Classic races losing the old spark nowadays

Explain yourself further,please..

When the guy who is widely hailed as a genius has the favourite for both 2,000 Guineas and the Derby basically states on the eve of the season he couldn't get it fit enough for the former then you may as well rip up the ante-post book. He has mopped up the trials at Chester, and probably will do a similar job at Lingfield, but the Dante will provide the real test.

Yep,2000 the daddy for all colts and two years in a row Coolmore couldn’t be @rsed preparing for it…

lead on 09 May 25 09:54 
Explain yourself further,please

Who looks forward to Derby day…..

The Derby has never been the same since Lester hung up his boots,fact.

Give me a low grade h/cap at somewhere like Market Rasen any day of the week , lack of handbrake usage makes the race harder not easier for our ultimate aim of making money.

Lester was the Derby acey….magnet for most tbf…

Agreed ace !!

I couldn’t tell you what won the Oaks last year….or the Leger…..

Damp squibs now….

95% of punters couldn't tell you either Ace without googling , it's a sport primarily concerning gambling memories rather than any following of the sport but bet you most of those 95% could tell you the last winner they backed or the last good win they had.

Yep,spot on Hayden,like the 2000 last Saturday,punters with no financial interest will be wondering why all the fuss tbh

No play no interest,sad state tbh….

agree , flat racing just isnt the same, coolmore have diluted it, no doubt, we used to get exited about winter fav for the guineas  and waiting for them usually to come out in the fred darling, craven etc , but now its  dead, and coolmore havent a clue about their own horses, running pot luck

its not a sad state, it has always been the case, albeit more so today, as less folk are interested in racing..I blame the advent of the internet for most things these days....i could reel of classic winners from the 80s and 90s,(even without gambling memories) but couldn't tell you the winners of the top of my head from last year and the year before.

it is an age thing too....i could tell your every world cup winner and the the host country from 1930 onwards when i was younger , again of the top of my head...no chance i could remember where the world cup was held going back 20 years, never mind the winner.

Will say, there was a huge buzz in the 80s, early 90s, for every classic trial...As was said, coolmore and godolphin have changed everything, good horses in different stables just made everything better, you didnt know who had the best horses.....tbf Coolmore sometimes dont either, even with everything in house.

it isnt the same, not the same interest im afraid, even without coolmore and godolphin, times have changed, interest wise.

The Derby diminished massively for me when moving from Wednesday to Saturday. It stood alone and the centre of attention midweek whereas now it’s lost amongst the maelstrom of Saturday sport.

Ditto….

Racing like football all over the place Fk the fodder,same old treatment since time began….

Similar to the bookies, used to go down midweek in the afternoon, the place would be packed with punters listening to the blower and 99% smokers. Nowadays you’ll have a couple of people watching half heartedly.

Yes but that’s all down to Captain Black who invented the exchange…..the Mysterons….ruined high street and betting ring…

Certainly not my hero…

There always seemed to be a gamble in the last race of the day, 16/1 into 3/1, invariably beaten out of sight.