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By:
TameTheTiger
When: 17 May 25 21:41
maroon colours, yellow cap
By:
TameTheTiger
When: 17 May 25 21:43
Time Charter (6 April 1979 – 7 July 2005) was an Irish-bred, British-trained Thoroughbred racehorse and broodmare who won several major middle-distance races between 1982 and 1984. After winning twice as a two-year-old in 1981, she developed into a classic filly in the following year, finishing second in the 1000 Guineas before winning The Oaks in record time. Later that year she won the Sun Chariot Stakes before beating a field of colts and older horses by seven lengths in the Champion Stakes. As a four-year-old she won England's premier weight-for-age race, the King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Stakes and successfully conceded seven pounds to the outstanding French filly All Along in the Prix Foy. In 1984 she recorded an impressive four length victory in the Coronation Cup and was retired from racing at the end of the year having won nine of her twenty races. She later became a very successful broodmare.
By:
jimnast
When: 17 May 25 22:05
Ridden by a jockey later warned of for dealings with harry bardsley
By:
acey deucy
When: 17 May 25 22:07
Rode her a few times and lead her up at Newmarket when was beaten by Elektric....An absolute Machine.Cool
By:
jimnast
When: 17 May 25 22:12
Her time of the oaks win was quicker than the derby winner that year who was the brilliant Golden Fleece
By:
jimnast
When: 17 May 25 22:14
Did you ever ride master Willie acey?
By:
acey deucy
When: 17 May 25 22:17
I have rode a few good ones when i was in Racing Nashwan Dayjur but Time Charter was the best imho.
By:
acey deucy
When: 17 May 25 22:18
No he was gone by the time i got to Candys jimnast.
By:
jimnast
When: 17 May 25 22:24
Time charter must have been your first year acey

Not doubt time charter was very good but better than nashwan?
By:
themightymac
When: 17 May 25 22:27
Time Charter was a terrific mare but would never ever beat Nashwan even with the sex allowance.
By:
themightymac
When: 17 May 25 22:29
..... theoretically speaking that is, given they were racing at same age.
By:
acey deucy
When: 17 May 25 22:29
Beg to differ with you guys.
By:
jimnast
When: 17 May 25 22:38
Nothing wrong with that acey horse racing is all about opinions
By:
impossible123
When: 17 May 25 22:41
One of my favourite horses. Billy Newnes was her pilot.
By:
hulk23
When: 17 May 25 22:48
acey's ridden both of them but some guy who watched them running down the bookies is telling him which one was better

gotta luv the phorum ...
By:
Sica Dan
When: 17 May 25 23:01
Time Charter was the last horse to headline on  The Sporting Chronicle.
By:
jimnast
When: 17 May 25 23:02
Acey

Perhaps due to the decade she raced in where we had fillies mares like triptych Indian skimmer miesque oh so sharp and pebbles she sometimes get forgotten
By:
jimnast
When: 17 May 25 23:03
Spot on sica
By:
jimnast
When: 17 May 25 23:05
Hulk

Why do you like to spoil threads ?
By:
acey deucy
When: 17 May 25 23:07
Laugh
By:
impossible123
When: 17 May 25 23:37
In The Groove was another highly talented beast trained by Mr Elseworth.
By:
themightymac
When: 18 May 25 00:04
Don't forget Floyd 123.Grin
By:
themightymac
When: 18 May 25 00:06
Respect where it's due Acey. You must have been a good work rider of Hern and Candy let you sit on them.

... Was Brian Procter still working then
By:
elisjohn
When: 18 May 25 06:45
After finishing third over five furlongs on her racecourse debut, Time Charter won a six furlong race at Leicester Racecourse in July. In September she carried top weight of 133 pounds in a nursery handicap over seven furlongs at Goodwood Racecourse and won by three-quarters of a length from Lamlash. On her final appearance of the season she finished seventh when carrying top weight in another nursery handicap at Lingfield Park Racecourse in October.[4]

unusual route to winning an oaks
By:
ged
When: 18 May 25 07:26
Philip Waldron rode Time Charter as a 2yo, but he gave up the job as Candy's jockey the following season to accept a retainer with Esal Commodities. He rode their Tender KIng to be 2nd in the Greenham, and afterwards said he thought Candy's Wind And Wuthering, who he'd ridden as a 2yo, would beat him in the 2000gns. He was right (they finished 2nd and 3rd), but Tender King's trainer, John Sutcliffe, didn't like hearing it and sacked him. Candy would have been happy to have had Waldron back riding Wind And Wuthering in the Guineas but he'd already booked Steve Cauthen. He got the mount back for the Irish 2000, went off fav, but was unplaced (Tender King was 2nd).

Strangely enough, the Lingfield nursery in which Time Charter was unplaced in her final race as a 2yo was the John Sutcliffe Nursery. It was run on heavy ground.
By:
sageform
When: 18 May 25 07:38
Very good filly and mare. R Barnett was a top owner/ breeder back in the day.
By:
lead on
When: 18 May 25 07:50
His colours still with Hannon?
By:
LINKSMAN
When: 18 May 25 08:27
Acey, you’ll know my uncle John Smith. Worked for the Candys for over 50 years and still lives at Kingston Warren. TC was a fantastic racemare, arguably her best performance was beating Kalaglow 7L in the champion stakes. Started her 5yo campaign by winning the Coronation Stakes with ease but the yard wasn’t right for much of that year.
She won the King George on my 18th birthday. I worked at Ascot as casual raceday staff in those days and had my two days wages on her. Probably still my best racing memory to this day.
By:
CaptainCristy
When: 18 May 25 09:52

May 17, 2025 -- 10:48PM, hulk23 wrote:


acey's ridden both of them but some guy who watched them running down the bookies is telling him which one was bettergotta luv the phorum ...


Doubt he saw Time Charter at the bookies, they didn’t show horse racing when this one was running..

By:
jimnast
When: 18 May 25 10:51
Well spotted captain I couldn’t be bothered pointing out to him I had seen all the horses mentioned bar miesque in the flesh
By:
jimnast
When: 18 May 25 10:57
Great stuff as ever from ged
By:
jerseyboy
When: 18 May 25 11:55
Mrs E M Roberts  whose brothers name Time Charter ran under lives here in Jersey, she is a brilliant supporter off Jersey horse racing.Has owned many other good horses and the colours are prominent often on TV.
By:
stewarts rise
When: 18 May 25 12:23
jimnast17 May 25 23:05Joined: 03 Jan 01 | Topic/replies: 16,180 | Blogger: jimnast's blog
Hulk

Why do you like to spoil threads ?


Hulk manages to spoil a lot of threads Jimnast, even the ones he starts with his puerile nonsense of him moving the markets.Grin
By:
acey deucy
When: 18 May 25 13:23
LINKSMAN18 May 25 08:27Joined: 27 Dec 01 | Topic/replies: 1 | Blogger: LINKSMAN's blog
Acey, you’ll know my uncle John Smith. Worked for the Candys for over 50 years and still lives at Kingston Warren. TC was a fantastic racemare, arguably her best performance was beating Kalaglow 7L in the champion stakes. Started her 5yo campaign by winning the Coronation Stakes with ease but the yard wasn’t right for much of that year.
She won the King George on my 18th birthday. I worked at Ascot as casual raceday staff in those days and had my two days wages on her. Probably still my best racing memory to this day
Yes i knew John very well Linksman he was a brilliant Head Lad..And yes Mac Procter was there he was the main man.
By:
howard
When: 18 May 25 13:56
Joe Mercer was a good jockey but poor ride when beat by Sadlers Wells ( eclipse )
By:
wroughtironronn
When: 18 May 25 13:56
I remember Billy Newnes riding Time Charter - Newnes was a rising star but fell foul of the corruption rules and got a 3 year ban which ruined his career  https://www.upi.com/Archives/1984/01/31/Billy-Newnes-one-of-the-best-young-jockeys-in/9839444373200/
By:
howard
When: 18 May 25 13:59
Timeform horses to follow said after  a couple of nursery wins previous year  should win good handicaps this year !
By:
jimnast
When: 18 May 25 14:08
Stewart’s

Just a few old chaps taking a trip down memory lane on a Saturday night and this clown pops up ,really you would think he had better things to do on a Saturday.
By:
jimnast
When: 18 May 25 14:12
Acey

Was you at the majors when Troy was around
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