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23 Apr 25
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It will be two years in July since that spectacular "don't win" and still no disciplinary investigation or findings.
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The principals concerned were either non-entities or surplus to the requirement in the sport. As the outcome could only draw attention on The BHA itself mainly eg the longevity of investigation/radio silence, type of probable censure, etc, the longer it's out of the public domain, the more likely it will be forgotten by all.
However, there's little or no concern shown on the well-being, emotional and mental implication of the young and probably naive jockey Kitts whose fledgling career is in tatters, and reputation totally tarnished. Whether it was self-induced or not the BHA does have a responsibility and accountability on the guidance of young jockeys coming through to ensure they are not waylaid by unscrupulous adult individuals solely for fraudulent profit only.
However, there's little or no concern shown on the well-being, emotional and mental implication of the young and probably naive jockey Kitts whose fledgling career is in tatters, and reputation totally tarnished. Whether it was self-induced or not the BHA does have a responsibility and accountability on the guidance of young jockeys coming through to ensure they are not waylaid by unscrupulous adult individuals solely for fraudulent profit only.
At last https://www.racingpost.com/news/britain/jockey-and-trainer-charged-with-deli...
The jockey and trainer are indicted, the owner is getting off scot-free apparently. All thes after two years (730 days/nights) of investigation. A case of stringing it on.
Incompetent is the only appropriate term for the Hapless BHA.
The full fury of the BHA will be felt by all concerned.
Chris Honour washed his hands of it at the time, now charged with lying to the Stewards.
Lifetime ban coming, if proven?
Lifetime ban coming, if proven?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abBYIR-xPWI
horse put Kitts in a terrible position, it was going that well he couldn't move a muscle on it or it would've won
horse put Kitts in a terrible position, it was going that well he couldn't move a muscle on it or it would've won
Why has it taken over 2 years for the dullards at racing's HQ to deal with this?
We see horses not running on their merits in just about every maiden and lower class handicap
on a daily basis. But if the trainer is SirIhavenoexplanationfortheapparentimprovementin form,
or Sirtheblinkersworkedtheoracle or SirI'venoideawhyhewas2/5I'mnotabettingmannudgenudgewinkwink
then the stewards simply note the trainer's 'explanation' and no action is taken.
The BHA is simply not fit for purpose.
We see horses not running on their merits in just about every maiden and lower class handicap
on a daily basis. But if the trainer is SirIhavenoexplanationfortheapparentimprovementin form,
or Sirtheblinkersworkedtheoracle or SirI'venoideawhyhewas2/5I'mnotabettingmannudgenudgewinkwink
then the stewards simply note the trainer's 'explanation' and no action is taken.
The BHA is simply not fit for purpose.
Good riddance to rubbish the game is hard enough without this …..
Trouble is formo... this is the BHA trying to make an example of some in order to maintain that
the sport's integrity is intact. They are plugging one hole in a seive!
the sport's integrity is intact. They are plugging one hole in a seive!
Been rancid since day one roggrain but we love the buzz……
Check the endless list of the warned off undesirables…..
Check the endless list of the warned off undesirables…..
There is not a jockey riding that has not been asked to give an "easy"by the Trainer and they sometimes fall in and win
However,this was clearly a "Thou shall not win"
However,this was clearly a "Thou shall not win"
Honestly don't think the trainer was involved....Jocks first ride for the yard at the instruction of the owner...trainer removes that owners horses from the stable the next day....Owner carries on free as a bird. The BHA really is some outfit.
Racing had one that liked powder,court,head butting,dragging colleagues from their mounts,pages of ‘ alleged ‘
Imo ruled the roost and probably retired a millionaire….
BHA have the bottle of a 7 year old tbh.
Imo ruled the roost and probably retired a millionaire….
BHA have the bottle of a 7 year old tbh.
The owner is innocent as Putin bombing Ukrain tbh….
Dylan Kitts deliberately prevented Hillsin from winning at Worcester in July 2023, with the rider stating he did so having been threatened before the race.
Reckon Micky Fitz among others twigged that one.
I tend to believe the lad TBH
Reckon Micky Fitz among others twigged that one.
I tend to believe the lad TBH
Dylan Kitts deliberately prevented Hillsin from winning at Worcester in July 2023, with the rider stating he did so having been threatened before the race.
Outlining the BHA’s case against Kitts, trainer Chris Honour and John Higgins, an associate of Hillsin’s owner Alan Clegg, in a disciplinary panel hearing which began in central London on Monday, Louis Weston KC said the rider had admitted to stopping the horse when first interviewed in October 2023.
Weston said: “Mr Kitts accepted the horse was given a stopping ride but went on to say he did so out of concern there was a threat by Mr Higgins, and confirmation for that was given [to him] by Chris Honour.”
Kitts, Honour and Higgins have been charged with intentionally ensuring Hillsin did not run on his merits in a 2m4f conditional jockeys’ handicap hurdle at Worcester on July 5, 2023, in which he finished third, beaten a length and a quarter.
The BHA said Kitts had been in contact with Higgins before the race. This included the rider being paid £100 by Higgins, via his son-in-law, professional footballer Ashley Barnes, following his third-placed finish at Exeter on April 21, 2023, when Higgins and Barnes reportedly won £5,000.
Hillsin (noted): finished a tenderly-handled third at Worcester on Wednesday
Hillsin (circled): finished a tenderly handled third at Worcester in 2023
Credit: Sky Sports Racing
The BHA said Honour had been keen to make “a good impression” on the connections of Hillsin, who had recently moved two horses to his yard, particularly as Hillsin was unable to run in his intended first start for the yard at Newton Abbot, when he had got loose at home and had to be withdrawn.
Honour is also said to have spoken with Higgins 70 times on the phone between May 17, 2023 and July 5, 2023 compared to 35 times with Clegg, the registered owner of Hillsin.
Weston said: “Mr Higgins said to Mr Honour that if things go well then more horses could come his way, flashing under his nose his wealthy son-in-law.
“His first opportunity to shine at Newton Abbot had gone awry and he wanted to make a good impression for new owners.”
Kitts has been separately charged with a breach of rule (F) 37 – failure to obtain the best possible placing on Hillsin.
Honour has been charged with “encouraging Kitts to give a stopping ride”, not giving the rider sufficient instructions to obtain the best possible placing, and misleading stewards after the race.
Higgins, who will not be attending the hearing, and Honour deny the charges against them. Clegg has not been charged by the BHA.
The hearing continues.
Outlining the BHA’s case against Kitts, trainer Chris Honour and John Higgins, an associate of Hillsin’s owner Alan Clegg, in a disciplinary panel hearing which began in central London on Monday, Louis Weston KC said the rider had admitted to stopping the horse when first interviewed in October 2023.
Weston said: “Mr Kitts accepted the horse was given a stopping ride but went on to say he did so out of concern there was a threat by Mr Higgins, and confirmation for that was given [to him] by Chris Honour.”
Kitts, Honour and Higgins have been charged with intentionally ensuring Hillsin did not run on his merits in a 2m4f conditional jockeys’ handicap hurdle at Worcester on July 5, 2023, in which he finished third, beaten a length and a quarter.
The BHA said Kitts had been in contact with Higgins before the race. This included the rider being paid £100 by Higgins, via his son-in-law, professional footballer Ashley Barnes, following his third-placed finish at Exeter on April 21, 2023, when Higgins and Barnes reportedly won £5,000.
Hillsin (noted): finished a tenderly-handled third at Worcester on Wednesday
Hillsin (circled): finished a tenderly handled third at Worcester in 2023
Credit: Sky Sports Racing
The BHA said Honour had been keen to make “a good impression” on the connections of Hillsin, who had recently moved two horses to his yard, particularly as Hillsin was unable to run in his intended first start for the yard at Newton Abbot, when he had got loose at home and had to be withdrawn.
Honour is also said to have spoken with Higgins 70 times on the phone between May 17, 2023 and July 5, 2023 compared to 35 times with Clegg, the registered owner of Hillsin.
Weston said: “Mr Higgins said to Mr Honour that if things go well then more horses could come his way, flashing under his nose his wealthy son-in-law.
“His first opportunity to shine at Newton Abbot had gone awry and he wanted to make a good impression for new owners.”
Kitts has been separately charged with a breach of rule (F) 37 – failure to obtain the best possible placing on Hillsin.
Honour has been charged with “encouraging Kitts to give a stopping ride”, not giving the rider sufficient instructions to obtain the best possible placing, and misleading stewards after the race.
Higgins, who will not be attending the hearing, and Honour deny the charges against them. Clegg has not been charged by the BHA.
The hearing continues.
say one thing for Kitts.
at least he didn't look over his shoulder to see where the "winner" was, and when it was obvious the "winner" wasn't there and he was actually sitting on the "winner", he decided to jump off.
with every man and his fooking dog watching him jump off the "winner".
at least he didn't look over his shoulder to see where the "winner" was, and when it was obvious the "winner" wasn't there and he was actually sitting on the "winner", he decided to jump off.
with every man and his fooking dog watching him jump off the "winner".
kitts should send a video of that to the BHA, say i know what i did was pretty bad.
but have a look at this, and he's still riding and his father is still training.
but have a look at this, and he's still riding and his father is still training.
sets a precedent.
you can do that and carry on. what kitts did wasn't any worse. if anything it was less obvious, but not by much.
you can do that and carry on. what kitts did wasn't any worse. if anything it was less obvious, but not by much.
Has all this dirt ever happened before in the racing industry ? Lol….
Threat,whispers….meeting in dirty holes …..rancid with reptiles….imo.
Threat,whispers….meeting in dirty holes …..rancid with reptiles….imo.
The relevant point is,one case is a BHA Case and the other a HRI possible Case
Was the threat along the lines of "You'll never ride for me again" or along the lines of, "You'll never walk unaided again"
When Captain Black invented the pink on the exchange the rodents were given multiple @rgasms for life….
It didn't do you any good then,Aceform
You don't have to be crooked to Lay.
You do,however, need to have some idea of what you are doing.
You don't have to be crooked to Lay.
You do,however, need to have some idea of what you are doing.
jock ruins career for a 100 and footballer ashley barnes threatens him if he doesnt throw race
with the snippets online ,and regards the price of the horse on the day ,its hard to work out why the connectins of gone to such lengths to win a few £, considering how the horse ran, they could have have won just by backing him to win,obviously decided to take any risk element out of it,so obviously wont have been ther 1st or last time theyve cheated
Does anyone really believe what the parties say? We know withholding horses and not allowing them to run on their merit happens most of the time. It's just how blatant, and whether the rides would be referred to BHA or not.
This has taken 2 years to get to this stage. The Sheikh Mo and one of his trainers took considerably less. Which is more prolific and detrimental to horseracing? Sheikh Mo or Kitts?
This has taken 2 years to get to this stage. The Sheikh Mo and one of his trainers took considerably less. Which is more prolific and detrimental to horseracing? Sheikh Mo or Kitts?
Horse would have won PULLING A CART , 11-1 was there no thoughts of Just backing it to Win , it won a couple of races season after , was there any betting/Lay involved in this Caper or what was Going on ?
Kitts I was listening to and thought some Reason in what he was saying , till I heard he had the horses name tatooed on his Arse , A DAY AT THE RACES 2 all we need is groucho to appear
Kitts I was listening to and thought some Reason in what he was saying , till I heard he had the horses name tatooed on his Arse , A DAY AT THE RACES 2 all we need is groucho to appear
Dylan Kitts was charged and found guilty of stopping the horse. The associate of the owner was also found guilty of stopping the horse.
The trainer of the horse requested the withdrawal of the owner's horses post this track saga. The trainer was charged, but found not guilty.
But, the owner of the horse was never charged. How can the BHA reconcile these two absurdities? What a pathetic outcome after two years!
The trainer of the horse requested the withdrawal of the owner's horses post this track saga. The trainer was charged, but found not guilty.
But, the owner of the horse was never charged. How can the BHA reconcile these two absurdities? What a pathetic outcome after two years!
Somebody had nicked the price overnight and presumably were being taught a lesson for doing so.
A much better ploy would have been to jump three and pull up.
Safer all round
A much better ploy would have been to jump three and pull up.
Safer all round
There clearly wasn't evidence to connect the guilty parties,
Odd it may seem but the BHA would have examined any links to show otherwise
Odd it may seem but the BHA would have examined any links to show otherwise
It's akin to a drug dealer being charged, and found guilty, but the drug importer / supplier was not even implicated. This shows the agency ie BHA is incompetent of the highest level; the boss gets off completely scot-free, the foot soldiers cop it all.
Implauasible's grasp of the law is sadly lacking as usual
...... Warned off for life, no other options imo.
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