Did byrness son jump off there at last , charles didn't want it today , it looks like he purposely f

Soft fall purposely done

You couldn't be with these tricksters

They probably got big price on fav in run too

I Didn't think Byrnes could shock me any more but this is ridiculous. Action needed immediately.

Can you not use the thread that was already up instead of talking to yourself?

Lifetime ban for the 2 is the only way to go. This has been going on forever. They totally crossed the line this time. 13-8 out to 6s. Wow not even trying to hide it. What's that ****er o'ryan got to say...

May 28, 2025 -- 5:06PM, slickster wrote:

Lifetime ban for the 2 is the only way to go. This has been going on forever. They totally crossed the line this time. 13-8 out to 6s. Wow not even trying to hide it. What's that ****er o'ryan got to say...

Agree

Byrnes and Martin taking the **ss for decades. Cannot understand how both STILL have licences to be anywhere near racehorses. Anyone with a brain knows they should be charged and jailed.

And the silence from the racing TV stooges is thoroughly sickening.

And isn't daddy a great role model corrupting his son. Absolutely disgusting carry on.

how can racing presenters LITEFOOT on a subscription channel not have an opinion on that race, embarrassing

Oh yeah any chance of a replay????? LOL.

You really expect RTV to make a possibly slanderous accusation there?
Bear in mind,if taken to court the onus would be to prove it.
Byrnes is a thoroughly rancid individual who should not hold a licence and I never back his horses

rishi whitewash persad now in studio, weighed weighed in,take,m away

Not moved to comment in here very often but yeah...that was awful, awful, awful.

O'ryan yapping away as usual as if nothing happened. Maybe he didn't see it ha haaa.

Anybody hear if the Byrnes were called to the stewards room?

They can discuss the drift, the soft unseat, that the horse didn't hit the hurdle, that professionals don't tend to fall of horses that didn't make a mistake, let alone when only needing to jump the last to win.

You can have your own odds on that

tom daley has sent them a congratulations

Strange how mouthy Kevin interviewed NOBODY after the race. He's normally yapping away to everyone. Making an absolute fool of himself. AGAIN.

I remember many years byrnes had 2 in bumper and the jockey yanked it from winning to let other one won , it was comical,  the second would have won by 10l if allowed it to win

how can racing presenters LITEFOOT on a subscription channel not have an opinion

Kind of reasons I'd never dream of giving them a penny to subscribe - pointless, whenever actually needed. They never breathe a word about the worst rides that happen...

thats not why you subscribe though^

True, they waffle rubbish at other times too, would not waste a moment listening to it. Certainly not pay for it.

Looked to jump high and round,jockey thrust forward,then over balanced,when straightened up.

They tend to slide off the side of the saddle in slow motion ,not this,look a good unseat

Winner had him covered, Jockey / trainer won the race last year, nothing to see hear

After he jumped the 2nd last he seemed very interested in looking at the infield for some reason, don’t know if there is a screen there. Kevin was saying he ‘was stealing a peak’ at what exactly? There was nothing there except the ambulance.

Should have been a police car to cart the 2 vile individuals off to jail never mind the nick.

I didn't have a bet on this race (first for disclosure) so neutral view that way.

But, it looks very dodgy as an unseat to me - the leg movements in particular, unnatural if trying to jump and win the race.

Interesting however, that it was a very odd ride if trying to get beat, why go to the front like that in the first place?

he had 33lb to find with winner,thought they could run a race and FAV still sail by,hence the look before the last ,saw the fav wasn't pishing up so jumped off to make certain

May 28, 2025 -- 5:40PM, stu wrote:

I didn't have a bet on this race (first for disclosure) so neutral view that way.But, it looks very dodgy as an unseat to me - the leg movements in particular, unnatural if trying to jump and win the race.Interesting however, that it was a very odd ride if trying to get beat, why go to the front like that in the first place?

I assumed it was to run the horse out of gas in an already good gallop. Then he could say the horse has pulled too hard and ran out of legs. Unfortunately for him the fav needs further and doesn't have the pace, and the rest were rubbish.

On the replay I saw, as he jumps the last byrnes has both legs in the air as he jumps it, clear and obvious.

Sort of discussion that would have been interesting in the channel coverage this, isn't it...? Using their video replays and expertise etc...?

Oh hang on....

Kevin was commenting on it afterwards, for once seemed lost for words

He muttered some words yes, not sure it would count as commenting on it or not

Where's  angoose to dissect the race when you need him.

Kev would come up with any excuse for a jockey imv.

He blurted out that he wouldn’t be very happy with it. I’m not sure if he meant that he made it too obvious.

Blimey, that's close to wind there I missed those words Captain, lol

beacon edge 5/6 to 1/3
redwood queen 13/8 to 13/2

May 28, 2025 -- 5:45PM, CaptainCristy wrote:

On the replay I saw, as he jumps the last byrnes has both legs in the air as he jumps it, clear and obvious.

not often I subscribe to this sort of view but that was deliberate imo

In the words of ruby walsh,why would you jump of a horse at 30mph,risking life and limb.

There’s 100 easier ways to lose,if his legs are up,it’s cos the horses head was high before the hurdle,
It reared up before hurdle,jumped high over hurdle,rounded down low after hurdle,unseated jockey.

The stuntman is a hypocrite. He perfected it to a fine art. Greed makes people do the wrong things.

it was his last option other than pulling up/not riding out on run-in,hence the look before the last

May 28, 2025 -- 6:39PM, comingupthehill wrote:

In the words of ruby walsh,why would you jump of a horse at 30mph,risking life and limb.There’s 100 easier ways to lose,if his legs are up,it’s cos the horses head was high before the hurdle,It reared up before hurdle,jumped high over hurdle,rounded down low after hurdle,unseated jockey.

They will do anything for money, I guess the drift from 13/8 to 13/2 doesn’t ring an alarm bell at all?

Even in these cases there are still some of the apologists around trying....says it all really.

In the words of ruby walsh,why would you jump of a horse at 30mph,risking life and limb.


Cos you've practiced it a hundred times at home?

Spyker ,why not jump off at the 2nd last,or half way round.

Spyker nails it. He knows how to fall. Worked for the green mob. Jumped off many odds on favourites. And knew how to do it ensuring no serious injury unless he was incredibly unlucky. Bookie greed is a terrible thing. The stuntman knew what he was doing.

May 28, 2025 -- 7:30PM, comingupthehill wrote:

Spyker ,why not jump off at the 2nd last,or half way round.

Because he thought the fav was going to beat it without breaking a sweat

You could watch jumps racing for twenty years and not see a professional jockey drop to the floor like a rag doll, whilst jumping a hurdle like that. Just an almighty coincidence that it was also a huge drifter in an effective 2 horse race, connections a well known gambling firm with a litany of past wrongdoing, and it was in front on the bridle at the last, with a only a very short run in ahead. And pigs may well fly.

Ciders photo on other thread trying to show legs akimbo,actually proves the opposite,the horses head is high,looks like he doesn’t want to jump hurdle,then decides he has to,so jumps high and then rolls on landing,unsettling,then unseating the jockey.

The drift and the fall isn’t 2+ 2.

If it tailed off last or finished late from denote ride,then fair enough,

But why wait till last hurdle to let the drifters get paid.

It’s basically the worst ,most clumsy,most blatant way to not win,

That’s if you accept he jumped off,praying he didn’t suffer serious injury,has his dad screams,go on son,that’s my boy,hope you don’t die,or get brain damage.

Fortunately has both legs on the one side of the horse enabling him to cushion the fall.

cuth, plans don't always match the reality. if a jockey knew that there was a huge liability, and he's about to win by 'accident', he only has a few seconds to decide what to do to get out of the situation. when people panic they can take unusual risks, and potential harm is secondary.

if you watch these tv shows that follow the police around, you can see them try and pull a driver over for no insurance, they can panic and fly through blind junctions and red lights at 70-80 mph. i don't think any jockey sets out to fall off, but they have deliberately done so in the past. As at the time, in that moment of high adrenalin and fear, it seems the lesser of two evils.

Cider ,brilliant.

Phillip Byrne pit radio.

I’ve jumped 4, everything ok,abort abort abort,there’s big liabilities.

Are you sure,it’sfooking a Wexford night meeting,Chelsea in a final.

Abort,

I ll see how it goes,it might tire,fav looks good.

Fooking abort now,

How can I
Just jump off.

Ok.you asked,don’t blame me.tell my dad,I tried my best if I die.

You should watch the replay, landed on his feet, walked away happy as larry.

A sadly now dead ex jockey who I knew since childhood assured me that he had jumped off during a race because the horse was going too well to stop it. We are talking 50+ years ago.

Some people could easily argue that black is white.

One thing is sure, he'll never get a job as a stuntman on that performance.

May 29, 2025 -- 8:20AM, Brian wrote:

One thing is sure, he'll never get a job as a stuntman on that performance.

His nickname is now Colt Severs

Investigation to be held into Wexford incident after race leader hits 1.14 in running before jockey unseats at final flight

The IHRB has confirmed there will be a further investigation into Philip Byrnes's final-flight unseat from Redwood Queen in the opening 2m1f claiming hurdle at Wexford on Wednesday evening, which left Beacon Edge alone to claim victory.
The eight-year-old, trained by the jockey's father Charles, had opened up at 7-2 before drifting to a starting price of 13-2, but looked set for success when two lengths clear approaching the last hurdle.
Despite appearing to jump it successfully, Byrnes was unseated from Redwood Queen, who traded at 1.14 in running before the incident. It left the Gordon Elliott-trained
The raceday stewards took no action against Byrnes. An IHRB spokesperson said on Thursday morning: "We note the position of the raceday stewards following their review of the incident. We can now confirm the matter is down for review by an IHRB senior racing official."
The Wexford stewards' report said: "The raceday stewards reviewed the unseating of Philip Byrnes, rider of Redwood Queen, at the last hurdle when leading. Having viewed the recording of the race and considered the matter, the raceday stewards took no further action."
How the incident unfolded

After victory, Halford told Racing TV: "It's my ninth winner altogether and it's going great. I can't thank Gordon enough. On paper it was a penalty kick, but I was very lucky to get the opportunity. I thought he could have come on and had the faller covered, but he got the job done.
"He was flat out all the way and I tried to hold on to him. Gordon told me to use my head as the trip would be a bit tight, but we got the win anyway so we cannot complain."


They can't really do much can they - they can get any number of people in to say what the jockey should have done either way. Doubt can be cast but thats it.

Leighton Aspell appears for the prosecution.
He is,in fact,an IHRB Stipendiary Steward

Predictably,Davy Russell who rode many winners for Byrnes,appeared for the defence.
Very little chance of a conviction as I stated at the time
BTW,Charles Byrnes faces no charges

Lose-lose for IHRB,it's either say that it was deliberate or a genuine accident....first one doesn't do the reputation of racing any good and if the other it's going to be called a huge waste of time among other things.

They only called an Inquiry because of public idignation,punchestown.
There was very litle chance of a conviction and absolutely no evidence against Byrnes SNR

The third option punches is that everyone knows he jumped and it's swept under the carpet. Which would be the worst one.

Punishment in racing for most cases cam only be informed judgement, not opinion. What happens in a two race, the market turns inside out, the jockey on the drifter hooks it and says I thought it lost its action, so I pulled up to protect the horse. Nobody can prove he didn't think that.

As in, it can't be proved definitively, beyond doubt. But we can say we've never seen a professional jockey either fall off, or prepare to fall off before a jump. Never mind at the last jump when it's going to win. So the judgement that it was a deliberate manoeuvre is quite informed :)

I  actually said on the other thread about this just below that I'm expecting a fudge.

With absolutely no bets being linked to Byrnes Snr the case is an utter waste of time

Russell to the defence lol…..fkn comedy.

Stigma.

... Even more corrupt is making Aspell a Steward. !!!

think davy's evidence that byrnes jnr at least hadn't punch the horse was left off the transcript

man who rode 573 times for BYRNES father swid he didn't jump off, nothing to see here.next