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Prince of India
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brocklebank value +
pricewise
all putting PRINCE OF INDIA up
brocklebank value +
pricewise
all putting PRINCE OF INDIA up
RESULTS (win only)
Sir Tom
3.00 N Prince Of India WON 7/1 sp (10/1 in price grid)
Sir Keals
5.20 N Dutch Decoy WON 14/1 sp
Sir Tom
3.00 N Prince Of India WON 7/1 sp (10/1 in price grid)
Sir Keals
5.20 N Dutch Decoy WON 14/1 sp
no connection with this fella at all
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THURSDAY BET
3.00 Newmarket - Prince Of India - 2 points win only PLUS 2 points each way @ 14/1 with bet365 and Betfred, 12/1 general (most bookies paying 5 places, including those namechecked)
6 points staked (4 points on the win, 2 points on the place)
3.00 Newmarket
Out of the 937 horses currently in the tracker, Prince Of India is probably the horse I’m most excited about and most confident about winning a decent race on his next couple of starts. It’s a slight shame that he’s running in this race, as it’s ultra competitive and the winner tends to turn out to be a very smart horse, plus he has course biases to contend with too.
Prince Of India has been progressive and consistent this season, with form figures of 1212. The first three runs came at 7f and the bare form of those was unremarkable. He was dropped to 6f last time out at Leicester though, and that form is a lot more remarkable, suggesting he improved for the drop in trip.
He’d previously raced prominently in all his races, but it seemed a deliberate decision for him to be held up early on last time out. The 1st, 3rd, 5th and 6th were all on the pace, or close to it, so there was a bit of a pace bias towards the prominent racers but Prince Of India came from last to 2nd to put in a visually impressive performance, even if he couldn’t win.
The form of that race couldn’t be much hotter, we’ve had two winners from it in the past week alone (Crestofdistinction and Santa Savana). In total now, 4 of the first 8 home have won since and they include the winner, who won a red hot York handicap traditionally won by a horse well ahead of its mark, and also the 5th, who has won by over 5 lengths since. Even the 8th took apart a relatively competitive handicap by 2 lengths, so a lot of these were extremely well handicapped and the way the race developed, Prince Of India probably shaped like the one who could be best handicapped going forward.
He looks amazing value compared to two of the horses he met at Leicester, who have subsequently won. Hucklesbrook is a general favourite for this race, at around 6/1. He was the horse that beat Prince Of India into 2nd, winning by a length. Here he’s 12lbs worse off with our selection for that length winning distance.
Crestofdistinction was 1.5 lengths BEHIND our selection at Leicester, getting much more of the run of the race, and that horse is 10lbs well in here under a penalty but still 3lbs worse off with our horse. On a side note, as impressive as Crestofdistinction was when winning for us at Wolverhampton, a 16lb hike for that win is ridiculous and he’s possibly better on the all weather too. Crestofdistinction is around 4th in the betting at 8/1, much shorter than Prince Of India, despite the fact that Prince Of India should confirm form with him.
Over a fairer course and distance, I’d be willing to have a bigger stake on Prince Of India, because I really do think he is very well handicapped, but there are some draw and pace doubts. It normally pays to be drawn higher in this, and we are in stall 5. The lowest winning stall in the past 8 years is stall 8 and 6 of the winners in that time have come from double figures. All of the pace also seems to be high this year, and there is loads of it, and that could further inconvenience those drawn lower.
More of a concern though is pace. This is a race where you almost certainly need to be near the speed early on to win. The first 3 home last year were up there early, the first 4 in 2023 were prominent or led, the winner in 2022 made all, the first 4 in 2021 were near the pace or led and the last winner to even come from as far as back as mid division was in 2017. Prince Of India has usually been near the early pace, which is great, but those runs were over 7f and he was held up last time over 6f. Despite the uphill finish, this is a real speed test and if Prince Of India is held up early here he’s going to struggle to even place (hence the smaller place bet than win bet). However, if he is up with the early pace here, and his draw isn’t a massive problem, he should go very close and massively outrun his odds.
There are loads of potentially well handicapped horses here. I don’t think Hucklesbrook should be shorter than Prince Of India, but he’s got a great run style for this race, what is probably a nice draw in 17 and I wouldn’t rule out a good show from him. Double Rush is well handicapped but the ground and pace bias might be against him, Invictus Gold could still be ahead of the assessor but I’m not sure about the ground or draw for him, Realign isn’t one I’d want to back but he could still be well handicapped and was gambled on to win a 24 runner handicap at Royal Ascot last time out. Tawasol is another who could be anything and has a nice run style for this.
Assuming Prince Of India holds his form, I’m certain he’ll win for us soon, even if it’s not here. At the very least he’s massive value against those he’s met previously, and I’m amazed he’s not a single figure price, if not challenging for favouritism. I’m sure a stiffer 6f will suit in time, but he’s well enough handicapped to get away with it here as long as he isn’t too far from the pace.
yesterday at 5:31pm xxxxx likes thisQuoteEditlikePost Options
Post by xxxxxxxl on yesterday at 5:31pm
Free Email tip received today. From surewin. Read it yourself and make your own decision.
THURSDAY BET
3.00 Newmarket - Prince Of India - 2 points win only PLUS 2 points each way @ 14/1 with bet365 and Betfred, 12/1 general (most bookies paying 5 places, including those namechecked)
6 points staked (4 points on the win, 2 points on the place)
3.00 Newmarket
Out of the 937 horses currently in the tracker, Prince Of India is probably the horse I’m most excited about and most confident about winning a decent race on his next couple of starts. It’s a slight shame that he’s running in this race, as it’s ultra competitive and the winner tends to turn out to be a very smart horse, plus he has course biases to contend with too.
Prince Of India has been progressive and consistent this season, with form figures of 1212. The first three runs came at 7f and the bare form of those was unremarkable. He was dropped to 6f last time out at Leicester though, and that form is a lot more remarkable, suggesting he improved for the drop in trip.
He’d previously raced prominently in all his races, but it seemed a deliberate decision for him to be held up early on last time out. The 1st, 3rd, 5th and 6th were all on the pace, or close to it, so there was a bit of a pace bias towards the prominent racers but Prince Of India came from last to 2nd to put in a visually impressive performance, even if he couldn’t win.
The form of that race couldn’t be much hotter, we’ve had two winners from it in the past week alone (Crestofdistinction and Santa Savana). In total now, 4 of the first 8 home have won since and they include the winner, who won a red hot York handicap traditionally won by a horse well ahead of its mark, and also the 5th, who has won by over 5 lengths since. Even the 8th took apart a relatively competitive handicap by 2 lengths, so a lot of these were extremely well handicapped and the way the race developed, Prince Of India probably shaped like the one who could be best handicapped going forward.
He looks amazing value compared to two of the horses he met at Leicester, who have subsequently won. Hucklesbrook is a general favourite for this race, at around 6/1. He was the horse that beat Prince Of India into 2nd, winning by a length. Here he’s 12lbs worse off with our selection for that length winning distance.
Crestofdistinction was 1.5 lengths BEHIND our selection at Leicester, getting much more of the run of the race, and that horse is 10lbs well in here under a penalty but still 3lbs worse off with our horse. On a side note, as impressive as Crestofdistinction was when winning for us at Wolverhampton, a 16lb hike for that win is ridiculous and he’s possibly better on the all weather too. Crestofdistinction is around 4th in the betting at 8/1, much shorter than Prince Of India, despite the fact that Prince Of India should confirm form with him.
Over a fairer course and distance, I’d be willing to have a bigger stake on Prince Of India, because I really do think he is very well handicapped, but there are some draw and pace doubts. It normally pays to be drawn higher in this, and we are in stall 5. The lowest winning stall in the past 8 years is stall 8 and 6 of the winners in that time have come from double figures. All of the pace also seems to be high this year, and there is loads of it, and that could further inconvenience those drawn lower.
More of a concern though is pace. This is a race where you almost certainly need to be near the speed early on to win. The first 3 home last year were up there early, the first 4 in 2023 were prominent or led, the winner in 2022 made all, the first 4 in 2021 were near the pace or led and the last winner to even come from as far as back as mid division was in 2017. Prince Of India has usually been near the early pace, which is great, but those runs were over 7f and he was held up last time over 6f. Despite the uphill finish, this is a real speed test and if Prince Of India is held up early here he’s going to struggle to even place (hence the smaller place bet than win bet). However, if he is up with the early pace here, and his draw isn’t a massive problem, he should go very close and massively outrun his odds.
There are loads of potentially well handicapped horses here. I don’t think Hucklesbrook should be shorter than Prince Of India, but he’s got a great run style for this race, what is probably a nice draw in 17 and I wouldn’t rule out a good show from him. Double Rush is well handicapped but the ground and pace bias might be against him, Invictus Gold could still be ahead of the assessor but I’m not sure about the ground or draw for him, Realign isn’t one I’d want to back but he could still be well handicapped and was gambled on to win a 24 runner handicap at Royal Ascot last time out. Tawasol is another who could be anything and has a nice run style for this.
Assuming Prince Of India holds his form, I’m certain he’ll win for us soon, even if it’s not here. At the very least he’s massive value against those he’s met previously, and I’m amazed he’s not a single figure price, if not challenging for favouritism. I’m sure a stiffer 6f will suit in time, but he’s well enough handicapped to get away with it here as long as he isn’t too far from the pace.
fancy landing a touch like that get and getting
the pace wrong
draw wrong
and how the race was run wrong
hows yeh luck
the pace wrong
draw wrong
and how the race was run wrong
hows yeh luck
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