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The bulk of the money, over £1.5m, went on his Betfair account, Bournemouth Crown Court heard.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14860339/Gambling-addict-stole-whopping-1-7million-company-financial-controller-locked-four-years.html
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Report ponchoslament June 30, 2025 8:44 PM BST
The gambling commission is a total waste of time
Mitolo, I should of wrote, not mitosis
Report CagliariG June 30, 2025 8:45 PM BST
Poke a highness, no idea what your previous is but if your last post is a guide.........gormless?
Report LoyalHoncho June 30, 2025 8:45 PM BST
Estimated?  By whom and based on what information?  Please?  Ta!
Report swiftynifty June 30, 2025 8:45 PM BST
poncho, are you mixing your mitolos?
Report CagliariG June 30, 2025 8:45 PM BST
2042 hrs btw!!
Report ponchoslament June 30, 2025 8:46 PM BST
Oh dear
Report elise June 30, 2025 8:46 PM BST
i'm sure he realised you'd just myxomatosis
Report unitedbiscuits June 30, 2025 8:47 PM BST
mitolotosis
Report s.kenbo June 30, 2025 8:48 PM BST
If someone is losing £1.5m then there should be a duty of care by the bookie. Even if it was over ten years ago, questions should have been asked (they possibly were).
Report ponchoslament June 30, 2025 8:51 PM BST
Poke a highness, no idea what your previous is but if your last post is a guide.........gormless?

I’ve learned enough from my previous visit on here, to ignore 99% of what you
Post, as it’s clear your mind is not functioning well, and I’m not sure you could lie
Straight in bed
Report CagliariG June 30, 2025 8:52 PM BST
So what happened to shafter Kenbo? Account manager apparently but managed to lose his £3 million and then some?

Now calls here scamfair and notfair but claims £5 per day profit whilst trolling? Getting some of his own medicine but cannot admit being a loser?
Report s.kenbo June 30, 2025 8:52 PM BST
100%, Poncho, not 99%!
Report LoyalHoncho June 30, 2025 8:52 PM BST
Does anyone know to whom h last bit of delirium was addressed?
Report CagliariG June 30, 2025 8:53 PM BST
Easy to provide evidence then poke a highness?
Report CagliariG June 30, 2025 8:54 PM BST
Ditto for you Kenbo?
Report s.kenbo June 30, 2025 8:54 PM BST
Glen, you’re the only person on here who doesn’t believe he’s won £3m.

He’s never gonna lose that. He’s gonna have a few bad days though.
Report LoyalHoncho June 30, 2025 8:55 PM BST
lol
Report LoyalHoncho June 30, 2025 8:55 PM BST
lol
Report racing6699 June 30, 2025 8:55 PM BST
Any consequences for BF?
Report s.kenbo June 30, 2025 8:55 PM BST
Not ditto for me. If I speak you should pay attention!
Report unitedbiscuits June 30, 2025 8:56 PM BST
Is Cagliari Glentoby?
Report s.kenbo June 30, 2025 8:56 PM BST
Yes.
Report elise June 30, 2025 8:56 PM BST
i can't believe you asked that lol
Report unitedbiscuits June 30, 2025 8:57 PM BST
Uh huh. Thanks. I'm mostly politics.
Report CagliariG June 30, 2025 8:57 PM BST
I cannot make blind idiots see tbf, he lost it shortly after 2018!!! If he had not why does he duck every opportunity to prove otherwise?
Report mitolo June 30, 2025 8:57 PM BST
unitedbiscuits 30 Jun 25 20:44 
It's relevant insomuch as we all have been advised NOT to speculate on the Oisin Murphy case in front of the court hearing and subsequent case. Through which the Oisin thread has basically run a coach and horses. Which makes your fey allusions to events twenty years ago ridiculous



now please dont get me at it. i have a long night ahead

you said findlay was given a credit line. i said it wasnt just him. you then said i was making it up. i said not and you asked for evidence. i gave soem reasons, but no names

now you describe 'fey' allusions. i asked for an example of murphybollox on my part. you didnt supply any

murphy, btw, is on a different fred. you been drinking?
Report s.kenbo June 30, 2025 8:57 PM BST
He’s even put ‘Liar’ into his name as a little clue!
Report elise June 30, 2025 8:58 PM BST
put cag in there too which is egyptian for tuna
Report unitedbiscuits June 30, 2025 9:00 PM BST

Jun 30, 2025 -- 8:57PM, mitolo wrote:


unitedbiscuits 30 Jun 25 20:44

Report CagliariG June 30, 2025 9:00 PM BST
A lot of opinion from you Kenbo, backed up by any facts?
Report CagliariG June 30, 2025 9:02 PM BST
Sad keyboard warriors with little else in life, never have a bet but lots of opinion of those that do and prove it!!
Report unitedbiscuits June 30, 2025 9:02 PM BST
If this pair you allude to have each splurged a million of betfair's money, the company won't mind if you name them.

Just step up. Make your abstractions concrete.
Report s.kenbo June 30, 2025 9:02 PM BST
Just my own BS detector, Glenn. Which not so surprisingly rings loudly when I read your posts!
Report CagliariG June 30, 2025 9:04 PM BST
Back it up with said posts then hero?

My last bet was £310 @ 6/5 Lequinto with PP and included £10 freebie.

Ever known me to not have proof?
Report elise June 30, 2025 9:06 PM BST
yes ...lol
Report elise June 30, 2025 9:06 PM BST
sry couldn't resist
Report s.kenbo June 30, 2025 9:07 PM BST
Shagging Suzi Quattro springs to mind!
Report CagliariG June 30, 2025 9:10 PM BST
Never said and never done but as a fan of shafter you probably believe he never assaulted women?

Sad that you think it is big to hide behind your keyboard tbh!!
Report unitedbiscuits June 30, 2025 9:11 PM BST
Entertaining! But I think mitolo/biscuits is second billing here so I'm going to check out (unless Cagliari has a complete meltdown).
Report s.kenbo June 30, 2025 9:13 PM BST
The thing is, Glen. Someone makes a throw-away comment on here to try and cause harm to someone, and you believe it straight away. That’s why you were a crap copper and an even worse GI Joe.
Report CagliariG June 30, 2025 9:14 PM BST
Why would I meltdown United Crackers? Only the juvenile keyboard warriors seem to do that but does mean you are bereft of the ability to debate imvho!!
Report s.kenbo June 30, 2025 9:15 PM BST
My bed time anyway, UB. Glenn can rant on for the rest of the night now!
Report mitolo June 30, 2025 9:15 PM BST
unitedbiscuits 30 Jun 25 21:02 
If this pair you allude to have each splurged a million of betfair's money, the company won't mind if you name them.

Just step up. Make your abstractions concrete



if you think its the company im bothered about then you are way out

the root of your confusion is they were given credit, but i didnt make it clear they didnt lose. i assumed you would get that but as you admit you really dont know, i can see why the misunderstanding occurred
Report CagliariG June 30, 2025 9:16 PM BST
That would be why my commendations were awarded Kenbo? Proof of which was posted many years ago along with my actual service?

Name anyone who has ever provided as much over the years despite small minded haters like yourself?
Report hulk23 June 30, 2025 9:18 PM BST
I worked in the industry thé problem gambling issue is huge, not small, I can assure that. Estimated 3 to 4 suicides a week
Due to gambling


due to gambling on what exactly ??  online slots, casino, roulette .... that's the 'huge' problem.
Report mitolo June 30, 2025 9:24 PM BST
problem is when someone does themselves in its quite likely there are many factors in play

drugs, mrs left them, depressed, health problems, lost, or more likely, gained a job, bereavement, general unhappiness but gambolling is mentioned and bingo, its the reason
Report ponchoslament June 30, 2025 9:29 PM BST
It’s very simple, when you sign up to open a betting account
You supply the requested information, and most importantly proof
Of funds etc. to determine what you can afford to lose. Thsts
Perfectly logical. But to protectpeople who have gambling issues,
Affordability checks have been introduced, thé key word is affordability

With people who have issues, if the bookies follow the rules, they can intervene
And stop people losing life changing sums of money, and very quickly too

There have been numerous cases of people ruining their lives through uncontrolled
Problem gambling. Thé bookies have are completely aware of everyone in trouble, through
Their spend, they do nothing,absolutely nothing, they let these punters, run out of cash, and if case is highlighted
They absorb the fines and publicity. The regulation at the moment doesn’t work

I repeat no company, particularly betting companies should be allowed to accept huge sums gambling
This punter Done 1.5 million, with no questions asked.So thé question Is do you think, it’s legally and corporately
Acceptable to accept 1-5 million from one punter??
Report CagliariG June 30, 2025 9:31 PM BST
It is the easy target mitolo, no mention of work pressures etc. I have seen too many suicides to document but have personal experience to call on. The first ever was a friend of my mother in law, her dentist.

I had day surgery this afternoon and spoke to several professionals who discussed their schedules including my consultant, would not be a surprise to find one that had decided it was too much.
Report hulk23 June 30, 2025 9:35 PM BST
if i open a boils account tomorrow i'm history after 3 bets cos he know's he's getting fk all out of me.  if he's that good at identifying people he doesn't want he must be able to identify problem losers.  trouble is, instead of limiting them to buttons he invites them to a hospitality tent somewhere and pretends to be their best friend.
Report mitolo June 30, 2025 9:44 PM BST
poor ol poncho just doesnt get it

proof of funds means nothing and who determines how much you can lose?

those who are going to do it in will do it in, nothing anyone can do about it

if the punter is tony bloom, should he supply info? ive said it before, anecdotally, i know people who do not bother now because of this, and they have plenty. thats several mill turnover gone. they only bet on-course

and no other state does this. are they criminally reckless or are we the opposite?
Report ponchoslament June 30, 2025 9:46 PM BST
Hulk, problem gambling is problem gambling, where ever you do your dough, obviously slots and
casino and the fobt’s are  obviously the hard core and  well designed gambling
Products, ruthlessly marketed to exploit thé most venerable?? No company should
Be able to behave like this ? And completely ruin peoples lives
Report CagliariG June 30, 2025 9:51 PM BST
Poke a highness have you and your idiotic cohorts never worked out that a bookie laid odds that Jesus would not survive the night on the cross and you lumped on that he would?

Then went for the double that he would come back and you would be paid out on 31/12/2024?

Have you been paid yet?
Report hulk23 June 30, 2025 9:52 PM BST
you can't have a "problem" online unless some cnts sitting watching you lose a 'problem' amount and doing fk all to address it. 

which they clearly are.
Report hulk23 June 30, 2025 9:54 PM BST
if you're winning online you are the problem.  and you'll be swiftly dealt with.
Report CagliariG June 30, 2025 9:54 PM BST
Never mind the fact that this particular case is donkeys years ago?

Why let facts get in the way of reality Hulk et al?
Report ponchoslament June 30, 2025 10:05 PM BST
Jesus Cag, you have definitely drifted into the arena of the unwell
Report ponchoslament June 30, 2025 10:09 PM BST
Last comment on the  Issue from  me, to  Mitolo, was it
Acceptable for Betfair to take 1.5 million off this punter  without asking
Any questions, or intervening at any time ???
Report CagliariG June 30, 2025 10:11 PM BST
I was  unwell until 1410 hrs pokey but feel better than for 2 years!!

What is your excuse for being a thick moronic entity........IYO?
Report ponchoslament June 30, 2025 10:21 PM BST
Oh, he's inverted now
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 30, 2025 10:34 PM BST
https://iclg.com/news/21915-gambler-fails-to-pin-blame-for-losses-on-operator

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Report Rico-Dangleflaps June 30, 2025 11:16 PM BST
Report Rico-Dangleflaps June 30, 2025 11:16 PM BST
Report Rico-Dangleflaps June 30, 2025 11:18 PM BST
Report uptheirons July 1, 2025 12:35 AM BST
People are entirely responsible for their own actions whatever they are.
Nanny State gone mad with encouragement from the Anti Gambling Commission led  by clueless morons with zero experience in gambling.
An absolute laughing stock to the rest of the World
Report stu July 1, 2025 2:12 AM BST
The problem is that gambling is a fairly unique issue in many ways. The closest comparison is investments and business ventures, but mostly they are slow and longer term, and not as closely related to 'buzz' etc.

Gambling is one of the very few ways individuals can lump money rapidly into bets, lose it, and keep going immediately that way...In the most extreme cases that can ruin a person's life, very literally.

What really annoys me is that while the media are hand-wringing about some poor gambler case, there is adverts all over the place banging on about some bingo or free-spins, or free awful value bet, filth - and that is everywhere, despite the supposed 'concerns' about gambling.

If society is really concerned about gambling, then fecking well stop the 'moron gambler hunting' that keeps endlessly happening across all media, and is encouraged to grow! Either that, or let's just go back to letting anyone do what they want.
Report stu July 1, 2025 2:17 AM BST
I've just realised I said all that and didn't even mention scratch cards - holding up every normal shopping queue while the person decides how many number 7's and number 5's they want to buy with their remaining cash in the purse - but of course, that is just fine...
Report Rico-Dangleflaps July 1, 2025 11:15 AM BST
smoking/gambling/drugs/alcohol

all ruin lives...wonce you're in you're in for life.

#brutal.
Report uptheirons July 1, 2025 12:22 PM BST
Can ruin lives Rico.
Drugs are illegal.
Are responsible people to be punished because of a relatively small percentage of addicts?
Report hulk23 July 1, 2025 12:26 PM BST
Should responsible horse racing gamblers be punished because of a relatively small percentage of FOBT addicts?

should tesco stop selling paracetamol because of a relatively small percentage of crack cocaine addicts ?
Report swiftynifty July 1, 2025 12:53 PM BST
If a man comes home without the housekeeping to give to the wife, a gambling company can't be held responsible for that. It is totally the man's fault for a complete lack of self control and for marrying the wrong woman.
Report howard July 1, 2025 1:00 PM BST
should have married a dominatrix you mean ?
Report uptheirons July 1, 2025 1:11 PM BST
Many people have lost everything they owned on the Stock Exchange without any interference from the GC
Report swiftynifty July 1, 2025 1:45 PM BST
In recent examples where people have asked to self-exclude but have been able to continue using their account that is the company's responsibilty, self-exclusion should mean account closure and they're very good at that with normal punters.
Report stu July 1, 2025 2:40 PM BST
I agree on that irons, and oddly they have also started to increase advertising I think - etoro etc.

Advertising in gambling/trading is the key issue IMO - but for all the new movements we've seen that is one area that manages to go untouched mostly.
Report stu July 1, 2025 2:48 PM BST
When I say agree, I mean I agree that is equally a problem gambling area, but one that goes unregulated mostly.

The stats are something like about 90+% of home based stock traders on the stock market lose cash. That might be even worse than areas like sports gambling. I'm pretty sure there will have been suicides in those areas, so what is the reason it gets treated different?
Report stu July 1, 2025 3:20 PM BST
https://business-school.open.ac.uk/news/stock-market-crashes-linked-higher-rates-suicide-%E2%80%93-new-research

Just one example from a search - it is no different from the argument about controlling gambling basically.
Report stu July 1, 2025 3:25 PM BST
Interesting study as they basically isolate the effect it would have on traders with financial risk too in their method:

In our paper, we take all of these factors into account and isolate cleanly the influence of stock market movements. Even if market crashes typically overlap with periods of economic recession, they appear to generate an impact on voluntary deaths in their own right.
Report The Management July 1, 2025 3:34 PM BST
Off the top of my head - a couple of differences between gambling and trading the stock exchange:

Does the Stock Market offer you free spins on payday (after you have self excluded)?

If you start out trading the FTSE100, do they try to entice you into trading Junk Bonds instead?

If your shares go up and you make a profit, do they prevent you withdrawing your profit until you have gone through their counter-terrorist protocol?

Does the Stock Exchange restrict or close the accounts of winning traders?
Report stu July 1, 2025 4:43 PM BST
Not identical, but I read a book by guy called Chris Stringman about the stock spread betting side, and how they will hold their 'seminars' in order to get you hooked into it, and offer certain incentives to come back once you leave.

I realise that spread betting is slightly different, but fairly sure there is marketing e.g. etoro and other services.

I've never done it, so someone else could probably tell us more about their marketing.
Report stu July 1, 2025 4:46 PM BST
I mean never actually traded on the stock market - I have spread bet however.
Report ponchoslament July 1, 2025 6:28 PM BST
Look all these analogy’s with shopping, scratch cards, alcohol, stock market etc,Is
Fcuking  meaningless, none of tge above, can be be remotely controlled
Or regulated. Thé bookies on the other hand have the ability to see what people are losing, on the fcuking
Screens in front of them, it’s completely visable, and totally transparent. They do fcuk all, until
The punters exhausts all their deng. The trawl for the next gen  of problem punters, and the cycle repeats

Shitolo, I give up on you, I really do, with your, people are responsible for their own actions, are you some sort
Of mental cripple, of course there are problem gamblers, they lose every fcuking penny they have, they
Ruin their lives, thé is family’s lives, they lose their lives, and they are relentlessly pursued and exploited by the sewer rat bookies.

Conversely, if you turn up in a matching pair of socks, or dont loe quickly enough over
A range of markets, you are barred, restricted and fcuked. Bookmakers are pure filth, scum, they
Have no social conscience whatsoever. FFS
Report mitolo July 1, 2025 6:33 PM BST
some terrible anallegies their

youve clearly dun it in
Report mitolo July 1, 2025 6:33 PM BST
allergy!
Report uptheirons July 1, 2025 6:33 PM BST
There have always been problem gamblers/drinkers etc.
The Books continue to run rings around the hapless and clueless GC.
The Aussies don't stand for it from the same Companies
Report stu July 1, 2025 6:56 PM BST
relentlessly pursued and exploited by the sewer rat bookies.

yep, this is my point about advertising - that would at least help if addressed.

most advertising of gambling is for the worst kinds, slots rubbish, bingo rubbish, casino rubbish. Also probably the most addictive and well used by problem gambler types.
Report ponchoslament July 1, 2025 7:00 PM BST
Exactly irons, thé fraud of men was ever so, since summer
First was leafy
Report CaptainCristy July 1, 2025 7:00 PM BST
Most stupid thing I’ve seen is the people working behind the counters watching the fools piling their money into FOBT’s all day. Next thing you’ll see them over the road in another bookie on the FOBT!
Report CaptainCristy July 1, 2025 7:00 PM BST
The counter people that is..
Report ponchoslament July 1, 2025 7:06 PM BST
The bottom line with these fcukers, is you can lose
Lose everything fcuking penny you have, and all that goes with it
If you beat SP, you can fcuk off, online betting was their ultimate
Gift from the gods

Shitolo, I asked you a question, which you swerved, was it acceptable for thst
Poor fcuking punter to lose 1.5 million ?? Are you ok with that ??

Im apologising now for some of my French, still on holly days, had
A few slurps already todst, no offence ment
Report mitolo July 1, 2025 7:16 PM BST
haha. yore sum man

yes i am if he didnt nick it
Report ponchoslament July 1, 2025 7:19 PM BST
lol, your right, sorry, he’s a fcuking thieving bastid too
As well….as having other issues Crazy
Report Rico-Dangleflaps July 1, 2025 8:06 PM BST
rarely if ever hear about someone stealing money to gambling and winning big.
Report ponchoslament July 1, 2025 8:16 PM BST
No rico you don’t, thsts why thé nick the cutter in the first place ??
Report mitolo July 1, 2025 8:25 PM BST
yes
Report Rico-Dangleflaps July 1, 2025 8:33 PM BST
sew,dus noone ever win with stolen dosh?
Report mitolo July 1, 2025 8:43 PM BST
si

but they soon iron it out. it seems like a freebie so they go right at it. i did
Report Rico-Dangleflaps July 1, 2025 8:48 PM BST
wd
Report stu July 2, 2025 12:39 AM BST
Just as a random aside, was this guy in the article one of the market 'bombers' we've seen in the past I wonder.

We always wondered where they came from.
Report hulk23 July 2, 2025 5:54 AM BST
sew,dus noone ever win with stolen dosh?

you did not bad with the dosh from the stolen safes
Report Rico-Dangleflaps July 2, 2025 9:41 AM BST
blew the lot in the 80's ulk..
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