Could some kind person post it please.
Jul 15, 2025 -- 12:55PM, RoyalAcademy wrote:
I'll give Murphy one thing: the pile-on is just another way to lynch someone without mercy. He has been found guilty, paid the price and been censured by the industry watchdog. Romans now baying for more blood in the Colosseum.
Murphy is a wrong 'un and the idea that we aren't allowed to criticise his criminality because he has been 'punished' or because its 'none of our business' is nonsense. Firstly, he hasn't been punished - he's got away with it. Now, its not his fault that our criminal justice system is so weak that you can drink drive, crash your car into a tree, refuse a breathalyser test and not get a custodial sentence but I think it explains why so many people are angry because his 'punishment' does NOT fit the crime. Secondly, it IS our business because he was drunk while driving on a PUBLIC ROAD and therefore endangering the safety not only of his passenger but every other motorist on that road and every cyclist and every pedestrian he flew past. He wasn't getting drunk at home in front of the telly, he was in a public space endangering those around him. It is absolutely our business.
Murphy is a your typical sneaky addict; he manipulates those around him. In his case the ONLY reason he is nice with the media is so he gets an easy time of it from the racing world when he ****-up. I've not seen the Chapman interview but if past evidence is anything to by I am not the least bit surprised that he gave Murphy an easy time of it because he too has been duped by Murphy.
Worryingly for Murphy the Racing Post and that is precisely because of the potential implications of his actions on this occasion i.e. endangering the safety of others.
Jul 15, 2025 -- 12:06PM, Cider wrote:
It really has nothing to do with horse racing. Murphy could be a complete wrong 'un, treat people badly and the rest of it. If that was so, it has little to do with racing either.Clearly the sport needs to make sure he's not under the influence when riding racehorses. That is their business. Many of us will make errors of judgement. Some is us may have even deliberately opted to do something utterly stupid and place others at risk. But it's not in the national news. Not making excuses for him at all, he should pay the penalty for his criminality as adjudged by the legal system. A witch hunt does strike me as double jeopardy, some racing media types desperate for him to face a sanction in the sport as well. Which is not really connected to the offence. Feels wrong to me. He would be better off keeping his counsel though.
This was not 'an error of judgement'. An error of judgement is if you take a wrong turn on the road or fail to give way at a junction or something. This was drink driving. Thousands of people have been killed due to drunk driving over the years. Oh, and you are making excuses - stop it.
Get over it
Jul 15, 2025 -- 6:39PM, uptheirons wrote:
Perhaps he should be flogged and locked up in case he re-offends Coneygree
Do you think his punishment fits the crime?
I don't know all the circumstance around why he decided to do what he did that night. Nor do you. My point was that most of have chosen to do something stupid and/or risky at some point in our lives.
How am I making excuses, it's right he should have got punished.
Jul 15, 2025 -- 6:45PM, uptheirons wrote:
He has been punished Coneygree(although not to your satisfaction).Get over it
At least I have the balls to call out the pathetic excuses that people are making for Murphy's gross actions and his lenient treatment by the courts! Oh and by the way, its not me that has to 'get over it' its your mate Murphy. Are you sure he won't make another 'mistake'?
The Labour government are moving further away from jailing people.
Elliott Leonard-Diss, from Street End Lane, Heathfield, tested positive for cocaine and was more than twice over the legal limit of alcohol.
On the morning of May 28, Sussex police were called to a three-car collision on the A22 Uckfield bypass.
Leonard-Diss had attempted to undertake traffic by using a layby, but lost control and ended up in a bush.
At Lewes Crown Court he was disqualified from driving for three years and was sentenced to a 14-month suspended prison sentence.
plenty of examples
Jul 15, 2025 -- 6:53PM, uptheirons wrote:
It is not for me or you to judge a sentence passed by a Court Coneygree as we were not in full possession of the facts but don't let that stop you ranting on
Your being deliberately ignorant. We know all the facts and it is perfectly reasonable for any citizen to judge whether a punishment fits the crime, that is how the criminal justice system evolves; it tends to reflect changes in public attitudes. A good example of this is, funnily enough, drink driving. Once upon a time it was kind of accepted but due to the horrific number of people being killed on our roads the publics attitude changed and the law was tightened up (literally, with seat belts!).
You just avoiding answering the question because you know what the answer is and your too insecure about your own opinions to admit you might be wrong!
McPartlin pleaded guilty to an offence of driving with excess alcohol ('drink driving'), that resulted from a road traffic accident which occurred on 18th March 2018.
His breath alcohol reading was 75 microgrammes of alcohol in 100 millilitres of breath - the legal limit is 35 microgrammes per 100 millilitres of breath. So, a little over twice the legal limit.
What was the sentence?
McPartlin was fined the sum of £86,000 and disqualified from driving for a period of 20 months, which will be reduced to 15 months if he completes a rehabilitation course.
Jul 15, 2025 -- 7:11PM, Cider wrote:
A dangerous driver who caused a drunk and drug driving collision has been given a suspended sentence and has been disqualified from driving.Elliott Leonard-Diss, from Street End Lane, Heathfield, tested positive for cocaine and was more than twice over the legal limit of alcohol.On the morning of May 28, Sussex police were called to a three-car collision on the A22 Uckfield bypass.Leonard-Diss had attempted to undertake traffic by using a layby, but lost control and ended up in a bush.At Lewes Crown Court he was disqualified from driving for three years and was sentenced to a 14-month suspended prison sentence.plenty of examples
Oh, I totally agree with you; the CJS is far too lenient and as I said above I don't blame Murphy for his sentence. There are two prisons (one male, one female) within three miles of where I live and they want to build a third. I'm all for it!
One last thing, the problem I have with Murphy is his disregard for the safety of others and the fact that he has not learned from his previous mistakes and lied to us racing fans about him being sober. I just don't trust him and I think if he thinks he can get away with it this will happen again with perhaps far more serious consequences. I don't think we in racing should be making anything that looks like an excuse for his actions and I do think a custodial sentence in this case would have been fair. Surely, it can't be just 'business as usual'? Where is the deterrent? But I totally get what your saying about lenient sentencing.
Great chat!
Mr Murphy has form; form usually controls the future. Self-pity is the norm for an alcoholic, and is a prelude to another alcoholic episode.
I hope no one here is at the receiving end of Mr Murphy's next predictable alcoholic episode. Thank heavens, I do not live anywhere near Newmarket.
ok Buick has ridden significantly less but apart from him rest are about 20+ behind even at this relatively early stage
he has severe restrictions in place regarding testing etc so lets see what happens....
He has been found guilty by the BF Forum and must be presumed guilty before committing a further offence
But, this time Mr Murphy chose to exercise his "entitlement" and drove on a public road when intoxicated which was a major transgression of public safety and the law governing drinking and driving.
The arrogance of Mr Murphy in "that" interview with Mr Chapman was clear to all. This is a clear sign of denial and irresponsibility. Another alcoholic incident in private or in public is merely a matter of time for Mr Murphy.
A positive breath test of alcohol after inflicting injury to another individual in public or a road user might be too late next time. The signs of another alcoholic episode by Mr Murphy is evidently clear to those who've experienced the negative consequences of drinking and driving.
BHA, you're next on Mr Murphy's list of blame.
We know all the facts and it is perfectly reasonable for any citizen to judge whether a punishment fits the crime, that is how the criminal justice system evolves; it tends to reflect changes in public attitudes. A good example of this is, funnily enough, drink driving.
Coneygree1971, do you think there will be owners now refusing to have Murphy ride for them with the stigma of him being a convicted drink driver?
He still seems to be riding for many yards, and the only horse I've heard that he was apparently jocked-off, and this was after the story of the crash first broke, was Cosmic Year at the Guineas meeting, though he got back on that one in Ireland. He also then rode the Lockinge winner and Jonquil in France for Juddmonte, but despite that Lockinge success, he's been overlooked for the Field Of Gold ride in Keane's absence.
Jul 15, 2025 -- 12:06PM, MJK wrote:
Each time Murphy has been
Each time Murphy has been in trouble I've gone back to a conversation I had in Leopardstown with two guys who happened to be from the same town Murphy is from. I put it to them that they must be delighted to see him (at the time) look like becoming a top jockey. No, it was the total opposite from them. As far as they were concerned he was nothing but trouble and the locals were glad to see the back of him. But he seemed a nice lad when interviewed I said. The exact answer I got to that was 'you'll see. It's all just an act'. Now everyone can change but it still plants seeds of doubt in the mind when you see his carry on.
Never added my comment.
Thanks for sharing MJK, you often hear stories like this and wonder, in this case - his past actions add meat to the stew.
Has anyone ever taken on the press and won? In any sport?
No Loyal none that I can remember.
Jul 15, 2025 -- 12:55PM, RoyalAcademy wrote:
I'll give Murphy one thing: the pile-on is just another way to lynch someone without mercy. He has been found guilty, paid the price and been censured by the industry watchdog. Romans now baying for more blood in the Colosseum.
Murphy is a wrong 'un and the idea that we aren't allowed to criticise his criminality because he has been 'punished' or because its 'none of our business' is nonsense. Firstly, he hasn't been punished - he's got away with it. Now, its not his fault that our criminal justice system is so weak that you can drink drive, crash your car into a tree, refuse a breathalyser test and not get a custodial sentence but I think it explains why so many people are angry because his 'punishment' does NOT fit the crime. Secondly, it IS our business because he was drunk while driving on a PUBLIC ROAD and therefore endangering the safety not only of his passenger but every other motorist on that road and every cyclist and every pedestrian he flew past. He wasn't getting drunk at home in front of the telly, he was in a public space endangering those around him. It is absolutely our business.
Murphy is a your typical sneaky addict; he manipulates those around him
You’re right and said it how it is.
Jul 16, 2025 -- 5:28PM, duffy wrote:
Irons is just playing with you, if he was really serios he would have brought out the big gun and called honcho a whippet botherer by now
funny I know you’re serious
The intercity link broke down and came to a halt revealing his dastardly deed!
Other that I read in the Metro was about an Italian Farmer who had taken his prize winning chicken to a secluded spot by a cliff.
Just by chance, a large rock fell as he was giving his prize lithe attention he thought that was wanted.
Both bodies were found splattered!
So all I’m saying is …. Location, Location
A few are starting to think that you’re Trapman himself because of your constant protection of Murphy the wrong ‘Un.
If he re-offends again they should up stumps
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I mean I can’t even read who I’m having this convo with! And yet you reply!
Take it easy dude.
the long journey home well worth it...
If memory serves I think Mrs Balding called him a "little monkey or "that" monkey live on air on a racecourse. I cannot remember the transmission or event of the occasion.
It’s been said he’s had some fights, apparently Clifford Lee loves his boxing outside of racing, uses it to train his reflexes and keep fit. Hope he’s not tapped on his shoulder!
As he might oblige!
But, times have changed; integrity and responsibility have been sacrificed and overtaken by self-interests and personal gain.
All these transgressed on integrity and responsibility ie conditions for being a fit and proper person to trade.
If Mr Murphy is a priest, the Pope is a Muslim or an atheist. There are so many jockeys able, willing and responsible as replacement.
The BHA is not a proactive but a reactive and non-innovative entity; bookies led, BHA followed --> present dire state of UK Horseracing.
That's the $64k question. Why? Mr Murphy has a history of drinking - he missed several scheduled breath tests. Any another sport eg tennis or football - he'd have been toast for missing unscheduled drug tests; football - betting. Plus negative behaviour outside a boozer.
These were common knowledge. Mr Murphy has form. But, business as usual for Mr Murphy aided and abetted by the BHA - an ineffective regulator, and toothless!
These are classic behaviours of an alcoholic ie denial, denial, denial. I sincerely hope when (NOT if) another alcohol episode in public or in private nobody esp a kid is present or hurt by his immaturity, irresponsibility and two-fingers-approach to the BHA, and his colleagues.
Guaranteed when he does it again his defenders will ignore that too and defend him again.
You are now wasting your breath.
Just a couple of examples but also hard to forget he thinks Sir Gino can win next years Arkle or last week he was advocating bookies should be taxed 50% on horse racing and a few threads later stating the opposite?
You are a wonderful man. Thank God we have you.
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Eddery, Swinburn and Sir Cecil had their demons. But, never drinking and driving, and crashing into a tree and hurting a passenger.
The incident occurred on July 16th when Cecil's car struck Len Hurrell, 78, and Joan Hurrell, 77, who were walking along a road.
Mrs. Hurrell suffered a broken arm, and Mr. Hurrell sustained cuts.
Cecil's alcohol reading was 88mg of alcohol in 100ml of breath, exceeding the legal limit of 35mg.
The accident happened after Cecil had been drinking at a lunch with a friend.
He initially blamed a friend for driving but later confessed at the police station.
Cecil's ban was reduced by 15 months after attending a drink-driving rehabilitation course.
This was Cecil's second drink-driving conviction within 10 years.
