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John Gosden post race told you everything tbh
John Gosden post race told you everything tbh
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I wonder what Rab H is thinking to himself ??
is he thinking the squirrels are coonts? |
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Tyneside slang ….
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if the 2nd was a 33s poke there would be a max of a dozen posts moaning about the jockey
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if the 2nd was a 33s poke there would be a max of a dozen posts moaning about the jockey
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if the winner is very good the 3rd must be good yet the stable didn't think they had a guinea,s runner 4 weeks ago,let alone 2 very good ones and a 1st and 3rd
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Totally agree with Shooda and Basil...spot on..been watching racing 40 yr and that was not a good ride... from the pull at the start when broke well to the pull just as Buick quickens..ver poor
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Rab is very poor but even he woulda done better and dare i say win 8 times outa 10 y9ubrun that race...
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If the first and second met again tomorrow the second would be fav imo. It looked and is best horse in race.
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I backed FOG, and I can say the jockey should have done a couple of things differently.
But for me the main reason for defeat is that the horse did not quicken at the crucial point, and that cost him the race. |
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correct.
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First impressions are very often correct. No reason for Gosden to alter what he said. A short, and precise summary. Rare for anyone in the game to be critical. That's how obvious it was.
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in the craven which was a slower race it was last 3f out..cruised closer and quickened to win going away..
nothing different today...was 2L down on the snaff going into the last 2f...when he asked it didnt quicken going into the dip..it ran on strongly last fur..it was close enough if good enough..wants 10f. |
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Unfortunately, quite a lot of difference, the main one being this was a much better field. The ground was also quicker. He gave the winner three lengths start who was able to join battle with the other Godolphin runner. Field Of Dream was left stuck on the wing and never looked likely to get up. Whether he is a stayer time will tell, but he is a big horse who lengthens rather than produces instant acceleration. Jock should have been aware of that and not surrendered that early ground by taking a pull. As Gosden said he was just too far back.
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Fib O'Nacci - take a bow!
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Just found further info posted a couple of days later...
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DD what are you watching? 2f out they are FOG and Ruling Court are level,both on the snaff..they were both ridden at the same time...Ruling Court quickened,FOG didnt,it was even more apparent on the drone,FOG wasnt even going forward from just inside the the last 2f till it hit the rising ground,it laid it and had a big lean on late..it simply got outpaced at a crucial time.
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Nope, Buick rides first, Shoemark thinks he has him covered, then Buick starts to get away and panic stations Shoemark starts riding hell for leather.
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Buick horse quickened up well,the Shoemark horse couldn’t….ran on well….
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correct David,sense at last.
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froysdc..watch it again..he was shoving 2 out.
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I can see both sides of the argument,no cut and dry by any means.
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Travelled like the best horse.Got caught flatfooted and then finished really well out of dip.
Lost his race because he did not quicken instantainously.Maybe better if he was wound up a bit earlier. Would want to be on the 2nd horse in a rematch,and possibly over a bit further. |
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Both niggled at the same time asking the horse,quick ground no excuse,rider no excuse….St James palace should kill the argument…
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Dettori said that a horse has to build momentum going into the dip.
Dont amble to the crest and then ask to sprint downhill. The horse will lose balance Buick built momentum and Shoe asked to quicken at wrong time so looked like he couldn't keep up. Gosden should know. |
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differentdrum 04 May 25 00:28
As Gosden said he was just too far back. Here is a close-up of the pair approaching the Dip. This must be the point where FOG went odds-on in the run? By no stretch of the imagination was he "too far back". https://x.com/HORISracing/status/1918678529685799002 |
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Field Of Gold was not too far back; Shoemark should have positioned himself closer to the winner coming to the dip. The winner kicked immediately coming out of the dip; Field Of Gold was still at the dip at this juncture. This "kicked" gained a length probably slightly more; Shoemark realised, tried to respond immediately but the horse was unbalanced as a result.
The rest is history. |
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thar ye go from the horses mouth, I WAS TO CONFIDENT SHOULD HAVE FIRED HIM IN TO THE DIP SHOULD HAVE WENT SOONER,obviously those who've never sat on a horse will tell him different
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Someone should tell him to watch it again
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He had it right yesterday:
"Field Of Gold travelled really well but just lost it in the Dip for a few strides and he look his time to find his feet. He stayed on well and he'll be a ten-furlong horse in time." |
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Great to see all the posters who claimed yesterday he did nothing wrong hold their hands up today
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5/2 Field Of Gold for the SJP. The winner is going to Epsom, according to his trainer.
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rico rang kieran this morning trying to get him to retract his statement
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MJK 04 May 25 14:45
Great to see all the posters who claimed yesterday he did nothing wrong hold their hands up today certainly not me..didnt quicken as he thought..best horse won on the day. |
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I guess Keiran has ridden a few, he’ll know.
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The old saying,"A little knowledge is a dangerous thing" perfectly illustrated here.
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^(the first two until yesterday) apologies for the mistype, dodgy charger playing havoc with my keyboard
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I think he's matured (less keen) and improved from 2 to 3. The ground at Longchamp was also very soft, and 7f was too short for him. I think he's the one to beat given Ruling Court is off to Epsom, probably against The Lion In Winter.
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