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Munter 69
28 Mar 25 16:18
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Am i the only one who gets chronic issues with this (Live view accessed via Gruss) and is there any cures please....The spinning wheel of doom keeps poping up on ATR or on RTV the pic keeps going blurry....Frustrating as f.... Ta for any help...
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Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 28, 2025 3:36 PM GMT
any 3rd party security softwear running? is pc clean ?
Report eightbo March 28, 2025 3:48 PM GMT
got buffering issues viewing with vpn too, and the RTV tracks don't ever load lol
Report brassneck March 28, 2025 3:51 PM GMT
i think its a 3rd party taking the betsShocked
And the mass evacuation of customers is caused because of the rotation of horse race positions in the active marketsShocked
but nobody at betfair listensSad
Report top2rated March 28, 2025 5:05 PM GMT
  Someone is typing, please be patient...
Report duffy March 28, 2025 5:09 PM GMT
Gruss video ATR pics...dodgy
Gruss video RTV pics...OK

Live video menu on both....OK

IMO.
Report swiftynifty April 23, 2025 7:33 PM BST
t2r, have you finished yet?
Report swiftynifty April 23, 2025 7:33 PM BST
Anyone else had it very jumpy last few days on Chrome?
Report HappyHibby April 23, 2025 7:54 PM BST
RTV LV been hideously bad here recently swifty...

getting  to the 'can i really be arsed with this anymore now' tbh.
Report HappyHibby April 23, 2025 7:54 PM BST
missed the word 'staged' tbh.
Report HappyHibby April 23, 2025 7:55 PM BST
'stage' ffs.
Report swiftynifty April 23, 2025 8:01 PM BST
The blank screens is one thing, the jumping is new to me recently, you don't know if what jamee says about it respooling and catching up always happens or you're watching it even further behind...unless you want eyes everywhere watching a delayed RTV on Sky at the same time. I agree it does make it all just become 'why bother' territory, I doubt the GPS/drones jump mid-race.
Report Lazza7 April 23, 2025 8:01 PM BST
ruk been crap for  a lot of races last 2-3 days here
Report Lazza7 April 23, 2025 8:02 PM BST
on firefox and chrome
Report swiftynifty April 23, 2025 8:08 PM BST
Lazza, (not) pleased to know it's not just me, just seems they never find a long term fix.
Report steerforth April 23, 2025 8:10 PM BST
Same here on Firefox. Got so bad I've just waited for the replays to load up on RP or TF and watch "as live". Don't bet in running so not an issue but good luck to anyone trying that
Report steerforth April 23, 2025 8:14 PM BST
The jumping issue is only with vision. The commentary carries on uninterrupted, picture freezes, then jumps back in to match the sound, freezes again, and same cycle again. Tried everything, but I don't think its my end or anything on the PC.
Report swiftynifty April 23, 2025 8:15 PM BST
I've noticed it's happening on the US feeds now as well which has never been the case previously.
Report HappyHibby April 23, 2025 8:18 PM BST
i've had the glitching for ages swifty...

then it seemed better for about 6 weeks...

but it's back now and quite frankly it's worse than it's ever been...

i think i had ONE RTV race today that was fine (at Ludlow)...

the rest were jumping all over the shop...

just another reason to say 'why am i putting myself through this agony ?' tbh.
Report HappyHibby April 23, 2025 8:20 PM BST
doesn't appear to affect EVERYONE swifty...

like i said mine was fine for 6 weeks...

absolute cr@p now tho...

i thought about mentioning it to Betfair but what's the point...?

thanx for your feedback...

we'll pass it on to the LV team...

all that cr@p.
Report swiftynifty April 23, 2025 8:25 PM BST
I've not had as many issues with it as you Hibby, I put that down to pure luck with servers etc, but this jumping thing is recent. Just another glitch to add to the list. Whether it's the same with all bookies/exchange feeds, using the 'third party' etc etc, I don't know.
Report swiftynifty April 23, 2025 8:28 PM BST
Some of the liquidity tonight has been so dire, if you're not as near to live as possible, the scraps won't buy you an egg sandwich.
Report mitolo April 23, 2025 8:31 PM BST
its obvious you have been singled out and suffer horribly because notfair have decided to target you. outrageous

give it up, for your own sake. its making you unhappy

walk away and find another hobby. i say this reluctantly as one of the few joys of the forum is reading your posts, shining as they do like a beacon of truth through the murk. but we will understand, even though your exit will be a great loss
Report mitolo April 23, 2025 8:32 PM BST
get out the way numpty. was addressing hippy
Report swiftynifty April 23, 2025 8:37 PM BST
type faster, you only had 10 minutes.

You using BFLV or drones now?
Report HappyHibby April 23, 2025 8:40 PM BST
oh i agree swifty...

RTV told me it was to do with how your internet connection connects to the cloud (or something like that)...

it's all very odd if you ask me...

i've had it for ages on and off but i have no idea how it was 'fine' for 6 weeks then all of a sudden it's really bad again...

and as you say in running liquidity is pretty bad now (well very bad actually) and any sort of break up ain't good (even if it doesn't lose any time)...

i hear some folk say 'buy a fantastic laptop with a fantastic CPU in it' etc...

and yet Mr.Hunt has an old beaten up laptop and it works fine...

i think Big Cat is on the 'networking' side of things so he could probably explain it much better than me tbh.
Report uptheirons April 23, 2025 8:53 PM BST
Unhappyhibby bleating again.
How unusual
Report mitolo April 23, 2025 9:39 PM BST
too intererested in saint-saens on r3. and a remarkably fine romanian red

left the drones club longer go. amazed so many still use em. although im useless so it could be me

hippy is becoming a bit of a leg end. relentless

to borrow from plum again; 'on the whole it is not difficult to tell the difference between a ray of sunshine and a scotsman with a grievance'
Report longbridge April 24, 2025 9:42 AM BST
@happyhibby

"RTV told me it was to do with how your internet connection connects to the cloud (or something like that).."

AIUI RTV/ATR use a CDN (Content Delivery Network).  So they stream the video to the 'master' in the CDN, the master then streams to a number of 'slaves' located all over the country or around the world.

When you click on LV on here, you connect to one of those 'slaves' - which won't be the same slave as another poster.  So I can be having a horrible jumpy experience, while you have perfect video.

"i hear some folk say 'buy a fantastic laptop with a fantastic CPU in it' etc..."

I can't see that helping - if you look at the video player in Task Manager when it is running it uses very little of your computer's resources.
Report HappyHibby April 24, 2025 9:56 AM BST
cheers for that longbridge...

i am assuming that is the fastest way to get it from racecourse to my living room so i don't like having a pop at RTV (especially when you consider the nonsense we get from ATR)...

but it is a bit annoying tbh...

especially when it's been pretty good for 6 weeks and only recently gone back to being poor...

in fact the last few days have been really bad...

anyway it would appear it's just the way it is and it's a case of take it or leave it...

anyway cheers for the info longbridge.
Report longbridge April 24, 2025 10:19 AM BST
the fastest way to get the LV from the racecourse to you would be to directly point-to-point stream it from there to you.

But that doesn't scale - RTV couldn't support tens of thousands of connections all to be served simultaneously - so the CDN serves to 'fan-out' the stream.  At least that's AIUI - I'm a techie by profession but networking is not my speciality.
Report HappyHibby April 24, 2025 10:30 AM BST
i kind of understand it now tbh longbridge...

it would appear it is as fast as it can be on RTV therefore any 'glitches' i (and others) get just have to be put up with i suppose...

even if it does end up with me tearing my hair out come 9pm.
Report HappyHibby April 24, 2025 10:42 AM BST
just one thing longbridge...

who/what decides what 'slaves' each individual user gets ?

and can an individual user 'change' slaves themselves ?

probably asking daft Q's but when things are as bad as they have been recently you have to ask if there are any options out there to make it better...

and as the 6 week 'good' period shows me things can be better than they have been recently.
Report longbridge April 24, 2025 10:50 AM BST
I honestly don't know - I'll see if I can find someone who knows this stuff in proper detail and ask.
Report HappyHibby April 24, 2025 10:52 AM BST
that would be good to hear longbridge...

ta.
Report HappyHibby April 24, 2025 4:20 PM BST
after a decent start RTV LV is now spluttering all over the place...

no idea how it can just deteriorate like this...

wits end stuff now.
Report HappyHibby April 24, 2025 4:23 PM BST
Beverley ok...

KIlbeggan / Warwick / Perth dreadful...

no idea how that is possible tbh.
Report uptheirons April 24, 2025 4:25 PM BST
Perfect for me .
Have you got dial up speed internet unhappyhibby?
Report HappyHibby April 25, 2025 10:34 AM BST
swifty...

spoke to my man at Betfair this morning...

he has raised this with the Betfair LV bloke who speaks to RMG...

can't promise anything obviously but at least it has been raised to probably the highest level we can get to...

RMG know about this (i know that as i've spoken to them myself)...

but i think it's better someone at Betfair speaks to them as in running is Betfair specific.
Report uptheirons April 25, 2025 11:36 AM BST
The very best of luck with this venture.
I am more concerned about "head on city" at Perth because of the lack of an extra camera which makes I/R russian roulette once they turn in.
Report swiftynifty April 25, 2025 12:33 PM BST
Hibby, that's good...although I won't be holding my breath...we've only been here a few times before!

re. other bookies, I think some of them have rolled out in-running betting, so they should at least want a stable video too.

uptheirons, head-on view tracks is just handing money over to the drone boys. btw, are you a season ticket holder?
Report uptheirons April 25, 2025 1:08 PM BST
Not for some years swifty as I am based in Warwickshire.
Report HappyHibby April 25, 2025 1:25 PM BST
let's hope they at least try their best to get it sorted swifty...

no idea if they can 'do' it in another way which won't add any delays to it...

i rather doubt it...

what i don't understand is how it can have been fine for me for a number of weeks...

and then all of a sudden it is unbearable again...

the odd glitch here or there i can accept...

but a dozen per jumps race and it really grinds me down tbh...

and some of the glitches can last a good 2 or 3 seconds for me so come the end of the race you're kind of glad it's race over...

which ain't good if you want to try and win a few £...

anyway let's see if theycan get something done about it but like you i ain't holding my breath.
Report HappyHibby April 25, 2025 2:58 PM BST
how's it today swifty ?
Report swiftynifty April 25, 2025 3:03 PM BST
sandown jumpy
Report swiftynifty April 25, 2025 3:04 PM BST
and poor pic quality
Report HappyHibby April 25, 2025 3:09 PM BST
mine has been a lot better today...

not perfect but nowhere near as bad as it has been...

have you tried this ?

click on the race...

you get the glitching...

click on another race...

then click on the original race again...

i've seen that work on occasion...

no idea why that would be the case but it has definitely worked for me occasionally.
Report swiftynifty April 25, 2025 3:14 PM BST
it's all pot luck, had same race open on chrome and gruss link(think it might be chrome now anyway , was edge for a bit), both hopped around.
Report uptheirons April 25, 2025 3:24 PM BST
Out of curiosity,What type of Broadband do you have and what does it deliver,swifty
Report swiftynifty April 25, 2025 3:29 PM BST
900 mbps down, 100 up.

less glitchy when I play from London with just 100 download.

I'm of the view it's all distance to servers, which may change from day to day.
Report uptheirons April 25, 2025 3:55 PM BST
It's a mystery.
I would point out that I don't use BFLV for ATR Flat Courses
Report swiftynifty April 25, 2025 3:59 PM BST
I agree, it can glitch all day on the ATR ones, but a shame the bug has now struck the RTV ones.
Report brassneck April 25, 2025 4:16 PM BST
its filtersShockedShockedShockedShockedShocked
Report brassneck April 25, 2025 4:18 PM BST
you need to reset your filtersWink
Report uptheirons April 25, 2025 4:51 PM BST
Thanks Brassdick
Report Munter 69 April 25, 2025 10:05 PM BST
how does one reset filters plse ......Ta
Report brassneck April 25, 2025 10:21 PM BST
Betfair had a notice up on the football fixtures yesterday.
Report brassneck April 25, 2025 10:25 PM BST
1-apply filters,2 reset filters.
Report swiftynifty April 25, 2025 10:40 PM BST
brass, are you doctoring your selfies?
Report HappyHibby April 26, 2025 5:39 PM BST
RTV LV been very poor here today...

first race at Sandown was perfect...

after that constant glitching.
Report uptheirons April 26, 2025 6:28 PM BST
i will have to accept that unhappyhibby is not simply a bleating sweatie
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