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bg still not supplied a scintilla of evidence for a conspiracy
why did the kgb conclude there was no conspiracy? do you know better? people like you just so want to believe. is there a conspiracy you havent signed up for? and why arent there any involving russia? you dont think its up to no good? and why no covid conspiracy? if a lab in the u.s. had let out a virus that caused worldwide carnage i suspect youd be all over it. but you aint you are a fool and a friend to tyrants with your nonsense |
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why did the kgb conclude there was no conspiracy?
Hang on, don't tell me... They went to Dallas and interviewed all the witnesses? Or went up to people on Dealey Plaza and Elm Street and asked in a strong eastern european accent: did ewe see anywon on de glassy knowall? Well, can't argue with that, can we? |
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ham sick of telling yus all man...believe fck all u read and fck all ya telt but everything ewe sea.
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the kgb was the biggest and most nasty and devious secret police organisation there has ever been. it was brutal in its methods and its tentacles were, and are, worldwide. if you think it didnt get it but you do, you are crackers
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Yeah guys, don't listen to Mark Lane who got off his @rse and did countless interviews with actual witnesses, or Jim Garrison the DA who risked his reputation, career and life to expose the bullsh*t, just believe what the KBG had to say.
Whoodafortit, madtolo licking the dangly bits off the KGB's arris  |
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i loathe it. its a state terror machine. at the height of the cold war the kgb was lying cheating stealing and murdering on a grand scale and was desperate to make the u.s. look bad
mark lane is an unreliable witness. and youve still not come up with any evidence |
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madtolo in one breath tells us he believes what the KGB had to say and in the next breath tells us that they were devious.
Okay, I'll make a note that, KGB: devious troof tellers. |
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you really dont understand the cold war do you? the kgb did all it could to undermine the west and u.s. (the 'main enemy' was its designation for it, and still is)
if there was any truth in the conspiracy theyd have made it known still youve supplied no evidence its like talking to an infant with you |
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madeleine mccann been found yet?
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I think it's *YOU* who fails to understand.
if there was any truth in the conspiracy theyd have made it known Made it known to who, exactly? The media in the USA went after Jim Garrison, so they were hardly likely to report anything that strayed from the official report. And after the American press had done a hit piece on Garrison, he got the courts to order NBC to give him the right to reply, and his 30 minute response is available to view here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqo2c_SxQag Watch it, dopey. still youve supplied no evidence Mark Lane and Jim Garrison did that. You should have called yourself impossible123. |
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to the entire world. it spread lies about the u.s but didnt bother with this nugget?
you really dont get it. they did not. no evidence of a conspiracy at all. who was it? which high-ranking state agents were willing to risk death to kill the wildly popular president? and why? and what a crazy way of going about it. hes on heavy medication. easy job. but no, lets do in broad daylihgt with maximum witnesses. id want some concrete evidence for that. but you aint got any. you just want to believe, and you do you saying unbearable is boring? |
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Interesting debate tbf.
I'm not by nature a conspiracy theorist,as I don't think the establishment is that clever. But the Kennedy assassination still leaves me wondering tbh. Oswald mixed with a variety of people left-wing,right-wing and downright sleazy in the months prior to the shooting. Then how and why did Jack Ruby,a figure known to have links to organised crime,get to shoot Oswald live on TV,if my memory serves me correctly. mitolo and the Warren Commission could be right but I think a lot of us,and a lot of future historians,will wonder.Just as they still do about the death of William Rufus,to take just one example. And that was nearly 1000 years ago. |
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youve gone off the boat theory, which is what started all this nonsense
do you believe the owners sabotaged the titanic? |
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anyone could have shot oswald..there were dozens of men floating about the scene.
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Hang on, who to believe here, good men who were heavily involved in investigating the case at the time, or any number of reliable witnesses who contradicted the Warren Commission's 'fairytale'.
Or some nutjob on an internet forum 60 years later telling me he believes whatever the devious KGB put out about it. Tricky one. So let's just imagine the scenario: KGB: the deep state assassinated JFK. Western press: ha ha, more Soviet lies / propaganda. Jim Garrison is a Russian agent. Or the Soviets: we've just narrowly avoided a nuclear confrontation with America, so what to do? Yeah, let's risk another by accusing them of assassinating their own president? Aye, righty ho. |
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wasnt expecting the salmon inquisition see earlier please. thers simply no evidence, as i keep boring on about. lho was an extremely unhappy loser who defected to the ussr and tried to become an agent later. he was told to do one, as he was too flaky. thats fact. his own wife said so ruby is not proof of anything. if they are into bumping him off, dont you think it was the most ham-fisted deranged and wacky way to do it? imagine risking the chair with a plan like that? its just beyond bonkers. so you need heavy proof for it. but theres none. historians have gone over this relentlessly and concluded its all bollox the death of redbeard is a new one. i dont think norman recording methods stretched beyond tapestries, quite tricky to knock up on the day |
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evidence please bg
you calling me a nutjob is rich i dont believe every crackpot theory going. you do. you think richard d halls film about the manchester arena massacre being the work of the state is worthy of discussion on this forum. NUTJOB |
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OJ Simpson was innocent.
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In madtolo's tiny little brain, we live in a world where no official line can be questioned because they would never tell us anything but the truth. You silly little man.
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if its tiny its also little. still no evidence. and ad hominem attacks always a sign of defeat
prob wiv you bg is you dont know anything and are susceptible to any old cobblers because you dont have any terms of reference. putin tells nothing but lies and ive never seen anything from you about this. nor have you encountered a conspiracy emanating from that direction, despite people dying in all sorts of wacky ways worldwide why did you put up richard d halls film as something worthy of discussion? |
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And what are your 'terms of reference', the KGB? Anti-Russian propaganda books?
why did you put up richard d halls film as something worthy of discussion? What do you mean by this? I started a thread and posted the link to his documentary? Then you are a liar because I did no such thing as it is not for me to do so. So let me correct you. I think, iirc, I mentioned the court case to Rico on a thread, as Hall had previously done a documentary on the McCann case. Which you then jumped on, and I've since told you a few times what I think: I've seen the documentary and he raised some interesting points using evidence from the night that is in the public domain. That is all. , |
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And btw, Hall faced no criminal charges from the police for his documentary, he lost a civil case some time after it had been released based on how he'd gone about his work, and this had been preceded by him being doorstepped by the BBC.
Hall argued it was justified on grounds of investigative journalism, the court disagreed. |
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by terms of refernce i meant that you have nothing to compare and have no knowledge. theres no need for anti-russian propaganda books. its all there, clear and obvious. and youve never read a book on the subject anyway. have you? name a few if you have
you say 'I started a thread and posted the link to his documentary?' no. you said it and then accuseed me of lying about something you posted. well done rubbish. you asked what ricardo thought of it. the fact you even contemplate it as worthy of discussion is evidence of what a mug you are, ready to believe any old bollox. richard d hall is a fruitcake and unworthy of anyones attention. there were no interesting points at all |
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is hall a crackpot iyo? he was dead right about aliens but seems to have lost the plot since
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there were no interesting points at all
How you would you know, you haven't seen it. |
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hall isnt a crackpot,his docs on the mcscams were factual and very relevant...i'd still like to ask him why he believed the manchester bombing was a fake event though.
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why? It's clearly bollox. Theses people are deluded. Icke still believes that the Royal Family are shapeshifting lizards AFAIK, yet people still steadfastly believe him and read his books, and I imagine the vast majority aren't reading it from a psychiatric interest in the author on how he went from apparently normal to nutjob, but because their life experiences and genetic make up, make them believe such drivel. There's no point arguing with them as they aren't rational, and it's almost impossible to cure. I feel for their families.
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It's mostly men for some reason. Perhaps inside their heads they think the only way I can retain my male supremacy identity, which is threatened in the modern Western World, is to join a brotherhood who believe in some alternate reality?
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So you're unable to give three examples of what he should change his mind about?
No worries CLYDEBANK29, enjoy your day. |
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hall a crackpot iyo? he was dead right about aliens but seems to have lost the plot since
Report•Quote•Block UserGEORGE.B • February 26, 2025 12:47 AM GMT I'd like to think that I'm not. |
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Telling the court " Nobody was injured in the bombing " .. for starters George.?
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I guess it's a bit like a non religious person finding Jesus or Mohammad or Vishnu or Zeus or Thetans. It makes them feel better in themselves, but it's not good for society to believe in nonsense.
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He presented his case about this in his documentary GC. It's not my 'fight' and it's pointless me discussing it with anyone who hasn't seen it.
In his court case, his argument was his actions were justified regarding the claimants under investigative journalism and he wanted to present his documentary to the court as evidence of this, but at a summary hearing, which was requested by the claimants and their legal team, the judge ruled Hall wouldn't be allowed to, which I think in effect meant Hall had lost the case. Hall has claimed that in his defence, he had requested evidence regarding the claimants of their medical records and of the CCTV coverage which would have proved beyond doubt two things, that they were there and their injuries were a result of the bomb blast. Apparently these requests were denied to Hall. |
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Cutter 36 and Warwick Hunt. Is Warwick still with us?
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If there was a documentary about the moon being made of Feta cheese, you don't have to watch it to comment on the fact that the argument is nonsense.
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Absurd statement. Name a comparitive conspiracy that is as absurd as the feta cheese nonsense
A woman can ahve a penis? |
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The Royal Family are shapeshifting lizards is clearly a coin flip. The Manchester Arena bombings being fake is 6/4 against v Feta Cheese. A woman can have a penis is clearly nonsense too, but that doesn't mean the moon landings were fake, the Titanic sunk due to a mutant shark attack, or that Prince Charles is a lizard.
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Ok CLYDEBANK29, how about just one example of what you think David Icke should change his mind about (other than the lizards).
After all, you did ask why he doesn't change his mind about anything, but you seem unable to think of anything he should change his mind about? |
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You have to judge each theory on its merits
Like each official version provided by the "truth-givers" of the media and politicians. Thought that would be a given in a civillised thinking society. |
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George I asked this question first .....
"Are the any examples of conspiracy theorist lunatics like David Icke ever changing their minds or is it a condition without a cure?" You failed to answer it. I'll give you an answer after you answer that. |