Tom Malone thrown under a bus

He's been buying expensive flops for a few years now, done ok out of it no doubt

% men come and go,the daughter will do the same job,nice walker,nice backend with scope and a good eye…..

When bloodstock agent Tom Malone contacted the Brooms to see if they were interested, he warned them Native River was not their usual type. "He's nearby and we only went to have a look out of courtesy," admits Garth. "But as soon as we saw the horse, he was so athletic, sort of feline . . . we looked at each other and said we'd go home and think about it. But we didn't leave it too long because we knew we both wanted him. We called back within an hour and took a punt."

... And won the Gold Cup ...

Maybe the problem isn't the with horses Malone finds, but more with the trainer they end up with these days.

formoftheace...is that a description of megan ? if so , fair enough .

Lol…..

No that’s the lingo of most % men…..

Getting the daughter to buy stock for better results..... Jesus h......theyll get worse

Megan is a good judge so what is the problem? Why pay Mason 10% every time. And surely the more pairs of eyes and ears you have the better. Malone does not work for Paul Nicholls.

Malone. Pesky text predictor.

It reminds me of the old joke about the  Lord and his wife ,the oldest son was going to inherit the estate and the second son was was doing well in the city. The problem was Henry was not bright enough for the church so he took the officers entrance exam for the infantry. When the letter saying he had failed arrived she shrieked the "The shame Henry will have to become a bloodstock agent" 

Bidding-up a matter of course in most bloodstock sales to the benefit of agents/trainers at the expense of owners. Madness to get involved with the likes of M*lone etc.

bloodstock agents are just total guesser like everyone else...

nice pedigree...

won a point to point by 30 lengths...

walks well...

nice shoulder...

eh i'd bid 350k and if you don't get it go up to 400k...

and if it turns out to be a 0-95 handicap hurdler don't mention that i advised you...

oh and btw i'll take a big chunk of a commission fee no matter what happens...

nice doing business with you...

have a nice day.

He has got a nice page.

aye that's one for the pundits who like to think they are all over pedigree's second again...

makes them sound like they know what they are talking about...

the reality is that they just read it in the RP spotlight or preview.

Some of the prices they pay for those pointers defy belief.

It always bemuses me that folk pay 200,000+ and the like for pointers. Over jumps, there's only a small likelihood that you'll ever recoup those types of outlays. Suppose it's just a fun plaything for those who have more money than they know what to do with.

Paul Nicholls has very little genuine quality nowadays. He was written off a few years back and regrouped. I've no doubt that he will again - he always has. He often claims not to worry about trainer titles nowadays, but he's only one behind Pipe now, I think, so I wouldn't take him at his word - I'm sure he be keen to at least achieve parity with his old rival.

As for Megan, she's had plenty of experience in racing, so don't see why she wouldn't do a decent job. I've heard she's a good egg and she does come across well. Good luck to her.

Would anyone have a database or written an article for pointers who made 200k plus from around 2017-2022 and what they subsequently achieved. Trevelyn's Corn who Malone paid £400K for in 2017 is the type of purchase that makes you wonder how these agents last so long.

On the flat a lot of the best horses are homebred and never sold unless to Stud but over jumps, most are sold at least once. There must be some correlation between price and ability and the most successful trainers keep getting sent the most expensive ones and some of them hit the jackpot. I would love to know who buys the Brocade Racing horses as they rarely get a completely useless one and each season they have success. 16 wins from 51 runs and 10 winners from 14 horses to run this season. Quite impressive.
As it happens I have now done a quick check on the RP site and Sober Glory was by far the most expensive at 110k and he was signed for by Tom Malone! Other young ones include Kripticjim EU30k, Siam Park EU12k, Alexei and Jurancon both private sales, American Land EU15k. So very affordable prices but many different buyers. Either the owners themselves are very good judges or they are very lucky. The real star, Native River cost EU6k in Ireland and won £1 million.!!
I once asked Colin Tizzard when he was still training if they were a syndicate who sold shares. Typically mischievous reply from Colin. Oh no they own them all and they are only local farmers. He then turned back and said it did help when they sold a big chunk of land for housing.

something needs to change if PITROCRY can win tomorrow it will be Nichols 1st grade 1 for a yr

The spelling for a start

They need to look at or follow what WP Mullins does , he seems pretty capable of finding good horses .

And quite a lot of bad ones but yes, he does seem to find most of the best ones.

He must have run out of brown envelopes.

Nicholls could take any horses of his choice from the Mullins barn but most likely they would be worse as a result. That's the principle issue here. We had that direct comparison a few years back when Sullivan Bloodstock moved their horses from Mullins to Nicholls - didn't reflect well on Nicholls then and the gap between the two stables has probably widened since.

Are you seriously saying that any Mullins owner would move to Nicholls or sell to his owners if invited to? With the current disparity of prize money, training fees and regulation they would be mad to do so. Little to do with relative ability. No other British trainer has had more success than Nicholls and those British trainers who are trying to move him from top spot are faring no better against the Irish challenge. Henderson may win more at Cheltenham this season but it is with the same owners as Mullins has apart from Michael Buckley.

Who buys Derham's horses ?

Sageform: I don't know whether you noticed my post above, with the quote about how Tom Malone found Native River, but the 2016 article from which it comes tells you something about the Brooms, ex of Cades Farm, and the thinking behind their horses.

https://www.racingpost.com/news/features/series/2016-interview-with-the-owners-of-cheltenham-gold-cup-hero-native-river-atFYz1y7KPbB/

after the caldwell potters dispersal sale ,surely everyone's entitled to have a go if they so wish