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henry cecil
03 May 25 15:39
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Rule 1 when there a race with a slow pace - Do NOT sit out the back. Shoemark sat too far off the pace and should have won. If I was J Gosden i'd be livid with this 0.5 wit

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By:
blunder
When: 03 May 25 15:42
Seemed to sit there going well while others were pushing .My first thought is he should have won , but will resrve judgement to see what the I Q data says.
By:
tanglefoot
When: 03 May 25 15:44
Having a kip at the back,outridden by Buick
By:
formoftheace
When: 03 May 25 15:45
Grade 3
By:
sageform
When: 03 May 25 15:46
definitely seemed to be going best 2 furlongs out but Buick is a master of keeping some up his sleeve. I Was on Jonquil a/p and would have backed him today if he had been allowed to run by Juddmonte. No bet race today.
By:
chuckles
When: 03 May 25 15:46
He is way below the top rank of jockeys. He will not last long.
By:
De_man
When: 03 May 25 15:47
Pack him off to the circus...
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 03 May 25 15:49
He was on the winner's tail 2f out but got done for pace down into the dip and that's where the race was lost, not jockey error imo.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 03 May 25 15:52
Rico-Dangleflaps 03 May 25 15:50 
gold was cruising 2 out..shook it up and intially found nowt and got outpaced going into the dip.
By:
saddo
When: 03 May 25 15:52
Agree, both going well virtually alongside before the dip.
By:
uptheirons
When: 03 May 25 15:52
Spot on George B
By:
BrittleWish
When: 03 May 25 15:58
Shoemark didnt start riding until Buick was in the full drive, Gosden clearly unhappy w2ith the ride after the race and has every justification because on this ground the horse took 100 yards to get going. A poorly judged ride cost it the race
By:
uptheirons
When: 03 May 25 15:59
The horse took an age to pick up after cruising and the race was lost going into the dip
By:
De_man
When: 03 May 25 15:59
Up with pace and front rank ..not pulling his head off have the race he wins 2 lengths minimum... never had a turn of pace ... obvious even to a clown like weaver that need to be up in the van and even said it pre race ...awful awful ride ...idiotic ..if trainers orders also idiotic... if not his orders we ll know pretty soon as wont see skidmark with him long imv...
By:
De_man
When: 03 May 25 16:00
Spot on brittlewish
By:
uptheirons
When: 03 May 25 16:01
Its a hold up horse
By:
De_man
When: 03 May 25 16:02
Not a hold up horse...greys never quicken...needed to up the pace slowly from position in the van...wins easy then..
By:
De_man
When: 03 May 25 16:03
Shoulda gone through the gears rather than strangle it ...good position surrendered at the start...brutal ride start to finish imho
By:
De_man
When: 03 May 25 16:03
Havlin up next...
By:
jimmythewon
When: 03 May 25 16:04
The usual rubbish here when a horse finishes well. "Should have kept closer to the pace", "should have made his effort earlier" etc. Nonsense. The second was a length or less behind the winner for the first 5 furlongs. At the 2 furlong marker the winner quickened quite markedly in a way that none of the other runners could match. That took him into lead he was never going to lose. Shoemark was never going to catch him. Not any jocker error. The error in the race was probably Barzalona: did'nt seem to ride out for second.
By:
uptheirons
When: 03 May 25 16:04
"Greys never quicken"?
Further conversation with a moron is pointless
By:
basilbrush
When: 03 May 25 16:06
Clearly a very poor ride, even Gosden who never slags his jockeys was upset enough to condemn the ride. Time to move on and put the ride behind us.
By:
s.kenbo
When: 03 May 25 16:07
Greys never quicken"?
Further conversation with a moron is pointless


LaughLaughLaugh
By:
asparagus
When: 03 May 25 16:08
He sat still entering the dip whilst Buick got the revs up on the winner. Obviously should have won.
By:
DancingBraveTheBest
When: 03 May 25 16:09
How are you to know when push comes to shove if a horse is gunna pick up straight away.......Shoemark very unlucky and I feel for him.....did almost everything correct imoSad
By:
uptheirons
When: 03 May 25 16:13
BTW,there is little doubt that Buick is a better jockey
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 03 May 25 16:14
in craven which was a slower race it was last 3f out..cruised closer and quickened to win going away..nothing different today where it didnt quicken going into the dip..it was close enough if good enough..wants 10f.
By:
henry cecil
When: 03 May 25 16:28

May 3, 2025 -- 4:14PM, Rico-Dangleflaps wrote:


in craven which was a slower race it was last 3f out..cruised closer and quickened to win going away..nothing different today where it didnt quicken going into the dip..it was close enough if good enough..wants 10f.


Craven was a race with far less depth so the jockey has to be aware that off a slow pace he needs to be closer.

By:
CaptainCristy
When: 03 May 25 16:31
Even the trainer called it that Buick got first run and he was caught too far back.
By:
CaptainCristy
When: 03 May 25 16:31
Mentions the jockey, that’s all you need to know about his thoughts of the reason it was beat
By:
Davethehatt
When: 03 May 25 16:34
CrazyCrazyThere are sum mofo morons on here that was a crap ride he as following the ones to beat. Much too late look at how he closes in last furlong. I reckon we hit some Stevie’s wonders in here cretins
By:
NORTH BERWICK
When: 03 May 25 18:47
Looked a poor ride.As if he was dayydreaming while Buick got away. A bit of a nothing ride.
By:
trumper
When: 03 May 25 19:28
would buick, dettori,moore ,murphy  and 10 jockeys before them
have won on the fav, a definite yes,was it a bad ride no,but certainly not a good one.hes not a winner ,will never win a race that he shouldnt and today on the big stage he proved that
By:
formoftheace
When: 03 May 25 19:38
Amie Waugh (5) would have won on it tbh…
By:
11kv
When: 03 May 25 19:39
Cmon Dave ffs
By:
khyber kim
When: 03 May 25 19:53
George B and Rico call it right. I rarely post these days but I looked in for an opinion I respected.
By:
formoftheace
When: 03 May 25 19:58
Tongue in cheek 11k
By:
uptheirons
When: 03 May 25 20:24
Aceform backed the second Nap
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 03 May 25 21:21
asparagus Joined: 11 Jul 06
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He sat still entering the dip whilst Buick got the revs up on the winner. Obviously should have won.

#WALOFS
By:
trumper
When: 03 May 25 22:30
if the horse wants 10 furlongs why did he hold it out the back
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