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Oneten... Why do you keep making this nonsensical argument. I don't ride horses but that doesn't mean I can't appreciate how difficult it is to ride a race horse. People like you always pick up on the negative opinions and use it as stick to try to sound morally superior. I am also very complimentary about Harry Cobden on these pages. Am I talking out my arse because I've never ridden a horse?
Try looking at the evidence and form your own opinion rather than being obtuse and denigrating other people who might differ from the narrative. This is why I don't bother with this forum much as there are too many smart asses who love to abuse people. |
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One thing for sure is that horses arent robots. As a rider you can ask them the question to pick up but if they decide not to what can you do. They gom down or get away with it. Certainly not the fault of the jockey
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Apologies if you feel I was being a smart arse , I don't believe I was .
I most certainly have not abused anyone , just discussing with you and others backwards and forwards, replying to your posts.. I thought it was all friendly , it was certainly meant as such. The most abusive post on this thread was your original post calling for Hnedersons owners to step in and calling NB a'rank amateur' so when you start calling other people smart arses and abusive maybe you should look a little closer to home ? |
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Maybe you should get your head out of your own backside oneten, arrogance and patronising even in your reply to the OP!! I have called him out many times but you still try to put yourself above anyone else with an opinion and have failed to address his opinion about not needing to be able to ride to have one?
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Perhaps the owners of State Man need to "step in". I don`t think so.
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2.40 Cheltenham. Nico v Brian Hughes.
Allows Hughes to get the rail despite being on the outside. Allows Hughes to get first run on him despite having a lot of horse underneath him. Has to ease up into the final flight as given himself no room. Has to switch after last fence costing valuable yards. Not a fluent jump at the last costing momentum. Rides his usual untidy weak stone hands finish. The difference between a top class jockey and Nico. Out Nico on Hughes horse and vice versa and it will be much closer. |
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A fair comment Feltfair, i.e how many times has Nico been beaten on Constitution Hill or Jonbon, was Ruby sacked after Annie Power?
The trainers know what they have as do the owners, otherwise they would be on here skint like plenty who howl at the odd mishap. |
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He wouldn’t look out of place in the amateur race tbh….similar style that never changes imv
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BTW Newmarket, they never jumped a fence in that race, defending you against oneten just became untenable if that is your knee jerk fixation!!
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Cumbersome and stiff in a finish….not good viewing tbh
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Luke Morris is hardly good viewing Quixall but like Nico his stats stand scrutiny unlike yourself?
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Come you have followed the game for years you know he’s bad……ffs..
Posh trainer with plenty of posh owners take to his posh upbringing….. |
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You seem to have an issue with "Posh" rather than an objective view, why? What does posh mean to you that has put such a chip on your shoulder?
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Watch Mark Walsh and compare with the other person ffs
You couldn’t make it up…..a horseman with style ….. |
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Does not alter the stats Quixall nor answers the question of your chip about posh?
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Nothing against posh folks quite frankly I couldn’t give a toss….nico looks amateurish in the saddle …..
He admits to almost decking CH during a canter over the last … |
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Fair enough Quixall but why keep playing the same tune about "Posh" if that is the case? The likes of Sam Waley Cohen might be termed posh by some but the so called have more balls than most do they not?
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Will Lucky Place continue the Forum system? Nico looking a mess but winning, hope so tbh although ew!!
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What was galling was Henderson saying it was because of the start that Jonbon lost what a pile of horse shot he lost because NDB was dreadful in his tactile if you want to get a little bit of cover then come inside and get cover don’t ride him on the outside all the way through to the end …it was a shocking to say the least no other excuse needed let’s be honest it was Fechin Dreadful..
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About as stylish as Cagliari on the dance floor tbf….
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https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1231744695462625&set=a.453852376585198
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Stuffed again in a close fight
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Always good when a Henderson bubble bursts.
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i backed lulamba and thought he had won it, was wondering why nobody was taking my ir short lay
the drone must have shown Poniros flying up the run-in cant blame Nico for that at all |
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Finding a way to lose...The Nico de Boinville story. Once again he has lost on the best horse on the day. All his little mistakes on positioning the horse, when to go for home, being weak in a finish all add up to a half length defeat.
Prime Barry Geraghty has 5 Henderson winners this week. |
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Fitzy nearly in tears at the defeat of Lulamba...
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He has a good wedge on I assume !
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^^^so am I
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Newmarket-spurs14 Mar 25 13:34Joined: 26 Jun 12 | Topic/replies: 437 | Blogger: Newmarket-spurs's blog
Finding a way to lose...The Nico de Boinville story. Once again he has lost on the best horse on the day. All his little mistakes on positioning the horse, when to go for home, being weak in a finish all add up to a half length defeat. Prime Barry Geraghty has 5 Henderson winners this week. Can't blame Nico there... Think Mullins entering all those horses some which have never seen a hurdle was bad form. Forced the hand of any fancied horses as they had no option to go forward early on to make sure they were out of the way of horses which had never seen a hurdle. Set it up a bit for a closer. |
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Theoneandonly doesnt matter how Nico rode it, if it got beat its his fault according to Newmarket Spurs
it was under pressure turning for home and still nearly won, Mullins darts proved to strong in the end |
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Grade 3 favourite with trainer and owner tbh….
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What did nico do wrong there ? Had his horse positioned well throughout, put his mount into a winning position over the last and came to win his race, beat the fav , then got done by a fast finisher out wide.
Nothing wrong with that ride in my opinion , unless you backed it and you're pocket talking.. |
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I’m not talking about one race in particular it’s over the piece…..
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The mistake 2 out cost it, EID was able to cross it and Nico had to switch outside but the horse came right back on the bridle and I think at that point Nico thought he had everything covered and he sat and waited until approaching the final flight.
The problem was when he did finally commit the horse he took time to get going, perhaps if he committed off the home bend he might have had a couple lengths in hand by the time he got to the final flight...all conjecture though, but do think he was the best horse though. |
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duffy - this is an excellent analysis and I would add one more thing.... Watch him in the drive position, he sits high in the saddle and his left arm is static whilst he waves the whip in his right. It looks ungainly and I can't for the life me imagine it is as effective as Jonjo O'Neil's style. Nico looks like an amateur and that's what he is.
It's not one race its countless times he has screwed up when it is a fine line between success and failure. He lost again on the best horse. |
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NDB detractors
REELING! as he brings home bacon 1st at kempers |
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Nico tried to get that good thing beat at the last hurdle.
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i wonder what qualifies some of the critics posting on here... how many races have you rode in.... i sometimes despair!!
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