July Cup

The present division is poor in comparison to previously. I hope he wins. The division needs a special horse.

They’ve been and gone Impossible

Big Mojo had no luck in running at Royal Ascot, 3yo have a decent record in the race. Backing win and place.

Good luck.

Spy Chief was first seen on a racecourse less than three months ago but I'm hoping he's worth a chance at 20/1 or 26 on here with the option of an in-running lay. His Jersey Stakes 2nd over 7f already gives him an official rating within 4lbs of all but four of his opponents. I can't see anything that's likely to take him on for the lead and it's possible his jockey will try similar tactics to what produced wins for Audience last season. The wide draw may help with this. If this is how the race takes shape then No Half Measures may find herself well placed and 50/1 a nice price for a progressive filly.

proveracing MSm/pundits are taking the pish, i,m now at a dozen today alone whove said the july cup fioeld without notable speech is pish poor,if noble speech hadnt beden supplemented do you think these 12 and more would have been telling viewers /readers 24/7 for last week,that THE JULY CUP IS PISH POOR on saturday

Gone Believing ew, not for the first time he ran badly at Ascot but was poorly drawn
flashed home a few times over 5f and this uphill finish over 6f should play to his strengths
has good grp1 form (3rd in Abbeye, won Gr1 over 6f at Meydan etc) and hopefully Billy will produce him fast and late


gl chaps

Believing for me. It's such a weak renewal I think the fav ought to be 7/1 at least.

Inisherin ew for me...

Yep. If Alcohol free can win it so can Notable Speech also like Spy chief

Oh well. NR..thank f@ck..I need the money..

Pretty good call the wire

Jul 12, 2025 -- 12:59PM, the wire wrote:

Spy Chief was first seen on a racecourse less than three months ago but I'm hoping he's worth a chance at 20/1 or 26 on here with the option of an in-running lay. His Jersey Stakes 2nd over 7f already gives him an official rating within 4lbs of all but four of his opponents. I can't see anything that's likely to take him on for the lead and it's possible his jockey will try similar tactics to what produced wins for Audience last season. The wide draw may help with this. If this is how the race takes shape then No Half Measures may find herself well placed and 50/1 a nice price for a progressive filly.

YES!! Great shout!

If anyone was in any doubt how poor our sprinters are……

Nice stuff the wire

wd the wire.

well done, The Wire.

well done the wire

Believing the unlucky horse in the race hampered two or three times and would certainly have finished closer than 4th

well done the wire

Believing the unlucky horse in the race hampered two or three times and would certainly have finished closer than 4th

No half measures here tonight either!

Callan great sprint jock riding  all that time against all the best Sprinter's in the world whilst out in Hong Kong!!

Congrats the wire.

great Call Wire , Not sure what loughnane was doing on Believing

A trip to turkey on the cards to

Thanks for the messages. It just looked like a race where there would be some big priced ones in the frame. It's always been one of my favourite races since Cochrane weaved Chief Singer through a quality field in 1984.

Another confirmation that our current crop of sprinters are moderate. 12 of them within 6 lengths.

our sprinters in uk and ireland are and have been poor for a long time now , and bar a few milers and middle distance horses  thats another poor lot compared to years ago,

oops sorry, very well done The wire

Bit of a mystery really when we are told horses are being bred more for speed these days.

Well done Mr Hughes! A 1st Gp 1, and at Newmarket too.

It was sporting and brave of Mr Appleby and Godolphin to run here. But, I think Notable Speech will run over 7f, and no more (maybe in Ireland); 8f is just too competitive for him.

6F.

Retirement beckons for Notable Speech who looks regressive although I hope not

Great shout from the wire. Well done!

Sprint Cup at Haydock then. He barely stays a mile.

Nice one wire. Lazzat going for city of York but maybe he's the answer to this pish poor sprinting division

Nice 1 the wire. What a shout

Jul 12, 2025 -- 5:48PM, impossible123 wrote:

Sprint Cup at Haydock then. He barely stays a mile.

You think that they’ll go sprinting again with Notable Speech?

It’s all about him running at the right track ;)

cropsick, great point @1726. We are breeding for speed but our sprinters are rubbish! God knows how that happens. You would think the odd miler, whom we do breed for, would be ok dropped but no.....And in the UK we can't beat Coolmore over 10f (often) and 12f+ (never). One wonders what we are breeding for!!!

i think uk trainers are quite content with winning some bloody hcaps , god uk top trainers are shambolic f   bar gosden, in the group races  ,

cracking call the wire well done

Breeders are breeding for profits at the Sales, Donegal and who could blame them with the ridiculous prices being fetched

What an absolutely stinking race that was.

The wire, a good mate of mine done chief singer BB, rip Baz

Good read by the way

Indeed

Punters geeting another shafting ffs...Absolute Mugs Game.

Just watched it again, probably not for the last time. Thanks everybody for kind remarks. Chief Singer's win was the first I ever taped on video to watch after getting home from work. Must have watched that dozens of times.

Great shout, TW.

Great shout The wire and, Different Gravy, I hope that the lady that led up the horse doesn't read your disgusting comment. Richard Hughes is one of the nice guys in the sport and choosing her to lead up the winner must have been one of the greatest days of her life. WD Hughsie.
Whats next for NS? He's looking a bit one paced on fast ground and I would like to see him on better ground, which he may find in Deauville in the Jacques le Marois, we'll see.

'Delashay', I meant 7f eg de la Foret on Arc Day. For some reason I thought this race was over 5f.

I get you *thumbs up

Notable Speech is clearly regressive and I suspect that retirement is not far away

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Fat cripple leading the winner!!!
Why would anyone put a comment like that up?....Biggest C***T on The Forum by a mile.

Only a moron, 'acey'.

As you say Delashay there are group ones then there are Group 1’s.  And this was the former.
Great plus for Hughes though and good luck to him.  Hope the new owners he needs come knocking on his door.

Disgusting comment from Different Gravy.

The sprinting division has been weak for a long time.

Pleased for Hughes.

I’m pleased for Hughes and people had written off a horse that had never been out of the first two over six furlongs in four starts.
Take a look at in running comments and you’ll see that she’s been running over 5 mainly and in nearly all it says , “Nearest at finish.”

I think races get called crap when we’ve overlooked the winner. The booking of Neil Callan was important too. He knows sprint pace from racing against  the best in Hong Kong.

Also she was only 2 lengths behind Believing in last years Abbaye as a 3 year old. Those on ITV have been talking about her non stop all year…. ‘Zzzzz.

I’d be wary of saying Notable Speech will be retired, after running in the wrong race. Godolphin have a knack for doing this. Why didn’t he go for the easy Mile at Deauville? The mile there is shortest in distance anywhere. So if he’s not retired what could they be setting up?

He never lost at Ascot because he never stayed but the Jock on Docklands had hemmed him in as he had done to Shoemark in our Guineas.

This quote is from the story on the post now about Dancing Gemini going for the Marois.

When I spoke to John Gosden the day after the Queen Anne and asked him if we'd left our race in the Lockinge, he said, 'Possibly' but he was right that it was a farce of a pace in the Queen Anne," said Teal. "Our horses are strong milers and needed a strong gallop and we just got outsprinted.

The one horse who should have been suited to that has just run over a sprint trip!

This game really can make fools of us all.

I reckon that they’re working bc, from another crack at the Breeders Cup Mile, via the Forret. It’s at the same track as where he was beaten 1L last year. They know the route and more importantly they’ll get the odds.

Whether he wins or not they’ll be hoping and waiting for everything in the mile devision back here to shoot their bolt and take him there fresh. Trainers try to win races they know and think are winnable.

I expect Aiden is eyeing the race for Mattisse too so he can attempt the juvenile turf / mile double as Appleby has dine previously.

Tomorrow I’ll awake to the news of retirement!

theres a side on few ,where the winner is under the cosh miles out,hanging,struggling to go past the gosden horse far side and looked a million never mind 66,s shot,noble speech probably broke to well and went to fast tracking tearaway leader on this side

I’ve not seen 1tp was it on RTV?

After the Kings Stand result was anyone surprised at the biggest priced winner here? We all know that there’s no superstars.

Yes Loyal the Queen Anne throws some shockers and in some years it’s lucky to be called a G1.