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10+ years ago jonbon would have been on the floor in clarence house chelt & again today
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CH could have come down in jan
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Tape tickled Jonbons nose…..ffs
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think most can see through the bs
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Ballyburn took one with him in Kempton.
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They can all put a bad one in, but when I've watched jonbon in his races to my memory he is normally foot perfect or have I remembered it wrong ?
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you've got dementia he,s never put a clear round in over fences,ask Nico,Bowen or Coleman if you don't believe anyone else
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For those non riders, horses arent robots. They have a mind of their own and do stupid things. The horse chose to stand off the fence and the rider has to do his best to stay in the plate. He did well to recover. If you look at his previous races he has done this before around Cheltenham. You can school a horse all you want but on the day the horse still makes the choice as to how it will jump. Like human beings sometimes if they have been upset or get startled they lose focus and confidence and for me this is exactly what happened to Jonbon today.
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Just watching it again and you can clearly see that they were going a stride too quick for him, Nico was niggling him between fences to maintain his place and that led to him asking for a big jump which he paid for.
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Jonbon usually puts down when awkward. This season he appeared to have moved forward and more relaxed before the race. He was never a Best Mate. Kauto took plenty of chances and indeed fell in the very same race. It is a coincidence that so many of the galacticos threw their chances away with poor jumping in the space of two days.
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For Jonbon supporters it was a horrible watch. Horlicks of a start (not Nico's fault) but Jonbon was not in an ideal position and almost jumped into the horse front of him at first. Ok position not ideal butI don't understand why Nico was asking the horse up at every fence and Jonbon was putting in some huge leaps until saying no at the 9th. A far better strategy would have been to creep into the race and use Jonbons trademark strong finish. In fact I'm amazed he finished 2nd after that horrendous mistake. Not Nico's finest moment seemed to panic.
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Nico put the horse's nose on the tape..have a look at the replay,he nudges the horse up to the tape just before it's released.
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Thought Nico was unfortunic,Jonbon did really well to finish second.
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He had to keep asking him because he was being niggled to hold his place which in turn means he can't afford the luxury of getting in close and fiddling one because the loss of ground on a horse already being niggled to go the pace would finish him anyway IMO.
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well the race was a lot more competitive than what he has been used to. the winner was back to his best today and could well have beaten Jonbon anyway. certainly would have been going better than him approaching the last
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the horse didnt choose to go long it was nico who asked for the long one...and the way he finished perhaps he could have come from further back without trying to lie up with the pace, but think marine would have won anyway
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nico had a brain frt on the quicker ground he saw those travelling well around him. the horse could have been just presented at fences and won it he had so much in hand. getting 2nd after such a howler shows his class. another fking anti-climax the best horse not winning.
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Don't know, it's a sprint race in effect, if he wanted to play safe he would have had half the track to make up, you've got to lie up and the horse was uncomfortable trying to do so, Nico was clearly niggling him in between fences, he still got it all wrong at that particular fence though, MN went for a big one himself and Jonbon took off from another half length behind him.
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well i dont think he would have half the track to make up. i think a few lengths he could have mowed them all down late easily imo he stays so well for a 2 miler.
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his last ride on him wasnt great either firing him at every fence it took too many risks that he got away with. there is an in-between if you have a horse who is so far ahead of his peers why fire him at every fence he can make so much ground if ridden more within himself.
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he tried to repeat his last run but this time the probabilities caught up with him.
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those who went off too quick came back he ploughed through them giving them a huge head start.
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The rest collapsed whilst he got a breather because Nico basically accepted it and gave up so he was able to pick the rest up, but he made absolutely no impression on the winner, from the third last to the line MN was quicker than Jonbon despite being in the guts of the race the whole way, if Jonbon had been in the race the whole way with the issue he was having with the pace he'd probably have been back peddling at the end as well.
Even with the naked eye it's clear to see that MN was very strong and went further away from the last to the line from Jonbon. |
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back-peddling? dont think so you will rarely see a better staying 2 miler.
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green running in 4/5 runner fields in slow ground plenty of room time for Nico to fire him in to fences ,today he had 4 in front jumping going better and looking where energy finished the last race wasn't worth a row of beans
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