Kia on Luck on Sunday

could be. Kia has a chip on his shoulder, want's to be compared with Coolmore and Godolphin.

What was said,please?

Implied, drink and drug problems rife in jockeys and stable staff.

And a large trainer is turning a blind eye to it , Balding?

Why should any trainer take an adult by the hand ?

The body language of Murphy tells he is awaiting the knock …..imo

What about the drink, drug and gambling in his line of work (football ) ???  Surprised he carrys on taking the money, you would think he would refrain on Moral grounds.!!  WAC.

burying BALDING rather than MURPHY

There is more chance of swimming the Channel handcuffed than competing effectively with giants of the game in Coolmore and Godolphin

Glasgow

Exactly, Black kettle etc.

Not a fan of him at all, obnoxious and arrogant to name a couple of reasons. It's incredulous a person can get so wealthy by doing what is essentially trading humans and their assets; he's not even a licensed agent and some of his dealings are known to be dubious at least. For legal protection, i use the term 'allegedly'.

Not to mention Juddmonte.
Kia preaching morality is more than a bit rich after his dealings in soccer

Tevez and Mascherano to West Ham was one of his

Would have been great if Luck had allowed him to complete a sentence.

He was terrified about a possibly slanderous statement Cider.
I am no fan of Kia and his cohorts

You don't invite a controversial guest on to give your own opinions, it's to get theirs. Luck interrupted him continually.

Luck should audition for Question Time.

Nick Luck does not pick the guests

I'm sure he has a huge input, but 'you' is in the context of the show. Luck kept telling him what he was presuming Kia was thinking.

Kia was right in that sense, if Luck had another powerful owner on he would not be interrogating then like he was doing today. It was a completely different approach to the standard one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUULdmm_8RY

A John Dance one still up

sorry again
but how do you click on to links people put up ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM6pvs6HaI4&t=211s

May 26, 2025 -- 12:01PM, 1st time poster wrote:

sorry againbut how do you click on to links people put up ?

highlight the link, then right click, and then left click "go to etc"

Say what you like about Kia and he may well be a bright flame who burns out in time but racing has been a closed shop for too long. Speaks his mind and a breath of fresh air imo

Just watched my recording of this show - before I saw this thread.

Why on earth was Nick Luck so OTT? He would not let Kia finish a lot of his sentences.

One thing being wary of what a guest might say but another trying spoiling the interview.

Got to say that Luck is now often allowing his ego to come first rather than just ask questions and then listen to the answers. But, he probably has young young and thrusting producer in his ear trying to provoke controversy. I just do not understand why the younger generation appear to thrive on argument and conflict!

Tbf is that show not live? He was probably petrified of liable. That was very close to the bone stuff re Oisin and Balding

Was it definitely Balding...Gosden could have fitted the description?

Yeah, possibly

Why should any trainer be a father figure ?

I’m talking top riders and work riders who are old enough…

Cornflakes and coke for breakfast in some of those yards.

Luck and his producer may well have scared of libel but two thigs in response to that.

1/ Luck did not allow Kia to talk about most things, however innocent, without trampling all over it.

2/ Why have a guest on that they surely would have known was likely to be a bit sparky??

To prover my point about Luck and his ego, watch the Talking Points bit closely every week. Not so much yesterday, but a lot of weeks, Luck sets up the talking point using up at least 30 seconds of the 2 minute talking time scheduled. to be fair, though, last week when that young lad presented it (his name escapes me now) it was daft. He was spending nearly 90 seconds setting up each of the talking points.

The art of interviewing is to allow the interviewee as much time as possible to answer.

It wasn't just the alleged 'fear' of breaking the law.

He asked him if it was business or pleasure, answer was (paraphrasing) both. He must have proceeded to ask him another three or four times, claiming he wasn't getting an answer.

Kia took it pretty well on the outside, definitely had more than a veneer of an attack, rather than fact or interest finding. Which I alluded to, is not the usual MO on that show. This is the strategy you usually see from interviewers hoping to get click bait for social media.

Sowho was his first Trainer who ripped him off we need to know?

Nick let the guy finish his sentences please ffs....Come on your better than that.

BALDING/GOSDEN aint goinks/workersg to change now listening to HOUGHTON, if  balding/gosden get asked in future why are their jock,s/workers failing more tests,they,ll say because everyone else is testing them and we,re getting whats left ,
HOUGHTON wasnt asked the million $ ?,which would have been as you workers are tested would murphy with his record be tested if he rode out for her

BALDING/GOSDEN aint goinks/workersg to change now listening to HOUGHTON, if  balding/gosden get asked in future why are their jock,s/workers failing more tests,they,ll say because everyone else is testing them and we,re getting whats left ,
HOUGHTON wasnt asked the million $ ?,which would have been as you workers are tested would murphy with his record be tested if he rode out for her

Yep, i thought it was a poor interview by Luck continually steering Kia away from interesting topics but taking him too far away, ended up becoming a Luck monologue.

Milton Harris tried the "fatherly approach"with his staff and it didn't end too well.
At least we were spared the champagne socialist Channing

Aye Harris sitting in young girls bedrooms late at Night offering Fatherly advice was never ever going to end well.

Why Nick never put him straight on that right away God only knows.

Murphy not riding today.
Maybe a driving lesson or answering bail?

Unlikely on a public holiday

No it is not unlikely. I have knowm them to fix bail dates at weekends/public holidays

Unlikely = not impossible

It's unlikely you'll see any criticism of the current government on Luck On Sunday.

Certainly not whilst the prick Channing is on Cider

Channing and/or Yates are on practically every other week...maybe they know about Luck's dark secret

Assuming he has one I'd better add...

channing must be a 999 to 1 shot up against lucky,prescott,bully,beckett,cornielus,johnny G,etc on their monthly appearance rota

It's normally repeated on Tuesday night's...not scheduled this week though!!

Luck looked petrified tbh…

With good reason.
The Channel is responsible for what is transmitted

Kia Joorabchian interview | Luck On Sunday | Racing TV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM6pvs6HaI4

for anyone that missed it/no access to RTV

I'm sure it was extensively discussed on his podcast this morning!

I have only watched it today. I thought it went OK for 10 minutes but then went downhill. How anyone who has made millions from "selling" football players can accuse racing of having poor moral standards compared to football is a sick joke. I was none the wiser about Joorabchian and his ambitions at the end of the half hour and I don't think that Nick Luck was either. He held up Coolmore as the high moral ground but on what criteria? Being good at deceiving the Racing public?

What was the name of that book that Coolmore got banned?
Summat about a black horse?

The Black Horse Inside Coolmore

sageform, Kia played it so straight with the Tevez/Mascherano affair!

The verminous dog nearly got us relegated that year

I just watched the whole interview and although I'm not the greatest fan of Nick Luck, I thought he did OK. Where's all the interrupting posters have been on about? Getting him to navigate round the elephant in the room, the accident-prone jockey, was no easy task.  And KJ made good points about racing being a closed shop where the insiders all know what's going on but the the poor public don't.

Barstewards pod this week, the main host said that there was about 10 scandals currently in racing that he knew about that have never seen the light of day.

There always have been

That is the problem, all kept in house to keep up the image.

i thought kj came across well?  luck tried painting him as a jockey and trainer sacker. kia pointed out very reasonably that hes had only 3 jockeys rossa kevin stott and david egan? and he said hes still friendly with all his ex trainers?

It's life in general barstool.
Alan Pardew at my Club

Not quite on the scale of the Post Office when Ministers and senior executives knew there was a serious problem but chose to deny it for years.

The fate of "little people" is of no consequence to Governments (whoever is in power".

Luck is overrated imv…

Bottled it big time….changed a hundred colours…

Luck is undoubtedly a great presenter but he does follow the party line

What's the pardew story irons

Being "familiar " with a player's wife GHall

I heard rumours when he was managing at West Ham, that he was known for trying it on with wags of some players.

Thanks for the reply.

duffy 26 May 25 16:39 
It's normally repeated on Tuesday night's...not scheduled this week though!!

It is on as per usual, and not the for the first time a pain in the arris for anyone wishing to record The Verdict / Replay

* just to clarify, that is the schedule not being listed correctly for recording purposes, not that Luck's show is being repeated again

The schedule timings weren't correct on Saturday night either, with the 'Full SP' carrying on until 11.30 pm.

tony Calvin bed wetting about KIA crossing the libel line
everyone no,s murphy was arrested even ITV went there
balding has been putting him up since,
that's all KIA said without naming them,balding/murphy aren't taking anyone to court for saying what's in the  racing publics  name,
tony Calvin.lucky are just proving KIA,s point is correct and like some on here CALVIN went on to ? KIA,s ethics in football,instead of addressing the MURPHY/BALDING situation

Gave up watching TC when he started eating and drinking on podcasts and saying "I fink etc"

noticed that in yesterdays bottle of beer,then shorts or wine

People don't understand the law. To be fair, nor do the government.

the law is more in control of govt. than govt.

jonathan sumption

KAI,s main point was that in 10/20 yrs time and murphy is on skid row likes of balding, TC ,Chappers etc will be 1st on lucky to say how sad it all is and this is what we THEV ROYAL WE should have done blah,blah, AKA GAZZA etc

They opt into it but for most of them, a life on the jockey treadmill is a grim experience. No elective holidays, no eating, little drinking, constantly travelling. Lots of failure. Not surprising that some of them look for coping mechanisms. The authorities can provide resources to mitigate the risk, doubt it will be eradicated. Many of them stating that removing saunas from the course has made it even tougher.

The BHA certainly don't take jockey welfare as seriously as they should but jockeys are mostly grown men and women aged 20 or more so should a "nanny state" have to be supervising them even when they are not working? Should trainers also be banned from having a drink on days when they have a runner? I have never accepted this tale about no holidays. Quite apart from suspension or injury, any established jockey could give notice to his agent and to his regular trainers that he is taking a week off at a quiet stage of the season to recharge the batteries. Bit different with conditionals and apprentices who have to ride when the trainer tells them. Jockeys are often their own worst enemies. It was obvious to many that Harry Cobden was not fully fit after a serious fall mid season but he kept riding and only now admits that he should have taken a longer break.

Totally agree with you Sageform. This fuss about the jocks is typical of what the country has become. Nobody wanting to take responsibility for themselves.

Yes, some weighing rooms are poor but so are many factories, warehouses etc. And, yes, jock do not HAVE to every day but seem to think they are being forced to.

The other thing in a similar vein is stable staff whining about Sunday evening meetings. Many of them are young and would get double bubble for doing a Sunday, yet the bleeding hearts brigade think it is terrible they have to go racing on a Sunday.

When I was young, I wanted more and more overtime but today ambition and self progress is a thing of the past.

Too many want too much but think that wanting is enough when working is still the best way of fulfilling desires.

Working hard should be the way to prosperity The Knight but shoplifting seems much more lucrative these days.

And too many going to University these days, to get a degree in some arty wishy washy subject, to come out with a large debt... And then get a job they could have started 3 years earlier...
We need more apprenticeships in proper jobs like the building industry, imo

It's cultural sageform. They are self employed, the CAN technically take holidays. The implication, the reality, is that almost inevitably they can't. Only the galacticos can pick and choose when and when not to work. But they've all been on the treadmill at some point, aside from the sons of AOB. But even they could not get away with wasting.

We can hold both thoughts at the same time, it's literally a choice, but that choice in most cases leads to a pretty grim day to day existence.

And yes, I'm all about personal responsibility, but I'm not completely devoid of empathy.

In that case they should have to select 2 weeks a year in which they are not taking rides. It is not reasonable to "expect" them to ride 7 days a week for the whole season. It is worse in GB because of the number of courses and the travelling required. Some trainers seem to rotate rides with Andrew Balding for example giving most rides in the North and Scotland to PJ McDonald although Probert rode Hi Ya Mal at Hamilton. He seems to be retained by the owner.

Cider, the 2 Harrys seem to largely confine themselves to one yard each but Sean Bowen seems to take anything.

A compelled holiday would be a logical thing to do. Still can ride out, ride abroad etc, but would be a start.

They could achieve it by having restricted races.

Jumps isn't quite the same as there's usually weather intervention at some point, and natural breaks. Less pressure on the scales. But of course, the temptation to ride injured.

At least they are no longer pressured into driving at 80mph to ride at 2 meetings a day.

Trimming the program book as we all know is needed might help to kill two birds with one stone.

if you are a struggling jokey and have 1 ride at 2.00 leafy and another 1 at 8pm kempton you will have to turn one down and possibly never get on another from the trainer

£2M for Ghostrider. So much for the pedigree building fillies strategy. Still likes to flex for Ascot. Something really shady about this guy.

Ghostwriter*