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"The Establishment" typically refers to a dominant group or elite that controls a society or organization.
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rico making himself look a right C**T, stick to giving people abuse ydf.
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He couldn't possibly outdo you in that area Acey(I will leave the forum)
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well googled ricardo
its not something you would have come up with and is wrong. it doesnt exist. its a favourite of conspiracy mugs that are obsessed with the 'deep state' and its power to control its total bollox. 'they' are always at it and we cant see it. but youve seen enough loonytube to know better mugs have an almost touching belief in the power of elites to lie cheat and fool the sheeple. and they never break rank, despite it being a giant con, with untold numbers involved. amazing examine what it is you allege in the way you would 'question' the official narrative and it falls apart. but mugs dont do this. confirmation bias reigns |
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The point he was making is if you "fight ( and kill/die ) for your country " it can be the case that any benefit is not long lasting. Britain would now be considered a sh1thole by nearly all of these men if still around. Correct ?
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sew who makes the decision to stand by and allow mass immigration? only the current prime minister?
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Certain large families with extremely large wealth. Follow the money.
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I count some Irishmen as friends as someone who has spent 60 years around horse racing but that does not mean that I like Ireland as a country. During most of my adult life, Ireland has been a hostile nation to UK. They fought hard to achieve independence (for good reasons) but continue to campaign for the rest of the Island to be part of the independent Republic of Ireland. Why on earth should UK treat them any more favourably than France, Spain, Poland or any where else in Europe? The Irish citizens have freedom of movement to UK over and above what any other EU citizen has. Why? The racing industry lump Irish racing with GB for some statistical reasons. Why? We allow Michael O'Leary to tell the UK what to do about airline policy but not the heads of Air France, Lufthansa or Turkish Airlines. Why?
As far as the topic is concerned, I might occasionally mention a horse that I have bet on but never the stake which is my own business and nobody else. Betting is a hobby that I do for pleasure for small stakes and not relevant to anyone. I invest 1000 times more in the stock market than on horses. |
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We have freedom of movement to Ireland don't we ?
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And sageform Ireland produces superior racehorses annd greyhounds and mop up all our festivals and most of the classics.
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So he mentions the horse when he has buttons on .... but doesn't post his "bets " when x1000 stock market. You can never appear to be an idiot that way can you ?
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I have mentioned my shares on the appropriate forum. Not bitterness exactly just asking why they are treated differently from any other independent EU country. The IRA (Irish Republican Army) is the only one to attack mainland UK and kill my fellow citizens in my 81 years on the planet but we give them free access. Yes we have free access to Ireland but why?
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THat can't literally be true Sageform. There was a little confrontation that lasted until after you were born (the V2's didn't start until June 44). I'm also assuming other terrorist attacks are excluded from your analysis.
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Yes, sorry excluding the WW2 for which I was not old enough to remember but I do remember the attack on the UK Government in Brighton and of course many battles in Northern Ireland which you may be aware is in UK. And please don't tell me that the combatants were all UK citizens. I am no fan of the Ulster Loyalists but I am a patriot. LH, why would I be happy to see Irish horses win our valuable races? No different to watching India thrash our useless cricketers.
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Chit! I’ve been taping the highlights and two days to watch tonight!
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Sage, it’s a historical agreement, common travel area, dating back yonks.
Also it’s geographical, as to the close proximity. 52 miles, It’s also related to trade As both countries have huge trade with each other, with huge volumes of goods And people moving back n forth, would not be practical And also we spent 400 yesrs fcuking them, committing mass murder, by Multiple state forces/agenicies. We were also responsible for the famine in 1845 on Killed 1.4 million Irish people. We treated the Irish terribly. The IRA evolved from thé IRB, as they could not achieve full independence through Political precession. They took up arms, I agree they committed some unspeakable crimes As we did. And Howard is right, we both avail of the CTA agreement, it works both ways |
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Only a metre apart if you count NI. We are almost as close to France but still have passports, customs etc. I am aware of the history etc. My point is that the Irish really don't like us but we admit them here as if they were British citizens.
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New respect poncho. We are in agreement again. I point blank refuse to disagree with you when I think you are right.
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They largely speak English. Do the French ?
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I think they have very good reasons not to like us, and Ithink it’s the least we can do sage, I don’t mind thé
Irish, on the whole, they have the same type ice holes we have over here. My Mrs is Irish, amazing woman |
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LH
, well they are just some of the facts LH, its what happened It’s the same with the Israelis, I admire there restraint in the Middle East Hamas committed atrocities not seen since the crusades, on October 7, How thé hell did people expect them to respond?? And I know that’s a minority view, it certainly Is in Ireland, I was there Last week, vast majority are pro palistinian. So you won’t be in agreement On this. lol |
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Well this certainly developed into something i wasn't expecting ,much respect
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My post disappeared and I am not typing all that out again thanks ponch for saving me giving sage a history lesson
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Looks like the class of 25 were born behind a keyboard and never lived the " History" of the terrorist province who remained neutral during a world conflict?
Brave men and women? ROFL |
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Yeah I ment to respond to Roysl Academy’s post, we have a complete and
Utter disaster of a country here, and it’s getting more fcuked up by the day Mass immigration facilitated by a Neo liberal political elite thoughout Europe They call it progressive politics, they now realise it’s a total disaster, most Of EU now moving to the right, and the biggest issue ?? Immigration. We have over 300,000 Romanians here, probably more, did any one expect or vote for thst ?? I think you were been too generous earlier, in your description. But you see now if you or espouse any opinion contrary to the left wing ideology You are called all sorts of monikers. It’s almost like left wing fascism. Your are silenced?? |
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I expect a few over there were hoping Germany would batter us.
Someone in their Government sent condolences for Hitler snuffing it. There were also people from Eire who joined up and fought. |
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Saddo, apparently during the rising in Ireland, world war 1 broke out, thé fight
Against the British occupation and rule in Ireland was paused, and over 100,00 paddy’s Joined the British army, to fight against the Kyser? Margaret mcmillion done a amazing series on the First World War, on radio 4 Details of the Irish joining us is there ?? Think it was called Peace makers, tge Versailles treaty, it’s well worth a listen Saddo, 6 eps |
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never mind that. read the book. intractable problems but they did their best
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Neutrality in WW2 was shameful though, and the condolences.
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there were many neutral countries
its not that simple and historical perspective is called for but not found, mostly |
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Well done Jacko.
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Neutrality in WW2 was shameful though, and the condolences.
Yeah I agree with that, but arn’t they still neutral today ?? Not sure why they adopt neutrality stance, Europeans, and in the west?? |