£26,222 at 1.01 Maaz

where was the delay ?

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0.0001 secs is a delay tbf hulk.

1.2 secs v 0.0001 secs...

seems a fair set up imv.

been utterly BLATANT that some 'folk' have been playing without an in running delay for years...

plenty of folk have seen it for themselves...

and it won't just be on photo's imv.

25 minutes and jamee hasn't popped on to call me a conspiracy theorist...

what's going on ?

conspiracy theorist

jamee jus text me

Race was suspended late, around 4 seconds after they crossed the line. At time of suspension it was no offers in the blue, and already over £5k traded at 1.01. Most likely the £26k was sat there before suspension IMO.

Most likely the £26k was sat there before suspension IMO.

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if it was sat there before suspension...

why wasn't it sat there as the SUSPENDED banner was up jamee ?

Don't know. Didn't see it go up unfortunately.

i didn't see all of Wolves last night tbh...

but i saw one reasonably close race with about half a furlong to go...

and the winner was 1.01 pink side...

it's pretty hideous if you ask me...

mind you jamee's got to make his 18k per month somehow i suppose...

just another example of the wonderful Betfair level playing field we've been fed for about 15 years now...

laughable tbh.

saw one yesterday where a horse was in 4th/5th,a couple of lengths behind, over a furlong out, trading at 1.4. A few strides later it was 1.01 although not in front,then won comfortably.BLV.

18k a month is £30 a race. is the liquidity there for that much in running ?

probably the same race as i saw TTT...

to call that a level playing field should be a criminal offence imv.

TameTheTiger 18 Feb 25 12:06

18k a month is £30 a race. is the liquidity there for that much in running ?

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if you are at the top of the tree there is TTT...

a) GPS types...

b) raw feed types...

c) 0.0001 sec in running delay types...

a combination of 2 out of the above 3 is lethal.

someone is certainly a few secs ahead of blv

not just 'someone' TTT...

plenty....

raw feed...

GPS...

drones...

miles ahead on ATR.

Is there liquid fur 30 a race

TameTheTiger 18 Feb 25 12:33 
someone is certainly a few secs ahead of blv

its an illusion,obv cant be..the gps is so accurate its stripping the money (not that there is much to strip in the last 2/3f) soon as acceleration/deceleration is detected.

NOBODY is ahead of ATR BLV Mr.Hunt ?

you been on the jungle juice again ?

you are ahead of it for starters.

jamee must be AT LEAST 2 secs ahead of it...

raw feed track players (yes they do exist) must be god only knows how far ahead of it.

if all GPS does is strip away liquidity...

how come jamee makes 18k per month ?

does he have a good eye or something ?

jamee makes 18k Lebanese dollars a month

16 pence

four klarry fick hay shun.

TameTheTiger 18 Feb 25 12:33
someone is certainly a few secs ahead of blv

its an illusion,obv cant be on RTV..the gps is so accurate its stripping the money (not that there is much to strip in the last 2/3f) soon as acceleration/deceleration is detected.

play in 1st half of the race anything is possible..last 2f a tenner is a jackpot.

that's better...

it's good to be accurate.

come to think of it...

i'm sure you posted a few weeks ago that some ATR tracks are 2 secs behind 'live'...

which would make jamee best part of 3 secs ahead of me...

some level playing field that is Betfair...

fkn outrageous imv.

2 secs behind 'drone' i meant...

which would make me 3 secs behind jamee...

certainly feels that way at Southwell/Wolves/Lingfield...

i'd be better off watching the race on the ATR Replay site tbh.

if paudy sees ya making money he can easily see how you're doing it and either make it difficult for you or just get his outsourced trading operation to do it for him.  that's the problem with allowing a bookie to run the place, he doesn't want anyone to win.  he wants it all for himself.  when the place started up, that wasn't the case.

half a furlong out...

nowt in it...

winner trades at 1.01 in the PINK side...

level playing field...

i ain't disagreeing hulk...

you should know that by now.

Approx delays vs live IMO:

GPS via TPD -0.5s
Drone -0.5s
RTV BFL -0.5s
ATR BFL -1.5s

Mr.Hunt quoted a 2 sec ATR delay jamee...

can't remember if it was behind drone or 'live' in all honesty...

no way am i 1.5 secs behind 'live' on all ATR tracks...

forget it.

For me, ATR BFL delay varies between about 1 and 1.5 secs based on when it last re-spooled. Last race @ Wolves, for me BFL was about 1.5 secs behind drone, so likely around 2 secs behind live in total.

why does it very by 0.5 secs iyv jamee ?

gps is 1 million % ahead of drone.

Feb 18, 2025 -- 5:41PM, Rico-Dangleflaps wrote:

gps is 1 million % ahead of drone.

Not for me it isn't, but there are probably faster ways to access data feeds out there.

Feb 18, 2025 -- 5:39PM, HappyHibby wrote:

why does it very by 0.5 secs iyv jamee ?

I'm not sure, but best guess is it depends when the stream last respooled. Every time you get that little 'skip', it seems to return to the lowest possible latency, which increases very slowly over time until it next skips again.

Load up the Wolves feed twice and you'll see what I mean.

in other words it's a piece of unadulterated cr@p which should never have seen the light of day.

Look at the difference between these two instances of the same stream in the last @ Wolves!

you would think the freshly loaded one would always be ahead, not always the case, why?

...yet by the end of the race they had aligned. So perhaps it just depends on when you hit the stream?

Feb 18, 2025 -- 6:08PM, swiftynifty wrote:

you would think the freshly loaded one would always be ahead, not always the case, why?

I think it depends where in the spooling process you happen to hit the stream, and how long ago that particular stream last skipped back to it's lowest point of latency.

so just more craziness to add to the picture speed debacle.

in those last images had the low feed caught up with the fast one or vice versa and God knows how far behind come end of race?

low = slow

i don't recall getting that 'wide' angle on the line of the ATR BLV jamee...

how the heck did you get that ?

Just the usual feed Hibby.

swiftynifty 18 Feb 25 18:24

so just more craziness to add to the picture speed debacle.

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it should never have seen the light of day swifty...

an utter disgrace imv.

i must have a different feed then jamee coz my feed didn't show the nearside rail.

I don't think with Betfair in-running 'Seeing is believing'.

i think i made an error jamee...

it showed the near side rail on the 18:30 so i'm sorry about that...

memory playing tricks with me on that one.

I was at Sandown last week and was betting in running and even I was behind real-time. Work that one out!

Slippy, I can only guess the horses themselves have joined the party.

Feb 18, 2025 -- 6:40PM, SlippyBlue wrote:

I was at Sandown last week and was betting in running and even I was behind real-time. Work that one out!

i've worked it out Slippy...

ye cannae beat the boys who have the 0.0001 sec in running delay accounts...

Ive no idea Jamee but I was getting properly rogered by something that's for certain.

i told you Slippy...

even when you're at the track you're 1 sec at least behind...

or should i say your bets hit the system 1 sec at least behind others...

make no mistake.

Ive no idea Jamee but I was getting properly rogered by something that's for certain.

is that included in the entry fee ??

The exchange is that  fast,even when on course,the exchange is beating the live action.

My mate who can’t wait,o.ooo1 second,shouts,it’s won,it’s won,or it’s lost it’s lost.

I have to run away from him,singing nursery rhythms to drown him out.

Knowing wether he’s won or lost,pales into insignificance compared to enjoying the spectacle.

I only see him on the way to track and on the way home,spend all day avoiding him,has he announces salah  1 shot on target,1/2 to evens with 365.thats tea paid for.

its just all Skam Fare

#fact

HappyHibby18 Feb 25 18:30
i must have a different feed then jamee coz my feed didn't show the nearside rail.

sectioning awaits sadly.

Emerald Downs...

over 20k at 1.01 PINK side IMMEDIATELY after the SUSPEND banner is removed...

0.0001 sec i/r delay man nips in first again...

anyone know who he is ?

Did Wise Stars go 1.01?

no idea tbh...

i just saw 1.01 for 20k on the pink side appear for the winner in a blink of an eye as soon as they re-opened for the photo...

amazing when you think we ALL are supposedly subjected to a 1.2 sec in running delay.

can you imagine someone at the GC hauling one of the minnions in and telling them to wander along to paudys and check if his outsourced trading operation are operating without a 1.2 sec in running delay.

he'd be like ..... what the fk are you talking about

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Outsourced Trading Operation...

sounds like something you'd hear coming from the Kremlin tbh hulk.

where is the OTO based again hulk ?

is it Norway or Finland or something ?

OTO pops in with 20k at 1.01 on Shallow now...

are they ever not in first ?

amazing.

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all on the Sportsbook obviously.  wouldn't dream of doing anything on the Exchange

Feb 19, 2025 -- 6:37PM, HappyHibby wrote:

Emerald Downs...over 20k at 1.01 PINK side IMMEDIATELY after the SUSPEND banner is removed...0.0001 sec i/r delay man nips in first again...anyone know who he is ?

Not on my screen Hibby, I happened to be screen recording it. Market reopened at 18:33:54 (my PC time), and it went 1.01 in the pink about a second later at 18:33:55.

In-Play traders

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why does the sportsbook require such a vast trading operation when nobody can get more than 3 pence on a 9/2 shot ??

i didn't think it would be on your screen tbh jamee.

Ensure customer queries are dealt with promptly and accurately

wtf ^^

Ability to work flexible hours (evenings and weekends) and deliver results under pressure

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especially when photo finishes on horse racing occur.

Key Responsibilities:
Schedule intelligently to maximise resources and revenue
Work closely with Trading Heads to support a competitive sportsbook product
Ensure best practice is followed across the department
Ensure customer queries are dealt with promptly and accurately
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fk up a photo and you are out on your ear.

Performance Management of In-Play Traders,

yeah, remember we said don't press the £22k at 1.01 button when there's a chance of a stewards.

hand your pass into reception on your way out.

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and when a horse is withdrawn at the last minute make sure and press the 'withdrawn' button...

and not the 22k @ 1.01 button on the wrong bl00dy horse...

there's a good lad...

and btw it's coffee with 2 sugars and goats milk.

since wen have fotos been opened in usa?

does jamee ever miss a race?

the bloke never sleeps Mr.Hunt...

even Donald J Trump has 4 hours ffs.

Rico, the horse was called Emerald Downs ysdfc

Feb 19, 2025 -- 10:06PM, swiftynifty wrote:

Rico, the horse was called Emerald Downs ysdfc

since wen have fotos been opened in usa?

 

hulk...

Australian Open Tennis...

'someone' looking to back Sinner at 900 for £621...

any idea what/who would tie up £621 for best part of a year hanging around for a c0ck up ?

yes Sinner is banned atm and maybe it's connected to that but c'mon...

surely that's an in-house one ?

If others have the edge , just don't play.

same person who wants £1000 on Andrew Tate next UK prime minister.

crazee Mr Fawlty..

it's as crazy as a Hama Sandwich with tomato ketchup tbh.

jamee...

you got a minute for an IT query please ?

Hmmmm, another IT rabbit hole?

well not sure...

but here goes...

you see when i start the PC fresh (powered off/on)...

when i start a browser (without doing anything else) and i load up Task Manager...

in the Apps bit of Task Manager...

i see Chrome ok...

but underneath Chrome there are about 10 other Chrome thingys which are using resources...

how the heck is that happening ?

Knock them on the head muppet, you put them there in the first place!!! HTH

It'll be a breakdown of the processes required to run Chrome. Sounds normal, mine has 13 sub-processes running under Chrome. As long as your CPU and memory are not ever full/nearly full then you're good.

oh cheers for that jamee...

just seemed a bit odd coz i just thought there would be ONE Chrome process tbh...

Memory at 44%.

https://support.google.com/chrome/thread/2064254/multiple-google-chrome-processes-on-task-manager-why?hl=en
.

Google Chrome runs multiple processes for each open tab, extension, and plugin to improve stability and security. This multi-process architecture is designed to protect the browser from bugs and glitches.
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ta jamee.

jamee your IT consultant now hibs?  well fo and dont bother me no more in messenger when ya stuck.

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