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8 minutes to the off before first betting show on screen. Blah, blah , blah. Let's interview the horse next.
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Johnny Murtagh "Gstaad looked like he might have been just out for the run FTO at Naas" 
I have to say that the coverage on ITV today was the worst that I’ve ever seen!
Who cares for an interview with Penny Lancaster and whoever that was with her?
How can you miss the start to the Kings Stand???.
Very poor and it’s like they skipped from race to race for the bookies on a Saturday without showing us any horses.
I didn’t like Baldin but her and Carson put these lot to shame. Disgraceful from the Beeb to ditch what they were actually great at.
Who cares for an interview with Penny Lancaster and whoever that was with her?
How can you miss the start to the Kings Stand???.
Very poor and it’s like they skipped from race to race for the bookies on a Saturday without showing us any horses.
I didn’t like Baldin but her and Carson put these lot to shame. Disgraceful from the Beeb to ditch what they were actually great at.
She might prefer if he was encased in something rigid like Hans Solo!
agree Del , i detest balding but bbc should hold their head in shame, dont even think they had the races on radio 5 extra , shocking , talktalk had radio comm which was better than itv
They were terrible and I hope that they realise how shocking it was to miss the start of a Group 1 because they were so focused on one horse.
Ed the tooth you often talk of jocks fronting up - time for you to do so tomorrow.
Between at the races with their greasy looking unbathed senior form analyst and the rest was a total shambles today.
they really talk down to people watching like they are halfwits. If you watch the football you don’t expect to be told what the offside law is or who exactly is Pep Guardiola but that is the sort of dumbed down level they are at.
theyre trying to appease the young kids, but how the hell are they even there let alone watch it, its school term
Given that they were seemingly trying to portray the meeting as something for everyone thought that was brilliant when Oily braved the toffs picnic area.
If the King Stand was first evidence of less tolerance of unruly behaviour behind the stalls, I'm all for it. Fine the trainers as well. I would have every confirmed Royal Ascot runner pass a stalls test. Yes, there would be more non-runners but why not have more reserves and confirm the final decs on the eve of the race, as they used to?
I haven't seen the first day so poorly attended for a generation (admittedly from tv).
One of the great bugbears of viewers is the spectacle of horses being forced against their will into stalls: their message is that they don't want to do this and for the wider audience - who are watching the loading process for longer than they are watching the race - the pre-race spectacle them uncomfortable. Or bored. It's obvious.
I haven't seen the first day so poorly attended for a generation (admittedly from tv).
One of the great bugbears of viewers is the spectacle of horses being forced against their will into stalls: their message is that they don't want to do this and for the wider audience - who are watching the loading process for longer than they are watching the race - the pre-race spectacle them uncomfortable. Or bored. It's obvious.
The stalls handlers are less and more efficient in France. Ex rugby players and boar fed fellas
They just lift Luke a scrum and it’s quite beautiful, not German efficiency because it’s enjoyed
Watched it in the pub today and overall its getting worse and worse
Get Gary Wiltshire or Simon Nott in the ring at least they both know the layers and get some comments from them, might never be as good as Big Mac but must be an improvement on Brian Gleeson.
Don't need Luke Harvey down at the start fumbling about what does he bring to the table?
Chapman is Chapman and at least he is passionate about the game.
Mentioned this name before as she was an excellent pundit who found many big priced winners during her stint on Aus racing and had a good following over in Oz.
Lizzie Jelphs started out working at racing yards in Lambourn and was a former pro tennis player and won the Magnolia Cup at Goodwood Festival she worked for many years in Aus with trainer David Hayes. She knows her horses!
Think Big Ed got lucky getting his role on the show but think about time his luck run out.
Would replace him with Nick Luck if he was available and wanted the job.
I love horse racing and watch races from most tracks most days but producers of this programme need wise up but while I'm typing this they all probably in some top hotel near Ascot all patting each other on the back thinking they produced an excellent show!
Get Gary Wiltshire or Simon Nott in the ring at least they both know the layers and get some comments from them, might never be as good as Big Mac but must be an improvement on Brian Gleeson.
Don't need Luke Harvey down at the start fumbling about what does he bring to the table?
Chapman is Chapman and at least he is passionate about the game.
Mentioned this name before as she was an excellent pundit who found many big priced winners during her stint on Aus racing and had a good following over in Oz.
Lizzie Jelphs started out working at racing yards in Lambourn and was a former pro tennis player and won the Magnolia Cup at Goodwood Festival she worked for many years in Aus with trainer David Hayes. She knows her horses!
Think Big Ed got lucky getting his role on the show but think about time his luck run out.
Would replace him with Nick Luck if he was available and wanted the job.
I love horse racing and watch races from most tracks most days but producers of this programme need wise up but while I'm typing this they all probably in some top hotel near Ascot all patting each other on the back thinking they produced an excellent show!
2 more favs and 2 more losers from TOM COULDNT TIP **** OFF A SHOVEL
that's 3 favs and a 2nd fav he,s put up in 4 days,obviously been told to put a winner up or your out,all 4 lost
that's 3 favs and a 2nd fav he,s put up in 4 days,obviously been told to put a winner up or your out,all 4 lost
If they are going to bother to show the sing-song then you would think it would be obligatory to actually join in. Has Francesca ever sang a note? Perhaps Persad and Francesca could make up for today's debacle by duetting tomorrow?
Agreed Dela. In the words of the great man - “Natural enthusiasm! We are nothing without it”!
The great man was of course Bill Shankly.
The great man was of course Bill Shankly.
c4 was far from faultless but it was a million miles better than itv, its absolute dog turd, basically unwatchable bar the actual race.
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2 more favs and 2 more losers from TOM COULDNT TIP **** OFF A SHOVEL
that's 3 favs and a 2nd fav he,s put up in 4 days,obviously been told to put a winner up or your out,all 4 lost
TT, Still well in profit + 13.2 pts, But dont let the facts get in the way of a good Seethe.
2 more favs and 2 more losers from TOM COULDNT TIP **** OFF A SHOVEL
that's 3 favs and a 2nd fav he,s put up in 4 days,obviously been told to put a winner up or your out,all 4 lost
TT, Still well in profit + 13.2 pts, But dont let the facts get in the way of a good Seethe.
Why all the criticism?? They are not perfect and I like some of the regulars ,not all ,but people reminiscing about the old BBC coverage with Wilson O'Sullivan,Lindley , Pitman etc forget that it was very dry and humourless actually .There is at least a bit of banter nowadays .
just read on X TOM saying day ended well ,tipping the last fav
when someone answered I never saw you put that up anywhere
TOM replied I didn't back it myself but did say it would win, FFS
when someone answered I never saw you put that up anywhere
TOM replied I didn't back it myself but did say it would win, FFS
+ 13.2 pts ...... Rave On.
What do YOU fancy Today ?? Not seen you post any Pre Race.
What do YOU fancy Today ?? Not seen you post any Pre Race.
Snowy - what else used to really píss me off about BBC coverage was that they didn't give a shít about
showing us recordings of off-air races at big meetings they were covering...or the top foreign stuff.
We could all see just how much of an irritation Royal Ascot was to the BBC production team who were obviously
so peeved to leave the cricket and rejoin coverage of a top race as the last nag was entering the stalls,
but all we ever used to hear was that they were fully committed to racing...but they most definitely were NOT.
They'd regularly show you a recording of the last 100 yards of a top race, which was infuriating & inexcusable
(though we were lucky to get that!) - then Ch4 Racing came along and embarrassed BBC's shít coverage as they
were a breath of fresh air, with a panel of fully committed racing enthusiasts who aired as much as they could.
I always remember Francome saying how grateful the team were to Ch4 producer Andrew Franklin as he did his utmost
to show us extensive coverage of The Arc meeting & The Breeders' Cup - I don't even know what the guy looks like
but it sounds like real racing fans have him to thank for sending BBC's appalling racing coverage to Room 101.
showing us recordings of off-air races at big meetings they were covering...or the top foreign stuff.
We could all see just how much of an irritation Royal Ascot was to the BBC production team who were obviously
so peeved to leave the cricket and rejoin coverage of a top race as the last nag was entering the stalls,
but all we ever used to hear was that they were fully committed to racing...but they most definitely were NOT.
They'd regularly show you a recording of the last 100 yards of a top race, which was infuriating & inexcusable
(though we were lucky to get that!) - then Ch4 Racing came along and embarrassed BBC's shít coverage as they
were a breath of fresh air, with a panel of fully committed racing enthusiasts who aired as much as they could.
I always remember Francome saying how grateful the team were to Ch4 producer Andrew Franklin as he did his utmost
to show us extensive coverage of The Arc meeting & The Breeders' Cup - I don't even know what the guy looks like
but it sounds like real racing fans have him to thank for sending BBC's appalling racing coverage to Room 101.
Snowynoon missing the start of a race because you’re so focused on one runner is atrocious. They fail to show the horses beforehand and it’s something that we should have not just focusing again as they did on Field Of Gold. They should put aside their preferences and by more neutral with regards that.
I like the banter, the team and the time analysis that Hoiles has been doing is very insightful. Racing is a world sport now and has been for a few years and I feel that they could incorporate a section to that. To keep viewers informed. Also enjoy Home Schooling!
I like the banter, the team and the time analysis that Hoiles has been doing is very insightful. Racing is a world sport now and has been for a few years and I feel that they could incorporate a section to that. To keep viewers informed. Also enjoy Home Schooling!
Agree that was sloppy camera /direction yesterday missing that ,and they have Luke down at the start who didn't even know the horse was withdrawn !!They could do without him down at start ,agree that brings nothing .
Just watching the Opening Show and am shocked to see Rishi has gone turn coat! Was waxing lyrical about 4/1 for Fallen Angel last weekend and now goes for the Godolphin filly!
Chapman had just interviewed Karl Burk and was also purring about the 4’s! The bookies then cut her!
Yeah not sure what Luke was doing?! Thank goodness the camera wasn’t hard of hearing or he’d not of turned left when he heard the gates open!
Chapman had just interviewed Karl Burk and was also purring about the 4’s! The bookies then cut her!
Yeah not sure what Luke was doing?! Thank goodness the camera wasn’t hard of hearing or he’d not of turned left when he heard the gates open!
tipping Tom spent last 2 hrs on sky telling people you don't want to be backing favs in hunt cup,Windsor castle etc,
he,s put up 2nd fav in both instead,
put up shortest horse running on TV on sat
put up 2 favs yesterday
and claimed a winner putting favup in last yesterday,despite admitting he didn't back it,
makes nevo sound like Hugh Taylor,
as I've backed Johnson's in buckingham hope he gets one today
he,s put up 2nd fav in both instead
,put up shortest horse running on TV on sat
put up 2 favs yesterday
and claimed a winner putting favup in last yesterday,despite admitting he didn't back it,
makes nevo sound like Hugh Taylor
, as I've backed Johnson's in buckingham hope he gets one today
+ 13.2 pts ...... Rave On.
What do YOU fancy Today ?? Not seen you post any Pre Race.
What do YOU fancy Today ?? Not seen you post any Pre Race.
itv, Trying to talk above a Brass Band ... not a good idea.!!
Poor ol Luke, had to keep his hat on this Morning, Got his Slap Head sun burnt Yesterday. 
So jeff banks thinks he might do his money ?? Not laying 15/8 that are 9/4 on the machine you wont. !! ****.
Royal Ascot is an “escape” for so many people! Really?! I’ll let all the food bank attendees and pensioners without pension without heating allowances know.
They’ll be thrilled.
And I so wish they would stop calling this woman “The” Queen. There was only one THE Queen!
They’ll be thrilled.
And I so wish they would stop calling this woman “The” Queen. There was only one THE Queen!
Completely agree L.H.
"Queen Camilla" ffs. Nah, not having that at all.
Not on my watch.
"Queen Camilla" ffs. Nah, not having that at all.
Not on my watch.
I either turn the sound down during all the banal stuff that is spouted (fashion rubbish etc.), or change channels to another channel that covers the event.
You’re right, we all have that option and often I do but was otherwise attentive and just forgot to do so.
Nice interview there with an unprivileged owner ( Carmers ) who appreciates their good luck. Thrilled is the word. And why not.
Nice interview there with an unprivileged owner ( Carmers ) who appreciates their good luck. Thrilled is the word. And why not.
LoyalHoncho 18 Jun 25 15:21
You’re right, we all have that option and often I do but was otherwise attentive and just forgot to do so.
Nice interview there with an unprivileged owner ( Carmers ) who appreciates their good luck. Thrilled is the word. And why not.
Ffs this pr! K is everywhere…..
You’re right, we all have that option and often I do but was otherwise attentive and just forgot to do so.
Nice interview there with an unprivileged owner ( Carmers ) who appreciates their good luck. Thrilled is the word. And why not.
Ffs this pr! K is everywhere…..
20.000 cash on the 3.40 fav , it would take ages to count the money ,
, it would take ages to count the money ,
One thing we have to remember, bearing in mind I did prefer BBC for racing........ they had no adverts, did not have to worry about bookmakers as much. ITV are trying to cater for everyone owing to advertising and appealing to the yoof.
Imagine parting with 20 large ones, punter not heard of Bitcoin.
seriously what youths are they appealing too, most are now inschool/ college , i betnot many are even waching tbh
They were a bit better today, after the dodgy start, doing the opening by the band! Yet they didn’t show Map Of Stars or See The Fire in the pre parade (it wasn’t a big field), the former drifted badly so it’s nice to see what he was up to in there.
Agree queen sounds weird and I only picture one lady in my mind when I hear it.
Look forwards to Hoiles doing his time bit the POW!!
Agree queen sounds weird and I only picture one lady in my mind when I hear it.
Look forwards to Hoiles doing his time bit the POW!!
Never mind the horses
..will the princess of Wales be able to accompany old sausage fingers and his old tart?
..will the princess of Wales be able to accompany old sausage fingers and his old tart?
another 4 down the toilet from tipping **** of a shovel yesterday, so having spent 3 hrs on sky racing yesterday telling people not to back these shorties at top of the markets ,he,s put up
trawler man at 15 to 8
English oak 11 to 2
trawler man at 15 to 8
English oak 11 to 2
Turning the sound off and listening to the Betfair live feed cuts out the amateur gassing ITV Racing thrives on.
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another 4 down the toilet from tipping **** of a shovel yesterday, so having spent 3 hrs on sky racing yesterday telling people not to back these shorties at top of the markets ,he,s put up
trawler man at 15 to 8
English oak 11 to 2
What programme were you watching ?? You missed the 17/2 winner ( Arabian Story
) and Trawlerman was a lot bigger price when he posted. Try concentrating if you follow him Tomorrow.
another 4 down the toilet from tipping **** of a shovel yesterday, so having spent 3 hrs on sky racing yesterday telling people not to back these shorties at top of the markets ,he,s put up
trawler man at 15 to 8
English oak 11 to 2
What programme were you watching ?? You missed the 17/2 winner ( Arabian Story
) and Trawlerman was a lot bigger price when he posted. Try concentrating if you follow him Tomorrow.
The guy who had two winners from 3 yesterday - BUT has as bad a comb over as Rydz the Darts player!
Acey or someone can you dig up the photos for comparison!
Acey or someone can you dig up the photos for comparison!
They could improve my enjoyment of their product by introducing one simple change to the graphics they show us immediately pre-start.
As they show us the latest odds they could (in brackets) display the DRAW number of each/the horses shown, alongside their number.
A minor change would make for a significant improvement.
No more checking the RP feverishly as they are going in!
As they show us the latest odds they could (in brackets) display the DRAW number of each/the horses shown, alongside their number.
A minor change would make for a significant improvement.
No more checking the RP feverishly as they are going in!
Good points Loyal and also add the distance of races esp when they are showing previous form clips in relation to the current race being talked about.
And yesterday Ed saying what a shame Hayley missed the win on Docklands...If she'd been on it wouldn't have won..
@ALIEN SEX FIEND - 'Bitcoin'? What race is that horse running in?
interviewing Fearne mccann now
, might as well get katie price on
, might as well get katie price on
"Don't back low draw horses " shouts that clown Luke Harvey earlier ,first 2 winners drawn 1 ,you couldn't make it up !
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And I so wish they would stop calling this woman “The” Queen. There was only one THE Queen!
That would be apart from the previous several then?
And I so wish they would stop calling this woman “The” Queen. There was only one THE Queen!
That would be apart from the previous several then?
Don’t be so pedantic, the meaning was quite clear.
Still with the chip I see.
Still with the chip I see.
Drawn 2 ,thanks for the advice at start Luke ,that's why we pay these experts .
lol. Not laughing at you and any losses just the roughing up wee Luke is getting today. Be lucky.
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