If someone is losing £1.5m then there should be a duty of care by the bookie. Even if it was over ten years ago, questions should have been asked (they possibly were).
If someone is losing £1.5m then there should be a duty of care by the bookie. Even if it was over ten years ago, questions should have been asked (they possibly were).
Poke a highness, no idea what your previous is but if your last post is a guide.........gormless?
I’ve learned enough from my previous visit on here, to ignore 99% of what you Post, as it’s clear your mind is not functioning well, and I’m not sure you could lie Straight in bed
Poke a highness, no idea what your previous is but if your last post is a guide.........gormless?I’ve learned enough from my previous visit on here, to ignore 99% of what youPost, as it’s clear your mind is not functioning well, and I’m not sur
So what happened to shafter Kenbo? Account manager apparently but managed to lose his £3 million and then some?
Now calls here scamfair and notfair but claims £5 per day profit whilst trolling? Getting some of his own medicine but cannot admit being a loser?
So what happened to shafter Kenbo? Account manager apparently but managed to lose his £3 million and then some?Now calls here scamfair and notfair but claims £5 per day profit whilst trolling? Getting some of his own medicine but cannot admit being
unitedbiscuits 30 Jun 25 20:44 It's relevant insomuch as we all have been advised NOT to speculate on the Oisin Murphy case in front of the court hearing and subsequent case. Through which the Oisin thread has basically run a coach and horses. Which makes your fey allusions to events twenty years ago ridiculous
now please dont get me at it. i have a long night ahead
you said findlay was given a credit line. i said it wasnt just him. you then said i was making it up. i said not and you asked for evidence. i gave soem reasons, but no names
now you describe 'fey' allusions. i asked for an example of murphybollox on my part. you didnt supply any
murphy, btw, is on a different fred. you been drinking?
unitedbiscuits 30 Jun 25 20:44 It's relevant insomuch as we all have been advised NOT to speculate on the Oisin Murphy case in front of the court hearing and subsequent case. Through which the Oisin thread has basically run a coach and horses. Which
If this pair you allude to have each splurged a million of betfair's money, the company won't mind if you name them.
Just step up. Make your abstractions concrete.
If this pair you allude to have each splurged a million of betfair's money, the company won't mind if you name them. Just step up. Make your abstractions concrete.
Never said and never done but as a fan of shafter you probably believe he never assaulted women?
Sad that you think it is big to hide behind your keyboard tbh!!
Never said and never done but as a fan of shafter you probably believe he never assaulted women?Sad that you think it is big to hide behind your keyboard tbh!!
The thing is, Glen. Someone makes a throw-away comment on here to try and cause harm to someone, and you believe it straight away. That’s why you were a crap copper and an even worse GI Joe.
The thing is, Glen. Someone makes a throw-away comment on here to try and cause harm to someone, and you believe it straight away. That’s why you were a crap copper and an even worse GI Joe.
Why would I meltdown United Crackers? Only the juvenile keyboard warriors seem to do that but does mean you are bereft of the ability to debate imvho!!
Why would I meltdown United Crackers? Only the juvenile keyboard warriors seem to do that but does mean you are bereft of the ability to debate imvho!!
unitedbiscuits 30 Jun 25 21:02 If this pair you allude to have each splurged a million of betfair's money, the company won't mind if you name them.
Just step up. Make your abstractions concrete
if you think its the company im bothered about then you are way out
the root of your confusion is they were given credit, but i didnt make it clear they didnt lose. i assumed you would get that but as you admit you really dont know, i can see why the misunderstanding occurred
unitedbiscuits 30 Jun 25 21:02 If this pair you allude to have each splurged a million of betfair's money, the company won't mind if you name them.Just step up. Make your abstractions concreteif you think its the company im bothered about then you a
That would be why my commendations were awarded Kenbo? Proof of which was posted many years ago along with my actual service?
Name anyone who has ever provided as much over the years despite small minded haters like yourself?
That would be why my commendations were awarded Kenbo? Proof of which was posted many years ago along with my actual service?Name anyone who has ever provided as much over the years despite small minded haters like yourself?
I worked in the industry thé problem gambling issue is huge, not small, I can assure that. Estimated 3 to 4 suicides a week Due to gambling
due to gambling on what exactly ?? online slots, casino, roulette .... that's the 'huge' problem.
I worked in the industry thé problem gambling issue is huge, not small, I can assure that. Estimated 3 to 4 suicides a weekDue to gamblingdue to gambling on what exactly ?? online slots, casino, roulette .... that's the 'huge' problem.
problem is when someone does themselves in its quite likely there are many factors in play
drugs, mrs left them, depressed, health problems, lost, or more likely, gained a job, bereavement, general unhappiness but gambolling is mentioned and bingo, its the reason
problem is when someone does themselves in its quite likely there are many factors in playdrugs, mrs left them, depressed, health problems, lost, or more likely, gained a job, bereavement, general unhappiness but gambolling is mentioned and bingo, it
It’s very simple, when you sign up to open a betting account You supply the requested information, and most importantly proof Of funds etc. to determine what you can afford to lose. Thsts Perfectly logical. But to protectpeople who have gambling issues, Affordability checks have been introduced, thé key word is affordability
With people who have issues, if the bookies follow the rules, they can intervene And stop people losing life changing sums of money, and very quickly too
There have been numerous cases of people ruining their lives through uncontrolled Problem gambling. Thé bookies have are completely aware of everyone in trouble, through Their spend, they do nothing,absolutely nothing, they let these punters, run out of cash, and if case is highlighted They absorb the fines and publicity. The regulation at the moment doesn’t work
I repeat no company, particularly betting companies should be allowed to accept huge sums gambling This punter Done 1.5 million, with no questions asked.So thé question Is do you think, it’s legally and corporately Acceptable to accept 1-5 million from one punter??
It’s very simple, when you sign up to open a betting account You supply the requested information, and most importantly proofOf funds etc. to determine what you can afford to lose. Thsts Perfectly logical. But to protectpeople who have gambling iss
It is the easy target mitolo, no mention of work pressures etc. I have seen too many suicides to document but have personal experience to call on. The first ever was a friend of my mother in law, her dentist.
I had day surgery this afternoon and spoke to several professionals who discussed their schedules including my consultant, would not be a surprise to find one that had decided it was too much.
It is the easy target mitolo, no mention of work pressures etc. I have seen too many suicides to document but have personal experience to call on. The first ever was a friend of my mother in law, her dentist.I had day surgery this afternoon and spoke
if i open a boils account tomorrow i'm history after 3 bets cos he know's he's getting fk all out of me. if he's that good at identifying people he doesn't want he must be able to identify problem losers. trouble is, instead of limiting them to buttons he invites them to a hospitality tent somewhere and pretends to be their best friend.
if i open a boils account tomorrow i'm history after 3 bets cos he know's he's getting fk all out of me. if he's that good at identifying people he doesn't want he must be able to identify problem losers. trouble is, instead of limiting them to but
proof of funds means nothing and who determines how much you can lose?
those who are going to do it in will do it in, nothing anyone can do about it
if the punter is tony bloom, should he supply info? ive said it before, anecdotally, i know people who do not bother now because of this, and they have plenty. thats several mill turnover gone. they only bet on-course
and no other state does this. are they criminally reckless or are we the opposite?
poor ol poncho just doesnt get itproof of funds means nothing and who determines how much you can lose?those who are going to do it in will do it in, nothing anyone can do about itif the punter is tony bloom, should he supply info? ive said it before
Hulk, problem gambling is problem gambling, where ever you do your dough, obviously slots and casino and the fobt’s are obviously the hard core and well designed gambling Products, ruthlessly marketed to exploit thé most venerable?? No company should Be able to behave like this ? And completely ruin peoples lives
Hulk, problem gambling is problem gambling, where ever you do your dough, obviously slots andcasino and the fobt’s are obviously the hard core and well designed gamblingProducts, ruthlessly marketed to exploit thé most venerable?? No company sho
Poke a highness have you and your idiotic cohorts never worked out that a bookie laid odds that Jesus would not survive the night on the cross and you lumped on that he would?
Then went for the double that he would come back and you would be paid out on 31/12/2024?
Have you been paid yet?
Poke a highness have you and your idiotic cohorts never worked out that a bookie laid odds that Jesus would not survive the night on the cross and you lumped on that he would?Then went for the double that he would come back and you would be paid out
you can't have a "problem" online unless some cnts sitting watching you lose a 'problem' amount and doing fk all to address it.
which they clearly are.
you can't have a "problem" online unless some cnts sitting watching you lose a 'problem' amount and doing fk all to address it. which they clearly are.
Last comment on the Issue from me, to Mitolo, was it Acceptable for Betfair to take 1.5 million off this punter without asking Any questions, or intervening at any time ???
Last comment on the Issue from me, to Mitolo, was itAcceptable for Betfair to take 1.5 million off this punter without asking Any questions, or intervening at any time ???
People are entirely responsible for their own actions whatever they are. Nanny State gone mad with encouragement from the Anti Gambling Commission led by clueless morons with zero experience in gambling. An absolute laughing stock to the rest of the World
People are entirely responsible for their own actions whatever they are.Nanny State gone mad with encouragement from the Anti Gambling Commission led by clueless morons with zero experience in gambling.An absolute laughing stock to the rest of the W
The problem is that gambling is a fairly unique issue in many ways. The closest comparison is investments and business ventures, but mostly they are slow and longer term, and not as closely related to 'buzz' etc.
Gambling is one of the very few ways individuals can lump money rapidly into bets, lose it, and keep going immediately that way...In the most extreme cases that can ruin a person's life, very literally.
What really annoys me is that while the media are hand-wringing about some poor gambler case, there is adverts all over the place banging on about some bingo or free-spins, or free awful value bet, filth - and that is everywhere, despite the supposed 'concerns' about gambling.
If society is really concerned about gambling, then fecking well stop the 'moron gambler hunting' that keeps endlessly happening across all media, and is encouraged to grow! Either that, or let's just go back to letting anyone do what they want.
The problem is that gambling is a fairly unique issue in many ways. The closest comparison is investments and business ventures, but mostly they are slow and longer term, and not as closely related to 'buzz' etc.Gambling is one of the very few ways i
I've just realised I said all that and didn't even mention scratch cards - holding up every normal shopping queue while the person decides how many number 7's and number 5's they want to buy with their remaining cash in the purse - but of course, that is just fine...
I've just realised I said all that and didn't even mention scratch cards - holding up every normal shopping queue while the person decides how many number 7's and number 5's they want to buy with their remaining cash in the purse - but of course, tha
Should responsible horse racing gamblers be punished because of a relatively small percentage of FOBT addicts?
should tesco stop selling paracetamol because of a relatively small percentage of crack cocaine addicts ?
Should responsible horse racing gamblers be punished because of a relatively small percentage of FOBT addicts?should tesco stop selling paracetamol because of a relatively small percentage of crack cocaine addicts ?
If a man comes home without the housekeeping to give to the wife, a gambling company can't be held responsible for that. It is totally the man's fault for a complete lack of self control and for marrying the wrong woman.
If a man comes home without the housekeeping to give to the wife, a gambling company can't be held responsible for that. It is totally the man's fault for a complete lack of self control and for marrying the wrong woman.
In recent examples where people have asked to self-exclude but have been able to continue using their account that is the company's responsibilty, self-exclusion should mean account closure and they're very good at that with normal punters.
In recent examples where people have asked to self-exclude but have been able to continue using their account that is the company's responsibilty, self-exclusion should mean account closure and they're very good at that with normal punters.
I agree on that irons, and oddly they have also started to increase advertising I think - etoro etc.
Advertising in gambling/trading is the key issue IMO - but for all the new movements we've seen that is one area that manages to go untouched mostly.
I agree on that irons, and oddly they have also started to increase advertising I think - etoro etc.Advertising in gambling/trading is the key issue IMO - but for all the new movements we've seen that is one area that manages to go untouched mostly.
When I say agree, I mean I agree that is equally a problem gambling area, but one that goes unregulated mostly.
The stats are something like about 90+% of home based stock traders on the stock market lose cash. That might be even worse than areas like sports gambling. I'm pretty sure there will have been suicides in those areas, so what is the reason it gets treated different?
When I say agree, I mean I agree that is equally a problem gambling area, but one that goes unregulated mostly.The stats are something like about 90+% of home based stock traders on the stock market lose cash. That might be even worse than areas like
Just one example from a search - it is no different from the argument about controlling gambling basically.
https://business-school.open.ac.uk/news/stock-market-crashes-linked-higher-rates-suicide-%E2%80%93-new-researchJust one example from a search - it is no different from the argument about controlling gambling basically.
Interesting study as they basically isolate the effect it would have on traders with financial risk too in their method:
In our paper, we take all of these factors into account and isolate cleanly the influence of stock market movements. Even if market crashes typically overlap with periods of economic recession, they appear to generate an impact on voluntary deaths in their own right.
Interesting study as they basically isolate the effect it would have on traders with financial risk too in their method:In our paper, we take all of these factors into account and isolate cleanly the influence of stock market movements. Even if marke
Off the top of my head - a couple of differences between gambling and trading the stock exchange:
Does the Stock Market offer you free spins on payday (after you have self excluded)?
If you start out trading the FTSE100, do they try to entice you into trading Junk Bonds instead?
If your shares go up and you make a profit, do they prevent you withdrawing your profit until you have gone through their counter-terrorist protocol?
Does the Stock Exchange restrict or close the accounts of winning traders?
Off the top of my head - a couple of differences between gambling and trading the stock exchange:Does the Stock Market offer you free spins on payday (after you have self excluded)?If you start out trading the FTSE100, do they try to entice you into
Not identical, but I read a book by guy called Chris Stringman about the stock spread betting side, and how they will hold their 'seminars' in order to get you hooked into it, and offer certain incentives to come back once you leave.
I realise that spread betting is slightly different, but fairly sure there is marketing e.g. etoro and other services.
I've never done it, so someone else could probably tell us more about their marketing.
Not identical, but I read a book by guy called Chris Stringman about the stock spread betting side, and how they will hold their 'seminars' in order to get you hooked into it, and offer certain incentives to come back once you leave.I realise that sp
Look all these analogy’s with shopping, scratch cards, alcohol, stock market etc,Is Fcuking meaningless, none of tge above, can be be remotely controlled Or regulated. Thé bookies on the other hand have the ability to see what people are losing, on the fcuking Screens in front of them, it’s completely visable, and totally transparent. They do fcuk all, until The punters exhausts all their deng. The trawl for the next gen of problem punters, and the cycle repeats
Shitolo, I give up on you, I really do, with your, people are responsible for their own actions, are you some sort Of mental cripple, of course there are problem gamblers, they lose every fcuking penny they have, they Ruin their lives, thé is family’s lives, they lose their lives, and they are relentlessly pursued and exploited by the sewer rat bookies.
Conversely, if you turn up in a matching pair of socks, or dont loe quickly enough over A range of markets, you are barred, restricted and fcuked. Bookmakers are pure filth, scum, they Have no social conscience whatsoever. FFS
Look all these analogy’s with shopping, scratch cards, alcohol, stock market etc,Is Fcuking meaningless, none of tge above, can be be remotely controlled Or regulated. Thé bookies on the other hand have the ability to see what people are losing,
There have always been problem gamblers/drinkers etc. The Books continue to run rings around the hapless and clueless GC. The Aussies don't stand for it from the same Companies
There have always been problem gamblers/drinkers etc.The Books continue to run rings around the hapless and clueless GC.The Aussies don't stand for it from the same Companies
relentlessly pursued and exploited by the sewer rat bookies.
yep, this is my point about advertising - that would at least help if addressed.
most advertising of gambling is for the worst kinds, slots rubbish, bingo rubbish, casino rubbish. Also probably the most addictive and well used by problem gambler types.
relentlessly pursued and exploited by the sewer rat bookies.yep, this is my point about advertising - that would at least help if addressed. most advertising of gambling is for the worst kinds, slots rubbish, bingo rubbish, casino rubbish. Also proba
Most stupid thing I’ve seen is the people working behind the counters watching the fools piling their money into FOBT’s all day. Next thing you’ll see them over the road in another bookie on the FOBT!
Most stupid thing I’ve seen is the people working behind the counters watching the fools piling their money into FOBT’s all day. Next thing you’ll see them over the road in another bookie on the FOBT!
The bottom line with these fcukers, is you can lose Lose everything fcuking penny you have, and all that goes with it If you beat SP, you can fcuk off, online betting was their ultimate Gift from the gods
Shitolo, I asked you a question, which you swerved, was it acceptable for thst Poor fcuking punter to lose 1.5 million ?? Are you ok with that ??
Im apologising now for some of my French, still on holly days, had A few slurps already todst, no offence ment
The bottom line with these fcukers, is you can loseLose everything fcuking penny you have, and all that goes with itIf you beat SP, you can fcuk off, online betting was their ultimate Gift from the godsShitolo, I asked you a question, which you swerv
Just as a random aside, was this guy in the article one of the market 'bombers' we've seen in the past I wonder.
We always wondered where they came from.
Just as a random aside, was this guy in the article one of the market 'bombers' we've seen in the past I wonder.We always wondered where they came from.