need to know what it was like when it was fit.
IHTH
Report brandyontherocks July 27, 2025 9:10 AM BST
Wow!!!!
Report uptheirons July 27, 2025 9:45 AM BST
Delashay • July 26, 2025 5:57 PM BST
Enjoy your evening and show up before a race with comments next time.

I’m going to bang a 27 year old now who thinks I’m 36! Laugh

We can’t be blessed as you know each morning when looking in the mirror and downwards!

But don’t hate Pvt Hook!Laugh

Of course,we all believe you DelaLaughLaugh
An adolescent post from a Walter Mitty person
Report Delashay July 27, 2025 9:46 AM BST
Not a bad call from Moi on the AP thread. Some are suited to Ante Post as they can look ahead, whereas others can’t see beyond breakfast or at a push lunch! Laugh


Delashay • April 21, 2025 11:30 AM BST
Goliath’s run may have been a sighter for Graffard who’s Calandagan would be suited to the long home straight in Tokyo as it’d give him the time needed for his long acceleration. The prep is key to his chances, perhaps ship in earlier and recover his condition.


Published on 26 July 2025

He's in the Juddmonte International, so why not go there?" he added. "I wouldn't mind coming back in trip and then maybe going to Japan at the end of the season, but I have to discuss it with the Aga Khan team and Princess Zahra."
Report uptheirons July 27, 2025 10:45 AM BST
The usual attempt at deflection when Dela has disgraced himself again.
At least you have finally learned to spell Ante Post correctly.
Your facade of being cultured has been well and truly lost after posting "Kiss my Kipper" and resorting to homophobic insults.
Report uptheirons July 27, 2025 10:58 AM BST
Delashay • July 26, 2025 5:53 PM BST
Who’s the giver and who’s the taker tonight out of you two? Laugh
Report uptheirons July 27, 2025 8:15 PM BST
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