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a hideous decision imv...
https://www.racingtv.com/watch/replays/2025-05-17/wexford/1645
did these stewards see any races at Clonmel the previous day at all ?
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Ted Walsh has been fined €3,000 and a horse he trains suspended from running for 60 days after stewards took action after a running and riding inquiry at Wexford on Saturday.
Jockey Shane O'Callaghan, who did not use his whip, was also suspended for 14 days after Ta Na La chased home Aspire Tower in the 2m novice chase, with the odds-on favourite obliging by four and a quarter lengths.
Ta Na La, a six-year-old mare, was sent off at 16-1 on her first start over fences. She now has a record under rules of one win from 28 starts, the victory coming over hurdles at Bellewstown last July.
The Racing Post in-running comment for Ta Na Lun's run at Wexford said: "Took keen hold, in rear, headway when not fluent 2 out, went second approaching last, kept on run-in, no match for winner."
The stewards' report read: "The raceday stewards inquired into the running and riding of Ta Na La, ridden by Shane O'Callaghan, and trained by Ted Walsh. Evidence was heard from the rider accompanied by Brendan Brady, authorised representative for the trainer.
"Shane O'Callaghan stated that his instructions, issued directly from the trainer, were to jump off and get his mount settled as she can be very free in her races. He further added he was told to get her jumping well, come home the best he could and not to use his whip.
"The raceday stewards also received a report from the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board veterinary officer, who found the horse to be post-race normal. Samples were taken for further analysis.
"Having viewed the recording of the race and considered the evidence, the raceday stewards were satisfied that both rider and trainer were in breach of Rule 212.(A)(ii) in that the rider was not seen to have attempted to obtain from his mount timely, real and substantial efforts to achieve the best possible place.
"As a consequence, they suspended Shane O'Callaghan for 14 racedays, ordered that he forfeit his riding fee and fined Ted Walsh €3,000 in accordance with the guidelines and taking their clean records into account. Furthermore, they suspended Ta Na La from running for 60 days under the provisions of Rule 212C(D)."
https://www.racingtv.com/watch/replays/2025-05-17/wexford/1645
did these stewards see any races at Clonmel the previous day at all ?
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Ted Walsh has been fined €3,000 and a horse he trains suspended from running for 60 days after stewards took action after a running and riding inquiry at Wexford on Saturday.
Jockey Shane O'Callaghan, who did not use his whip, was also suspended for 14 days after Ta Na La chased home Aspire Tower in the 2m novice chase, with the odds-on favourite obliging by four and a quarter lengths.
Ta Na La, a six-year-old mare, was sent off at 16-1 on her first start over fences. She now has a record under rules of one win from 28 starts, the victory coming over hurdles at Bellewstown last July.
The Racing Post in-running comment for Ta Na Lun's run at Wexford said: "Took keen hold, in rear, headway when not fluent 2 out, went second approaching last, kept on run-in, no match for winner."
The stewards' report read: "The raceday stewards inquired into the running and riding of Ta Na La, ridden by Shane O'Callaghan, and trained by Ted Walsh. Evidence was heard from the rider accompanied by Brendan Brady, authorised representative for the trainer.
"Shane O'Callaghan stated that his instructions, issued directly from the trainer, were to jump off and get his mount settled as she can be very free in her races. He further added he was told to get her jumping well, come home the best he could and not to use his whip.
"The raceday stewards also received a report from the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board veterinary officer, who found the horse to be post-race normal. Samples were taken for further analysis.
"Having viewed the recording of the race and considered the evidence, the raceday stewards were satisfied that both rider and trainer were in breach of Rule 212.(A)(ii) in that the rider was not seen to have attempted to obtain from his mount timely, real and substantial efforts to achieve the best possible place.
"As a consequence, they suspended Shane O'Callaghan for 14 racedays, ordered that he forfeit his riding fee and fined Ted Walsh €3,000 in accordance with the guidelines and taking their clean records into account. Furthermore, they suspended Ta Na La from running for 60 days under the provisions of Rule 212C(D)."
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I think the horse was running above expectations yesterday and the rider wasn't sure what way to play it.
Absolutely motionless in the last 3F was never going to cut it irrespective of TM Walsh's instructions.
Absolutely motionless in the last 3F was never going to cut it irrespective of TM Walsh's instructions.
And,pushing with one hand whilst pulling with the other between the last two sealed its fate punchestown
Jockey looked as though he was trying to fall off at one stage up the straight just in case he got any closer to the winner. As blatant as anything. A well deserved, and about time too, pull for Ted.
it's amazing that as this was so blatantly obvious NOBODY i could see on here spotted it at the time...
some race readers.
some race readers.
Seven Meetings on and you are surprised nobody watching Wexford unhappy?
uptheirons 18 May 25 15:01
And,pushing with one hand whilst pulling with the other between the last two sealed its fate punchestown
Pulling and whipping has been happening since time began ffs
They think know one can see it happening….imv…tbh….
The sport with a kink…..
And,pushing with one hand whilst pulling with the other between the last two sealed its fate punchestown
Pulling and whipping has been happening since time began ffs
They think know one can see it happening….imv…tbh….
The sport with a kink…..
They usually get away with it and are amazed when they get a pull Aceform
some expert race readers...
a blatant not off (in their eyes) and NONE of them spotted it...
a bit embarrassing imv.
a blatant not off (in their eyes) and NONE of them spotted it...
a bit embarrassing imv.
How can you spot something you are not watching?
You are an utter moron unhappyhibby
You are an utter moron unhappyhibby
i won't sleep a wink now after being called a moron tbh.
Only saw yesterdays racing today Hibby due to family stuff,the rider was blatantly doing the knitting in the straight.might not have been good enough but didn't give any encouragement from the saddle imho.
At the end of the day this place is about opinions and it's entirely possible to agree to disagree
At the end of the day this place is about opinions and it's entirely possible to agree to disagree
Personally I wasn't involved in the race but live it looked awful, referenced by the caller as well. Looked and yes nobody had started a thread. I started a thread about a nonner on here a few months ago, and nobody replied. People aren't that bothered at the time unless they backed them.
May 18, 2025 -- 3:43PM, HappyHibby wrote:
some expert race readers...a blatant not off (in their eyes) and NONE of them spotted it...a bit embarrassing imv.
I only saw it today so there you go. And what happened at Clonmel has absolutely nothing to do with what happened at Wexford. Have a look at Moore on Ecstatic yesterday, just as blatant. Why wasn't he pulled by the Newbury stewards?
Unhappy does not bet on horses but has an opinion on everything after the race
May 18, 2025 -- 4:28PM, MJK wrote:
May 18, 2025 -- 3:43PM, HappyHibby wrote:some expert race readers...a blatant not off (in their eyes) and NONE of them spotted it...a bit embarrassing imv.I only saw it today so there you go. And what happened at Clonmel has absolutely nothing to do with what happened at Wexford. Have a look at Moore on Ecstatic yesterday,
Nothing happened at Clonmel, horse hampered by faller, is immediately ridden, then whipped and pushed,finding nothing is pulled up. Inspected by vet is found to have a cut on front leg.
At the end of the day this place is about opinions and it's entirely possible to agree to disagree
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agreed punchestown.
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agreed punchestown.
Regretaby,you will never convince the king of conspiracies of that
Nothing happened at Clonmel
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i'm calling ITV...
once PJ+Duncan retire you've got the Saturday night slot.
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i'm calling ITV...
once PJ+Duncan retire you've got the Saturday night slot.
And what happened at Clonmel has absolutely nothing to do with what happened at Wexford.
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oh i think it does tbh.
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oh i think it does tbh.
the chairman of the stewards at BOTH meetings was the same person...
for him to have seen nothing wrong at Clonmel (when a huge drifting favourite falls out the back of the telly halfway down the back straight and is pulled up) i find baffling...
but he sees something at Wexford where the horse is banned for 60 days...
it's beyond me.
for him to have seen nothing wrong at Clonmel (when a huge drifting favourite falls out the back of the telly halfway down the back straight and is pulled up) i find baffling...
but he sees something at Wexford where the horse is banned for 60 days...
it's beyond me.
May 18, 2025 -- 5:23PM, HappyHibby wrote:
And what happened at Clonmel has absolutely nothing to do with what happened at Wexford.--------------------------------------------------------------------... i think it does tbh.
You're whole basis seems to be comparing the two. I haven't seen the Clonmel but I can't understand how both are connected? Why not any other race anywhere where a jockey/trainer should be pulled in? Like yesterday at Newbury as I've already mentioned?
May 18, 2025 -- 5:30PM, HappyHibby wrote:
the chairman of the stewards at BOTH meetings was the same person...for him to have seen nothing wrong at Clonmel (when a huge drifting favourite falls out the back of the telly halfway down the back straight and is pulled up) i find baffling...but he sees something at Wexford where the horse is banned for 60 days...it's beyond me.
Maybe it is, dont want to fall out with you so ill leave it there.
Anybody backing a Charles Byrne horse deserves all they get
they are connected because not only are both sets of stewards representing IHRB...
BUT...
both sets of stewards were lead by the same chairman...
so of course they are linked.
BUT...
both sets of stewards were lead by the same chairman...
so of course they are linked.
So surely then both should have been the same end result, ie nothing done?
the Clonmel stewards the other day...
it's part of their job (or someone at IHRB at least) to watch the market...
they must have known the Charlie horse was a huge drifter...
the horse is pulled up halfway down the back straight...
does it NEVER cross their mind to at least ask Charlie boy one or two Q's about it ?
even if it's window dressing...
but they see absolutely nothing wrong with the events leading up to and during the race...
very strange imv.
it's part of their job (or someone at IHRB at least) to watch the market...
they must have known the Charlie horse was a huge drifter...
the horse is pulled up halfway down the back straight...
does it NEVER cross their mind to at least ask Charlie boy one or two Q's about it ?
even if it's window dressing...
but they see absolutely nothing wrong with the events leading up to and during the race...
very strange imv.
and btw it ain't the first time a Charlie horse has been a huge drifter and ran like that...
and the stewards do absolutely nothing about it...
it's a mistery to me tbh.
and the stewards do absolutely nothing about it...
it's a mistery to me tbh.
P.Byrnes rider of the mass path, trained by Charles Byrnes reported to the clerk of the scales that his mount got hampered by the faller, jumped poor thereafter and felt that the ground was to quick for him. the Irish horse racing regulatory board veterinary officer examined the mass path at the request of the raceday stewards and reported the animal to have a superficial cut on its left fore knee but was otherwise post race normal. samples were taken for further analysis.
Ted Walsh is appealing against action taken by the stewards after a running and riding inquiry at Wexford on Saturday.
Walsh was fined €3,000 after Ta Na La chased home Aspire Tower in the 2m novice chase, with the odds-on favourite obliging by four and a quarter lengths.
Jockey Shane O'Callaghan, who did not use his whip, was suspended for 14 days, while Ta Na La has been suspended from running for 60 days.
The six-year-old mare was sent off at 16-1 on her first start over fences. She now has a record under rules of one win from 28 starts, the victory coming over hurdles at Bellewstown last July.
Walsh confirmed an appeal to the Racing Post on Sunday but did not wish to comment further.
The Racing Post in-running comment for Ta Na Lun's run at Wexford said: "Took keen hold, in rear, headway when not fluent 2 out, went second approaching last, kept on run-in, no match for winner."
The stewards' report read: "The raceday stewards inquired into the running and riding of Ta Na La, ridden by Shane O'Callaghan, and trained by Ted Walsh. Evidence was heard from the rider accompanied by Brendan Brady, authorised representative for the trainer.
"Shane O'Callaghan stated that his instructions, issued directly from the trainer, were to jump off and get his mount settled as she can be very free in her races. He further added he was told to get her jumping well, come home the best he could and not to use his whip.
"The raceday stewards also received a report from the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board veterinary officer, who found the horse to be post-race normal. Samples were taken for further analysis.
"Having viewed the recording of the race and considered the evidence, the raceday stewards were satisfied that both rider and trainer were in breach of Rule 212.(A)(ii) in that the rider was not seen to have attempted to obtain from his mount timely, real and substantial efforts to achieve the best possible place.
"As a consequence, they suspended Shane O'Callaghan for 14 racedays, ordered that he forfeit his riding fee and fined Ted Walsh €3,000 in accordance with the guidelines and taking their clean records into account. Furthermore, they suspended Ta Na La from running for 60 days under the provisions of Rule 212C(D)."
Walsh was fined €3,000 after Ta Na La chased home Aspire Tower in the 2m novice chase, with the odds-on favourite obliging by four and a quarter lengths.
Jockey Shane O'Callaghan, who did not use his whip, was suspended for 14 days, while Ta Na La has been suspended from running for 60 days.
The six-year-old mare was sent off at 16-1 on her first start over fences. She now has a record under rules of one win from 28 starts, the victory coming over hurdles at Bellewstown last July.
Walsh confirmed an appeal to the Racing Post on Sunday but did not wish to comment further.
The Racing Post in-running comment for Ta Na Lun's run at Wexford said: "Took keen hold, in rear, headway when not fluent 2 out, went second approaching last, kept on run-in, no match for winner."
The stewards' report read: "The raceday stewards inquired into the running and riding of Ta Na La, ridden by Shane O'Callaghan, and trained by Ted Walsh. Evidence was heard from the rider accompanied by Brendan Brady, authorised representative for the trainer.
"Shane O'Callaghan stated that his instructions, issued directly from the trainer, were to jump off and get his mount settled as she can be very free in her races. He further added he was told to get her jumping well, come home the best he could and not to use his whip.
"The raceday stewards also received a report from the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board veterinary officer, who found the horse to be post-race normal. Samples were taken for further analysis.
"Having viewed the recording of the race and considered the evidence, the raceday stewards were satisfied that both rider and trainer were in breach of Rule 212.(A)(ii) in that the rider was not seen to have attempted to obtain from his mount timely, real and substantial efforts to achieve the best possible place.
"As a consequence, they suspended Shane O'Callaghan for 14 racedays, ordered that he forfeit his riding fee and fined Ted Walsh €3,000 in accordance with the guidelines and taking their clean records into account. Furthermore, they suspended Ta Na La from running for 60 days under the provisions of Rule 212C(D)."
yes i read that the following day...
horses get cuts all the time over jumps...
it's normal stuff...
trust me i know.
horses get cuts all the time over jumps...
it's normal stuff...
trust me i know.
we didn't have to see it
Gary O'Brien saw it on comms and told the whole world,it was probably his comms that alerted stewards,what's was to gain they through away a chance of winning nice novice chase beating a decent yard stick and any handicap mark has been blown by the stewards and he,s on everyone's watch list going forward, a KOOOONT of a plan rather than a cunning one
Gary O'Brien saw it on comms and told the whole world,it was probably his comms that alerted stewards,what's was to gain they through away a chance of winning nice novice chase beating a decent yard stick and any handicap mark has been blown by the stewards and he,s on everyone's watch list going forward, a KOOOONT of a plan rather than a cunning one
May 18, 2025 -- 5:58PM, HappyHibby wrote:
yes i read that the following day...horses get cuts all the time over jumps...it's normal stuff...trust me i know.
I do trust you.
the most important part of the statement above imv is...
and felt that the ground was to quick for him.
that's fine...
how about asking who layed it then ?
it's fair to say that ain't the job of the on the day stewards...
but this happens too many times and nothing is ever done about it...
they should be looking at who lays these horses pre-race and THOROUGHLY investigating it imv.
and felt that the ground was to quick for him.
that's fine...
how about asking who layed it then ?
it's fair to say that ain't the job of the on the day stewards...
but this happens too many times and nothing is ever done about it...
they should be looking at who lays these horses pre-race and THOROUGHLY investigating it imv.
Do you ever stop,unhappy?
What's the problem as you don't bet the horses by your own admission?
What's the problem as you don't bet the horses by your own admission?
luckyme 18 May 25 17:57
Ted Walsh is appealing against action taken by the stewards after a running and riding inquiry at Wexford on Saturday.
what a fckn tatey..watch it again ted ydc..was never there to win.
Ted Walsh is appealing against action taken by the stewards after a running and riding inquiry at Wexford on Saturday.
what a fckn tatey..watch it again ted ydc..was never there to win.
It will have four feet nailed to the floor next time it runs
Imo the time does not fit the crime, its the poor horse that gets 60 days and he did nothing wrong, as it was either the trainer or owner that instructed the jockey to not do their best and the jockey just carried out the order..
The fines/penalties are far too lenient at the moment, what about banning the trainer and owner for having any runners for 30 days and fining the jockey for the value of the race concerned, that might be a start to get these people to think twice about putting the brakes on with the next horse...
The jockey on Teds horse stated that he was not to use the whip on his mount, were the general public aware of this = NO, only TED,JOCKEY and poss OWNER (the wife) in this instance, were aware...
This not using of the whip/cush should have been on the race card, where the cheekpieces/blinkers/tonguestrap sections is, as to inform potential punters both on track and stay at home punters, not disclosed in an inquiry after the race....
Its only my opinion and i know it will have its knockers but clearly the present days rules are not a deterrent for the offenders and radical change is needed, as the crime is happening on many occasions daily and the time is only done sporadically.
The fines/penalties are far too lenient at the moment, what about banning the trainer and owner for having any runners for 30 days and fining the jockey for the value of the race concerned, that might be a start to get these people to think twice about putting the brakes on with the next horse...
The jockey on Teds horse stated that he was not to use the whip on his mount, were the general public aware of this = NO, only TED,JOCKEY and poss OWNER (the wife) in this instance, were aware...
This not using of the whip/cush should have been on the race card, where the cheekpieces/blinkers/tonguestrap sections is, as to inform potential punters both on track and stay at home punters, not disclosed in an inquiry after the race....
Its only my opinion and i know it will have its knockers but clearly the present days rules are not a deterrent for the offenders and radical change is needed, as the crime is happening on many occasions daily and the time is only done sporadically.
An extremely naive view,particularly "the poor horse can't run for 60 days".
Ted resembles the Jack Russell hibb….yap to eternity tbf…
Nevertheless, extremely knowledgeable and was never afraid to speak his mind on tv
I don’t disagree iron….certainly liked to take the English money (his words) back home…
There seems to be an understanding in Ireland that young inexperienced jumping stock needs to be brought along steadily. Invariably in large fields of novice hurdlers the market leaders set off together in the front while the others trail behind, quite often by the first hurdle.
I get the impression that a higher proportion of novice hurdles are won by, let’s say, the front three in the market in Ireland than in the UK. You seldom see a long-priced horse win at novice level in Ireland.
The stewards seem to accept this state of affairs, knowing that the connections can call upon any number of reasons why their horse has not been put into the race.
However there are occasions when it seems to go too far, and there was possibly such a case in the opening maiden hurdle at Kilbeggan last Friday.
JP McManus had two in the race … Park That, the 11/10 favourite who had finished third and fourth twice in three of his four runs, and Powerful, who had finished 12th and fifth in his two runs.
Park That was supported from 15/8 to 11/10, while Powerful went from 9/2 to 3/1.
I don’t need to run through the entire race, but in the closing stages Simon Torrens on Powerful never resorted to the whip despite appearing to have a horse with more to offer. At the line he was beaten just a short head.
The stewards stepped in and were met with one of the most extensive explanations I have ever seen amounting to 12 lines in the Racing Post, notably that the horse would not respond to the use of the whip and had returned with a small wound on the outside of his near-fore and had a cardiac murmur.
The stewards added that they noted the explanations on the basis of the veterinary evidence alone, which they felt was a very significant factor in arriving at their decision. This suggests to me that without it they would have handed out a ban.
The ride attracted plenty of comment on social media and despite the explanations, given the narrowness of the margin of victory, I believe the best horse in the race finished second.
Frank Berry, racing manager to JP McManus, runs a very tight ship and Enda Bolger and Jessica Harrington would have been made aware of his expectations.
It is tempting to speculate that if the runner-up had not carried the McManus silks the stewards might have reached a different verdict.
Bye for now
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I get the impression that a higher proportion of novice hurdles are won by, let’s say, the front three in the market in Ireland than in the UK. You seldom see a long-priced horse win at novice level in Ireland.
The stewards seem to accept this state of affairs, knowing that the connections can call upon any number of reasons why their horse has not been put into the race.
However there are occasions when it seems to go too far, and there was possibly such a case in the opening maiden hurdle at Kilbeggan last Friday.
JP McManus had two in the race … Park That, the 11/10 favourite who had finished third and fourth twice in three of his four runs, and Powerful, who had finished 12th and fifth in his two runs.
Park That was supported from 15/8 to 11/10, while Powerful went from 9/2 to 3/1.
I don’t need to run through the entire race, but in the closing stages Simon Torrens on Powerful never resorted to the whip despite appearing to have a horse with more to offer. At the line he was beaten just a short head.
The stewards stepped in and were met with one of the most extensive explanations I have ever seen amounting to 12 lines in the Racing Post, notably that the horse would not respond to the use of the whip and had returned with a small wound on the outside of his near-fore and had a cardiac murmur.
The stewards added that they noted the explanations on the basis of the veterinary evidence alone, which they felt was a very significant factor in arriving at their decision. This suggests to me that without it they would have handed out a ban.
The ride attracted plenty of comment on social media and despite the explanations, given the narrowness of the margin of victory, I believe the best horse in the race finished second.
Frank Berry, racing manager to JP McManus, runs a very tight ship and Enda Bolger and Jessica Harrington would have been made aware of his expectations.
It is tempting to speculate that if the runner-up had not carried the McManus silks the stewards might have reached a different verdict.
Bye for now
Marten Julian's signature
They should try looking at the distance between the leader and stragglers…..probably a furlong in most races tbh…
Complete circus…imv
Complete circus…imv
The Green & Gold are not called the untouchables for nothing.
If JP shot Bambi with a machine gun in front of a full house at Croke Park I would expect a jury to acquit on the grounds of suicide
If JP shot Bambi with a machine gun in front of a full house at Croke Park I would expect a jury to acquit on the grounds of suicide
Similar to Coolmore the risen tbh…..oh look it’s Michael !
Yawn ffs
Yawn ffs
uptheirons 20 May 25 13:38
Nevertheless, extremely knowledgeable and was never afraid to speak his mind on tv
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correct...
compare that to 99.9999999% of those on telly now...
i always admire someone who actually says what they think...
and no doubt that will mean i disagree with them from time to time...
but in an industry that always seems to be good at saying nowt at least Ted has had the guts to speak his mind over the years...
and that is admirable imv.
Nevertheless, extremely knowledgeable and was never afraid to speak his mind on tv
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correct...
compare that to 99.9999999% of those on telly now...
i always admire someone who actually says what they think...
and no doubt that will mean i disagree with them from time to time...
but in an industry that always seems to be good at saying nowt at least Ted has had the guts to speak his mind over the years...
and that is admirable imv.
When it suits him hibb,he doesn’t speak for the fodder tbh….
I remember it well the punters “ they know nothing “
Aye Ted…
Aye Ted…
you are NEVER going to agree with everyone all of the time aceform...
but i can't be having those folk who are thinking about saying something but are too scared to open their traps...
not for me that tbh...
and i'd say that is 99.99999% of the racing media now tbh.
but i can't be having those folk who are thinking about saying something but are too scared to open their traps...
not for me that tbh...
and i'd say that is 99.99999% of the racing media now tbh.
A few Roy Keane types required in racing,unfortunately they would last a day…
Remember the Welshman hibb,ex forum member
Remember the Welshman hibb,ex forum member
he got two gigs and never re-appeared aceform...
said a few things...
head honchos said 'oh no we don't want that sort on our screens'...
utter joke...
shows you what the agenda was/is imv.
said a few things...
head honchos said 'oh no we don't want that sort on our screens'...
utter joke...
shows you what the agenda was/is imv.
when they bring in ex jockeys / sons and daughters of trainers / current trainers employees...
they know exactly what they are getting aceform...
a bunch of see no evil hear no evil merchants...
sad state of affairs imv.
they know exactly what they are getting aceform...
a bunch of see no evil hear no evil merchants...
sad state of affairs imv.
no chance of me watching that farce of a programme aceform...
i think i watched the first programme...
2 minutes later i was watching Escape to the Country.
i think i watched the first programme...
2 minutes later i was watching Escape to the Country.
Depends on the staff on the day for me….mute is always by my side….I don’t have RTV so it suits tbh hibb…
BBC missed the play off in the Scottish championship….sky..ffs
BBC missed the play off in the Scottish championship….sky..ffs
it's always SKY who get's that ine aceform...
it's the PREMIERSHIP playoff and they get all the PREMIERSHIP stuff...
it's a pity but that's life.
it's the PREMIERSHIP playoff and they get all the PREMIERSHIP stuff...
it's a pity but that's life.
Been watching the championship every Friday night hibb….then this cr@p…..
me too...
that's the way it goes tho aceform...
like i say it's a pity but it's classed as a PREMIERSHIP match tbh...
will be on the radio tho...
and you will probably get a feed somewhere on the internet i'd suggest.
that's the way it goes tho aceform...
like i say it's a pity but it's classed as a PREMIERSHIP match tbh...
will be on the radio tho...
and you will probably get a feed somewhere on the internet i'd suggest.
Thought they would have taken the championship viewers into consideration…..
viewing figures on SKY will be pitiful imv aceform...
common sense says it should at the very least be on BOTH channels...
but when does common sense come in to things these days ?
common sense says it should at the very least be on BOTH channels...
but when does common sense come in to things these days ?
Yep,bang on hibb.I often wonder how the club survived this long..
I remember going years ago and thinking wtf am i doing here….dire..
why anyone would chuck money at Livingston is beyond me tbh...
virtually no chance of a return.
virtually no chance of a return.
There seems to be an understanding in Ireland that young inexperienced jumping stock needs to be brought along steadily. Invariably in large fields of novice hurdlers the market leaders set off together in the front while the others trail behind, quite often by the first hurdle.
I get the impression that a higher proportion of novice hurdles are won by, let’s say, the front three in the market in Ireland than in the UK. You seldom see a long-priced horse win at novice level in Ireland.
The stewards seem to accept this state of affairs, knowing that the connections can call upon any number of reasons why their horse has not been put into the race.
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This has been going on for years-particularly early in the season,28 runner Maiden Hurdle at Navan with 28 runners,4/6 WPM hotpot,7/2 Ellott's,7/1 Jessie's and any price the rest.
Tapes go up and about 5 0r 6 horses at the front for the whole race and two thirds of the field out of their ground and the race after 2 flights.
Almost like a schooling hurdle.
I get the impression that a higher proportion of novice hurdles are won by, let’s say, the front three in the market in Ireland than in the UK. You seldom see a long-priced horse win at novice level in Ireland.
The stewards seem to accept this state of affairs, knowing that the connections can call upon any number of reasons why their horse has not been put into the race.
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This has been going on for years-particularly early in the season,28 runner Maiden Hurdle at Navan with 28 runners,4/6 WPM hotpot,7/2 Ellott's,7/1 Jessie's and any price the rest.
Tapes go up and about 5 0r 6 horses at the front for the whole race and two thirds of the field out of their ground and the race after 2 flights.
Almost like a schooling hurdle.
I do have sympathy for the smaller yards in Ireland punchestown.
They have little hope other than to set one up for a gamble.
The only mystery to me is how do they get the money on?
They have little hope other than to set one up for a gamble.
The only mystery to me is how do they get the money on?
Mr Walsh is managing his "reputation". What happened on the track that day is pretty common in Ireland. One of our principals in the BHA has alluded to this "exercise" in public eg 'Now is The Hour' as a common practice just recently.
Ted Walsh has been successful with his appeal against a €3,000 fine following the run of Ta Na La at Wexford last Saturday week, but the horse's 60-day suspension has not been lifted following a hearing that lasted over an hour on Monday.
Ta Na La was beaten four and a quarter lengths into second by the Aspire Tower in a 2m novice chase and the Wexford stewards on the day found Walsh and jockey Shane O'Callaghan in breach of rule 212, satisfied that the rider was not seen to have attempted to obtain from his mount timely, real and substantial efforts to achieve the best possible place.
The winner had a rating of 142, while Ta Na La was a 108-rated hurdler who was in receipt of 16lb on what was his first run over fences.
Walsh was handed a €3,000 fine, with O'Callaghan given a 14-day suspension and the horse banned for 60 days.
O'Callaghan did not appeal, but Walsh did and was successful in a hearing at the headquarters of the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board.
The appeal was chaired by Siobhan Keegan, with John Murphy and Nick Wachman also on the panel and they rescinded Walsh's fine, but did not quash the big ban handed to Ta Na La, who will remain out of action until late July.
Ta Na La was beaten four and a quarter lengths into second by the Aspire Tower in a 2m novice chase and the Wexford stewards on the day found Walsh and jockey Shane O'Callaghan in breach of rule 212, satisfied that the rider was not seen to have attempted to obtain from his mount timely, real and substantial efforts to achieve the best possible place.
The winner had a rating of 142, while Ta Na La was a 108-rated hurdler who was in receipt of 16lb on what was his first run over fences.
Walsh was handed a €3,000 fine, with O'Callaghan given a 14-day suspension and the horse banned for 60 days.
O'Callaghan did not appeal, but Walsh did and was successful in a hearing at the headquarters of the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board.
The appeal was chaired by Siobhan Keegan, with John Murphy and Nick Wachman also on the panel and they rescinded Walsh's fine, but did not quash the big ban handed to Ta Na La, who will remain out of action until late July.
Either the horse was "not off" or it wasn't (blatantly stopped imo).
A ludicrous decision but not unexpected over there.
A ludicrous decision but not unexpected over there.
How'd an apprentice be handed a ban when he was riding to instruction? The trainer was punished with a £3k fine, but has now been rescinded. However, the 14-day and 60-day ban on the jockey and horse respectively were upheld.
A pathetic, unjust and unsatisfactory decision by the Irish Appeal Board. This is happening again in Ireland. The IHRB is a laughing stock of horseracing in Ireland, and not fit-for-purpose.
A pathetic, unjust and unsatisfactory decision by the Irish Appeal Board. This is happening again in Ireland. The IHRB is a laughing stock of horseracing in Ireland, and not fit-for-purpose.
A 'backroom' agreement one would assume, no appeal from the jockey.
I suppose it could be argued that the jockey screwed up by making it so bleedin obvious
I suppose it could be argued that the jockey screwed up by making it so bleedin obvious
The Walshes have always had little regard for the betting public
I think the jockey was considered by the trainer Mr Walsh not to be trusted or sufficiently competent verbally to communicate to the Appeal Board something that might be contrary to the defence of Mr Walsh against the £3k fine imposed. For instance, the jockey could be cross examined and dismantled on Mr Walsh's defence by the brief of the IHRB.
A jockey riding to instruction was suspended, but the trainer got off scot-free. Charming, this is justice in Ireland!
A jockey riding to instruction was suspended, but the trainer got off scot-free. Charming, this is justice in Ireland!
Name a trainer that does give a crap about punters.
Richard Hannon the other day on LOS said something like you've lost a tenner go back to work
Fergal O'Brien is on record, mug punters give out a rest, lost yer £5 shut up
Richard Hannon the other day on LOS said something like you've lost a tenner go back to work
Fergal O'Brien is on record, mug punters give out a rest, lost yer £5 shut up
Horseracing UK is funded by bookies, and not from a social fund administered by a governmental body. As such, unless the bookies procure the fund eg through profit, etc, there will be no horseracing in the UK.
Unless this direct relationship is dismantled or discontinued horseracing in the uK will not prosper or flourish; the bookies will always demand their pound of flesh 1st, regardless.
At this rate I may go ptp instead of bookies sponsored races.
Unless this direct relationship is dismantled or discontinued horseracing in the uK will not prosper or flourish; the bookies will always demand their pound of flesh 1st, regardless.
At this rate I may go ptp instead of bookies sponsored races.
buy you're own and tell him to hold it for a year, then you you have to get stable fees on at decent price, and you might not trust the info coming out and price is not what expected
there may be other strokers going from same race, and you have a chat with other reps and say choke you're horse for another day, you won't beat us, it's up to yourself
Lets not forget a few rogue stable staff or jockeys, it's a struggle for owners and punters
I have no opinion on this horses running,but.
The stewards report doesn’t mention,the price of the horse,the position in the betting,the morning price,was it backed or difted.
Surely when looking into the running of a horse,the betting market must be looked at,and entered into the report.in all reports.ive no idea what happened in this case,but its like ignoring the elephant in the room not referring to betting.
The stewards report doesn’t mention,the price of the horse,the position in the betting,the morning price,was it backed or difted.
Surely when looking into the running of a horse,the betting market must be looked at,and entered into the report.in all reports.ive no idea what happened in this case,but its like ignoring the elephant in the room not referring to betting.
The horse had 35lbs to find with the fav on its chase debut and was clearly having a jog around and went off at 16/1
Unfortunately for Ted improved massively
Unfortunately for Ted improved massively
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