Irish 2000 Guineas - Rashabar

yeah dd i tend to agree regarding rashabar price looks too big ,good solid form in group races plenty of exp ,also like hotashell might be better over a bit further but group 1 form and not done a lot wrong biggish price .

He does look the value play in this but I wouldn't say he was crying out for the Mile. If he get the trip, he'll be there abouts. As for FOG, the general consensus on here was that the horse should have won on the bridle in the 2000gns. This is a weaker race than that one so I'll expect plenty will be getting stuck into him today

May 24, 2025 -- 1:40PM, FOYLESWAR wrote:

yeah dd i tend to agree regarding rashabar price looks too big ,good solid form in group races plenty of exp ,also like hotashell might be better over a bit further but group 1 form and not done a lot wrong biggish price .

they were the 2 e/w for me as well foyles

No doubt FOG backers will wait until AFTER the race if it wins to tell us all how it really should have won the 2000gns as it liked (NAP)

good luck wonders ,fog may well be too good but price is short enough ,cosmic could be anything , money for officer and he is improving but short enough now , expanded has a shout on his dewhurst form and a big price if you can ignore the gns run .cant back em all tho and rash and hotas hell will do for me.good luck all.

Good luck lads!

I've always preferred horses who missed newmarket for this race
newbury form boosted by jonquil & hah 2yo form way above novice form 2nd fav
nice e/w race 2 obvious bets imo gl

The 12f Listed race nearly 4 seconds inside standard. It does look breezy there so maybe wind assistance has played a part in that, but I think we can safely assume FOG ain't getting his Craven ground.

also fav sectional upgrade from newmarket not enough to reverse placings that 11/10 today built in like it won the guineas imo

The Charlton steed, whoosh (hopefully)

Rashabar certainly a sensible place play. Rather a lot of second places to back to win.

With what GB has pointed out, will the ground be softer enough for Hotazhell

What is going on with the going then? Still reported as Good in the RP.

WP - i really do think FOG should have won the english guineas and also think it will be too good for these today

May 24, 2025 -- 2:24PM, Whippin Piccadilly wrote:

With what GB has pointed out, will the ground be softer enough for Hotazhell

raining now

might have spoke too soon there

An alarming drift on FOG to 2.4

Plunge iron…..

Hope they don't get too much rain for Rashabar, but he coped with it in France. Curragh a stiff mile, but I would be more concerned about Windlord forcing him to do too much too early on the front end.

"Unfortunately, Rashabar has had a bit of an interrupted preparation for this Classic, and should improve from whatever he does today. He is in terrific shape though and I reckon he has a live each-way chance."

I didn't like the head carriage of Cosmic Year but it hasn't stopped it winning

Forget his Guineas run,Expanded seems well over priced @ 50s on here.
Can run well in this if reproducing his Dewhurst form.This might've
been his target anyway,don't think he was supposed to run in our 2000,
took over from the injured rnr.4 Plcs on here available aswell.
   GL ALL

James's Delight a big drifter there perhaps in anticipation that the ground would be too quick for him, but perhaps that bit of rain was enough to take the sting out of it.

Expanded and Hotazhell for me if the fav bombs. I cannot have Officer despite his trainer.

The one I included on my big price Saturday 'unlucky' 15 is the complete 'rag' - Commanche Brave.

In the hope he's not just in here as a pacemaker for Officer.

He travelled like a travelly thing in the 7f G3 at Leopardstown on his return and got to the lead narrowly inside the final furlong before being run down by the subsequent French Guineas winner Henri Matisse, with a subsequent French Group 3 winner behind him in third.

Has his stamina to prove for a mile but don't mind backing a 70-1 poke each-way who finished runner-up to a subsequent Classic winner on his latest start and may still be open to improvement.

bit of place money that will do

Just for Whippin - here we all are! Eaaaasy!!!

Pist it, are you watching kieren shoemark

WHOOOOSH !!!!

That was mighty impressive. No mistakes this time. WOW

identical ride to newmarket in fairness
but weaker opposition different track etc

Of course you are! Was Ruling Court in the race?

No need for that Captain.

Iron…

Thank me later,fed up giving you winners tbh….ffs

Like I said, the front 3 at Newmarket are well above average.

agree wp

... no opposition there today.

Wonder what Gosden will be saying after that.

A good winner today and the rain didn't harm its chances either.
No need for jockey bashing

Love to see a rematch With Court

It would be all about the FOG for me

If they’ve got any sense Ruling Court will be avoiding the FOG

Well said the Captain….obvious tho tbh…

FOG at Ascot , Court  derby looks the plan

You're right Captain. That's exactly what is going on.

May 24, 2025 -- 3:48PM, the old nanny ;-) wrote:

Love to see a rematch With Court

hopefully case
SJP 1 mile g/f ground you will be filled in with godolphin horse if you make FOG fav

100% WP that guineas was a very good race

agree td
do you give FOG more than 1/2l sectional upgrade relative to the winner
yes or no totally irrelevant what happened today

Nice to see form standing up TBH

I think we can all agree the front 3 at Newmarket are very good horses. FOG was the only G1 horse in todays race and maybe Hotazhell on softer over a longer trip.

May 24, 2025 -- 3:54PM, wondersobright wrote:

agree tddo you give FOG more than 1/2l sectional upgrade relative to the winneryes or no totally irrelevant what happened today

I think Ruling court might have been getting within a couple of lengths of FOG, Timeform of the same opinion

I think Ruling court might have been getting within a couple of lengths of FOG

based on what exactly?

scroll down to sectionals
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https://www.racingtv.com/results/2025-05-03/newmarket/1535

here's your chance to impress me
tell me how you get FOG 2.5 lengths ahead of RC

and I want your reasoning

Anyone would think you would have given up on it after watching that today, OBVIOUSLY NOT.

I have reached the conclusion that some on here would argue in an empty room.
Can you just not enjoy a very good performance without arguments about who is wrong or right?

May 24, 2025 -- 4:10PM, CaptainCristy wrote:

Anyone would think you would have given up on it after watching that today, OBVIOUSLY NOT.

I think Ruling court might have been getting within a couple of lengths of FOG

based on what exactly?

based on nothing, thought so

Winner in a different league. Rashabar never looked to be travelling as if he was going to pick up, and ended up taking an age to get past the pacemaker.

I mean I could understand if it had scrambled home by half a length today, but to see that and still despite the overwhelming majority telling you are wrong and keep arguing it is just mental

I'm talking about newmarket not today

7F looks his trip Drum.

May 24, 2025 -- 4:15PM, Whippin Piccadilly wrote:

7F looks his trip Drum.

curragh round mile can suit 7f types in fairness but prob right wp

straight mile with no breathers defo no

May 24, 2025 -- 2:31PM, uptheirons wrote:

An alarming drift on FOG to 2.4

Alarming drift for the layers. Truly bizarre price and play by them

Just in case anybody hasn't noticed. Any view by Jonny Dineen should be a default back of the opposite.
How the RP continue to employ pricks like him is beyond me

Takes one to know one tbh….

Look on the bright side Aceform. Nobody will seek your opinions for money

Yep,or any other person tbh…..would you trust any one to make you a millionaire ?

Lol ffs

Check out all the millionaire pro punters on YouTube….one bawbag after another…..lol you couldn’t make a up tbf.

Iron….I’ve given you a barrage of prices lately including today in the Irish 2000,I advise you to plunge ffs…

As the thread title is about Rashabar, I'm surprised there are no comments that he didn't get a clear run. I think he might have been 3rd with a clear run. No money involved here.

on the overhead shot you could see the others on the outside going past & rash didn't have the pace to go with them
ran his race for 4th imo