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Sure, exposed 8yo but obvious chance at his fav track and trip.
8/1+ after the drift, some valoo there.
8/1+ after the drift, some valoo there.
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33/1 last time and should have won the drift that day meant nothing
Not seen him carry his head like that before not his regular jockey but still ran well the winner was very well treated with big gossey on Greenland stakes run
yes did too much too early, nothing went on, pretty unusual for this type of race
relatively interesting he is running two days in a row here. ran pretty flat yesterday, unusually for him here. some money about. I am on today after swerving yesterday.
thought it was a bizarre race to start out with
against elder horses but who am I to question AOB
against elder horses but who am I to question AOB
The other one I backed back in July was second today as well 
I think he finished 7th. A mile? Almost a zero chance despite the soft to heavy ground today. Could he be retired post this race? Another drubbing his stallion value will be negatively impacted.
Anybody who backed the fav on the back of AOB's comments deserves to lose
AOB uses the racecourse as extended training. They all do to an extent, but he is tops.
Little to no chance of winning the 2000G. Sprinting next more like. What distance was Pegasus renowned for?
Which of O'Brien's 2000G winners was the last one to have a prep run?
Thought he usually sends them straight to Newmarket?
Thought he usually sends them straight to Newmarket?
If he is actually their #1 2G horse then we can forget about today. imo.
Perhaps he is trying to pull the double bluff as the horse was plenty keen enough early?
Trust them at your peril
Trust them at your peril
In the interview with the voice, it doesn't like going slow, he thinks it's a sprinter. but ultimately up to the lads :)
"The Lads" whose average age must be in the seventies
One thing I’ll remind you all of is that when TLIW ran in the Dante he pulled & that was blamed for throwing his race away.
Be wary of the same excuse twice.
Be wary of the same excuse twice.
Reflecting on Albert Einstein's disappointing display in the Gladness, O'Brien said: "I think he’s a sprinter and that was a little bit of the reason he was here. It was a very tough call to run him in that ground against older, hardier horses. Obviously we just have to do the right thing by the horse.
"He’s always found it very hard to go slow. Some horses find it very hard to go quick but he finds it very hard to go slow. Usually that kind of horse needs a very strong tempo early. The lads will decide but my initial thought is that he’ll be coming back and he’ll go sprinting."
He added: "It’s a very difficult thing to run against those horses in that bad ground. If you have an older, strong horse, they can maul a three-year-old. He was travelling very strong and in that ground you’d have preferred that he would be travelling a gear or two lower.
"He’s naturally just not able to do that. His tempo is so quick, he is a very high-tempo horse. It was in the back of my mind that this is a big sprinter."
When asked if he could work back from the Commonwealth Cup, O'Brien said: "Yes, that's very possible now. Obviously we’ll go and talk to the lads and see what they want to do, but there is a very good chance that’s the route he’s going to go.
"He will definitely have another run before the Commonwealth Cup. The sprinters are coming here [for a racecourse gallop] tomorrow – Charles Darwin, Brussels and a few others – they are all three-year-old sprinters as well and this fella will add into the mix there. This fella was always a bit different, but we'll see.
O'Brien had spent most of the last year waxing lyrical about the powerful son of Wootton Basset, hailing his speed as "frightening". He remains convinced the colt is special.
"He's a horse who has always excited us and I'd say he still will," the trainer said. "I know what this horse is able to do. He's so big and when Ryan sat up on him he could not believe the width of him. He's 560kg going down into that ground. He's a lot bigger than the horses he was racing against who are probably 460kg or 470kg. This guy is a monster and being that big in heavy ground is very difficult for him.
"I was happy with the way he behaved. He didn't do anything wrong, only that he was travelling a gear or two high, and then when he got tired he didn't fall in a hole, he kept plugging away. That will do his character the world of good. He got tired and he had to keep going."
He added: "I have it in my head that he will go back in trip but it will depend on what the lads want to do. I think that's what will be happening, but nothing is set in stone. We'll get tomorrow over us with the other horses and see then.
"Our option was to play it safe, let him come up here tomorrow, get a little bit tired and finish in the middle of them and then we'd go on to the Guineas and see what would happen.
"When you go back and think of the Stravinskys and the Mozarts and all them, I saw what they would do over seven furlongs. We're learning on the job."
"He’s always found it very hard to go slow. Some horses find it very hard to go quick but he finds it very hard to go slow. Usually that kind of horse needs a very strong tempo early. The lads will decide but my initial thought is that he’ll be coming back and he’ll go sprinting."
He added: "It’s a very difficult thing to run against those horses in that bad ground. If you have an older, strong horse, they can maul a three-year-old. He was travelling very strong and in that ground you’d have preferred that he would be travelling a gear or two lower.
"He’s naturally just not able to do that. His tempo is so quick, he is a very high-tempo horse. It was in the back of my mind that this is a big sprinter."
When asked if he could work back from the Commonwealth Cup, O'Brien said: "Yes, that's very possible now. Obviously we’ll go and talk to the lads and see what they want to do, but there is a very good chance that’s the route he’s going to go.
"He will definitely have another run before the Commonwealth Cup. The sprinters are coming here [for a racecourse gallop] tomorrow – Charles Darwin, Brussels and a few others – they are all three-year-old sprinters as well and this fella will add into the mix there. This fella was always a bit different, but we'll see.
O'Brien had spent most of the last year waxing lyrical about the powerful son of Wootton Basset, hailing his speed as "frightening". He remains convinced the colt is special.
"He's a horse who has always excited us and I'd say he still will," the trainer said. "I know what this horse is able to do. He's so big and when Ryan sat up on him he could not believe the width of him. He's 560kg going down into that ground. He's a lot bigger than the horses he was racing against who are probably 460kg or 470kg. This guy is a monster and being that big in heavy ground is very difficult for him.
"I was happy with the way he behaved. He didn't do anything wrong, only that he was travelling a gear or two high, and then when he got tired he didn't fall in a hole, he kept plugging away. That will do his character the world of good. He got tired and he had to keep going."
He added: "I have it in my head that he will go back in trip but it will depend on what the lads want to do. I think that's what will be happening, but nothing is set in stone. We'll get tomorrow over us with the other horses and see then.
"Our option was to play it safe, let him come up here tomorrow, get a little bit tired and finish in the middle of them and then we'd go on to the Guineas and see what would happen.
"When you go back and think of the Stravinskys and the Mozarts and all them, I saw what they would do over seven furlongs. We're learning on the job."
Just checked and all ten of O'Brien's 2000gns winners went straight to Newmarket without a prep run, so evidently not his M.O to be giving his main Guineas hope a prep run against grizzled older opposition on bad ground.
AOB is a Stallion promoter and as such most he says can be taken with an extremely large pinch of salt,at best
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