Grand National weights.

Full Grand National Weights:

    I Am Maximus (FR) 9 11-12 / Mr John P. McManus / W. P. Mullins 167
    Royale Pagaille (FR) 11 11-9 / Mrs S. Ricci / Venetia Williams 164
    Envoi Allen (FR) 11 11-8 / Cheveley Park Stud / Henry de Bromhead 163
    Grangeclare West (IRE) 9 11-8 / Cheveley Park Stud / W. P. Mullins 163
    L’homme Presse (FR) 10 11-8 / Dfa Racing (Pink, Edwards & Sharman) / Venetia Williams 163
    Nick Rockett (IRE) 8 11-8 / Stewart & Sadie Andrew / W. P. Mullins 163
    Hewick (IRE) 10 11-7 / Mr T. J. McDonald / Tara Lee Cogan 162
    Gentlemansgame (GB) 9 11-5 / Robcour / M. F. Morris 160
    Inothewayurthinkin (IRE) 7 11-5 / Mr John P. McManus / Gavin Cromwell 160
    Monty’s Star (IRE) 8 11-5 / Mr Barry Maloney / Henry de Bromhead 160
    The Real Whacker (IRE) 9 11-4 / Neville, Mann, Duffus, Dennis-Price / Patrick Neville 159
    Minella Indo (IRE) 12 11-3 / Mr Barry Maloney / Henry de Bromhead 158
    Appreciate It (IRE) 11 11-2 / Miss M. A. Masterson / W. P. Mullins 157
    Capodanno (FR) 9 11-2 / Mr John P. McManus / W. P. Mullins 157
    Conflated (IRE) 11 11-2 / Gigginstown House Stud / Gordon Elliott 157
    Delta Work (FR) 12 11-2 / Gigginstown House Stud / Gordon Elliott 157
    Minella Cocooner (IRE) 9 11-2 / Mr David Bobbett / W. P. Mullins 157
    Stumptown (IRE) 8 11-2 / Furze Bush Syndicate / Gavin Cromwell 157
    Beauport (IRE) 9 11-1 / Bryan & Philippa Burrough / Nigel Twiston-Davies 156
    Hitman (FR) 9 11-1 / Mason, Hogarth, Ferguson & Done / Paul Nicholls 156
    Bravemansgame (FR) 10 11-0 / Bryan Drew / Paul Nicholls 155
    Chantry House (IRE) 11 10-13 / Mr John P. McManus / Nicky Henderson 154
    Galvin (IRE) 11 10-13 / Mr R. A. Bartlett / Gordon Elliott 154
    Perceval Legallois (FR) 8 10-12 / Mr John P. McManus / Gavin Cromwell 153
    Threeunderthrufive (IRE) 10 10-12 / McNeill Family / Paul Nicholls 153
    Fakir d’Oudairies (FR) 10 10-11 / Mr John P. McManus / Joseph Patrick O’Brien 152
    Iroko (FR) 7 10-11 / Mr John P. McManus / Oliver Greenall & Josh Guerriero 152
    Kandoo Kid (FR) 9 10-11 / Mr Michael Geoghegan / Paul Nicholls 152
    Trelawne (GB) 9 10-11 / The Real Partnership / Kim Bailey & Mat Nicholls 152
    Idas Boy (IRE) 11 10-10 / Dozen Dreamers / Richard Phillips 151
    Intense Raffles (FR) 7 10-10 / Mr Simon Munir/Mr Isaac Souede / T. Gibney 151
    Limerick Lace (IRE) 8 10-10 / Mr John P. McManus / Gavin Cromwell 151
    Senior Chief (GB) 8 10-10 / Lucky In Life Syndicate / Henry de Bromhead 151
    Broadway Boy (IRE) 7 10-9 / Mr D. M. Proos / Nigel Twiston-Davies 150
    Coko Beach (FR) 10 10-9 / Gigginstown House Stud / Gordon Elliott 150
    Farouk d’Alene (FR) 10 10-9 / Mr Justin Carthy / Gary Brown 150
    Fil Dor (FR) 7 10-9 / Robcour / Gordon Elliott 150
    French Dynamite (FR) 10 10-9 / Robcour / M. F. Morris 150
    Mr Incredible (IRE) 9 10-9 / Mr J. Manclark / Sandy Thomson 150
    Stay Away Fay (IRE) 8 10-9 / Bell, Lyons, Hill / Paul Nicholls 150
    Zanahiyr (IRE) 8 10-9 / Bective Stud / Gordon Elliott 150
    Pinkerton (IRE) 9 10-8 / Mr P. L. Polly / Noel Meade 149
    Meetingofthewaters (IRE) 8 10-7 / Mr John P. McManus / W. P. Mullins 148
    Minella Drama (IRE) 10 10-7 / Green Day Racing / Donald McCain 148
    Velvet Elvis (IRE) 9 10-7 / Mr D. Kierans / Gavin Cromwell 148
    Celebre d’Allen (FR) 13 10-6 / Mr Allan Stennett / Philip Hobbs & Johnson White 147
    Fontaine Collonges (FR) 10 10-6 / Mr P. Davies / Venetia Williams 147
    Horantzau d’Airy (FR) 8 10-6 / Mrs S. Ricci / W. P. Mullins 147
    Hyland (FR) 8 10-6 / The Ten From Seven / Nicky Henderson 147
    Monbeg Genius (IRE) 9 10-6 / Martin Tedham & Wasdell Properties Ltd. / Jonjo & A.J. O’Neill 147
    Vanillier (FR) 10 10-6 / Mrs H. M. Keaveney / Gavin Cromwell 147
    Minella Crooner (IRE) 9 10-5 / KTDA Racing/Nick Courtney/Cillian Moran / Gordon Elliott 146
    Quick Wave (FR) 12 10-5 / Ms Sharon Kinsella / Venetia Williams 146
    Three Card Brag (IRE) 8 10-5 / Patrick & Scott Bryceland, McNeill Family / Gordon Elliott 146
    Twig (GB) 10 10-5 / Mrs G. Morgan / Ben Pauling 146
    Duffle Coat (IRE) 8 10-4 / Mr Ray Stokes / Gordon Elliott 145
    Roi Mage (FR) 13 10-4 / Pryde/Van Der Hoeven/McGladery/Beaumont / Patrick Griffin 145
    Shakem Up’arry (IRE) 11 10-4 / Mr Harry Redknapp / Ben Pauling 145
    Fantastic Lady (FR) 10 10-3 / Mr E. R. Hanbury / Nicky Henderson 144
    Favori de Champdou (FR) 10 10-3 / Gigginstown House Stud / Gordon Elliott 144
    Yeah Man (IRE) 8 10-3 / John J. Brennan/Martin Hannan / Gavin Cromwell 144
    Chemical Energy (IRE) 9 10-2 / Bective Stud Gordon Elliott / 143
    Macdermott (FR) 7 10-2 / Gallagher Bloodstock Limited / W. P. Mullins 143
    Mister Coffey (FR) 10 10-2 / Lady Bamford & Alice Bamford / Nicky Henderson 143
    Mr Vango (IRE) 9 10-2 / Cracker and Smodge Partnership / Sara Bradstock 143
    Bronn (IRE) 8 10-1 / Mr Simon Munir/Mr Isaac Souede / T. Gibney 142
    Desertmore House (IRE) 10 10-1 / O. B. P. Carroll/Anthony Vaughan / Martin Brassil 142
    Malina Girl (IRE) 8 10-1 / Mrs J. M. Russell / Gavin Cromwell 142
    Richmond Lake (IRE) 9 10-1 / Hemmings Racing / Donald McCain 142
    La Renommee (FR) 7 10-0 / Upton House Stud / Dr Richard Newland & Jamie Insole 141
    King Turgeon (FR) 7 9-13 / Somerset Racing / David Pipe 140
    Stuzzikini (IRE) 7 9-13 / VCS Versatile Coating Specialist/F Foran / Gordon Elliott 140
    Cruz Control (FR) 8 9-12 / Mr F Green and Mr J Chinn / Tom Lacey 139
    Surrey Quest (IRE) 8 9-12 / Surrey Racing (SQ) / Toby Lawes 139
    Apple Away (IRE) 8 9-11 / Old Gold Racing 14 / Lucinda Russell 138
    Busselton (FR) 8 9-11 / Friendship Partnership / Joseph Patrick O’Brien 138
    Gevrey (FR) 9 9-11 / Denis Gallagher Racing / Gordon Elliott 138
    Spanish Harlem (FR) 7 9-11 / Dr S. P. Fitzgerald / W. P. Mullins 138
    The Goffer (IRE) 8 9-10 / Mr Allan Snow / Gordon Elliott 137
    Famous Bridge (IRE) 9 9-9 / Hemmings Racing / Nicky Richards 136
    Copperhead (GB) 11 9-7 / Mrs G. C. Pritchard / Joe Tizzard 134
    Escaria Ten (FR) 11 9-7 / J B Property Investments (Midlands) Ltd / Martin Keighley 134
    Where It All Began (IRE) 9 9-7 / McNeill Family/Patrick & Scott Bryceland / Gordon Elliott 134
    Git Maker (FR) 9 9-6 / Sheep As A Lamb Syndicate / Jamie Snowden 133
    Gericault Roque (FR) 9 9-4 / Prof. Caroline Tisdall and Bryan Drew / David Pipe 131
    Pats Fancy (IRE) 10 9-3 / Hydes, McDermott, Spencer, Frobisher & Lee / Rebecca Curtis 130
    Placenet (FR) 8 9-3 / Prof C Tisdall & G Thompson / D. Cottin 130

I like a few quid ew following value + and he,s put TWIG up at 100,s 6 places with slybet.for an early dart at this yrs national

Dreadful meaningless four and a half miles……ffs

First horse that caught my eye at the weights Zanahiyr given 10-9, not far behind top class over hurdles.

av been betting one for a few weeks after i scene its last run where it wasnt wanted.

Iknowthewayourthinkin.

was it montys steve?

above your comment elsie.

ok, ta

I hope we are all thinkin right.....

Vanillier. Has to be.

What Has Seagull Tipped ? 8-1 now Thinking

comes up Good going be 20 in touch Jumping 3 out , cavalry charge over the last 2 fences

pricewise 1pt 10/1,nanny.

Back (Bet For)
Odds
Stake
Profit
Inothewayurthinkin
12
£8.00
£88.00
Inothewayurthinkin
13
£9.00
£108.00
Inothewayurthinkin
14
£5.00
£65.00
Inothewayurthinkin
14.5
£74.33
£1,003.46
Inothewayurthinkin
15
£17.00
£238.00
Inothewayurthinkin
16
£7.00
£105.00
Inothewayurthinkin
19.5
£2.00
£37.00

the old nanny ;-) -- Sir Tom has indeed tipstered Inothewayurthinkin and at a price, L'Homme Presse.

But I'd be mildly surprised if any of them will have gone untipped by the day, including all the non-runners.

cant recall the last time i bet ante post in the national..its deffo 5-6lbs well in..blatant non jigger lto.

G luck steve  , looks a Big runner , I gave Yeah man a glance ,He is entered in National trial at Haydock on saturday with a few others ,yeah man only 10.3  50-1  for national Ew type

But if he runs well that will be gone , Then he could Bomb and be pulled out

saying that he is 61 on the List and only 34 Runners be lucky to get in

'if' Iknowthewayourthinkin runs..it wont be near 10/1.

One used to be able to draw a line through ninety percent of the runners. Now, it's a complete lottery. Pardon the pun.

.... I don't even watch it now let alone bet on it but I might follow Rico and have a pony each way on his selection.

For me it is probably Meetingofthewaters again as in last year (1 of 3). I think I am Maximus has to be included too - he won it fairly easily last time; 3rd choice is between Iroko and Inothewayurthinkin. The present Grand National is more of a handicap race over lesser testing fences these days.

Couldnt agree more with Rico , absolutely gutted lto when an insignificant error costs umpteen lengths to a horse that was travelling like a dream . Still doesnt mean I will back it as have Meetingofthewaters @ mid 40s and one hopes 3U35 haha .

imo it was taken wide intentionally 2 out to lose ground..after that it was only nudged into it to nick 4th and £10,000 for 4th..way better than its mark imo..plotted to win a race JP targets.

themightymac • February 12, 2025 12:40 AM GMT
Now, it's a complete lottery.

anything but imo

top 3 in betting been welded to the floor every run they've had this ssn

The present Grand National is more of a handicap race over lesser testing fences these days.

plays like a hcap hurdle these days

Iknowthewayourthinkin without a doubt is very well h/capped.

imo

Inothewayurthinkin is good enough to be placed in a Gold Cup, and should be supplemented for that race. That doesn't mean he will win a Grand National. He isn't a quick jumper, and he likely will end up too far back. Clearly the trainer doesn't see the National as a good fit, so I can only presume (as they say nothing) that the owner has had a little tickle.

The trainer is lying through his teeth, blatantly not off this season, been backed no doubt by his owner and everyone else who has been watching for the National. Pointless going for the GC when it will be 2nd at best. Corbetts Cross may be able to do that for Mcmanus anyway, will know better re that one after the weekend.

I don't see any point in the trainer lying. Where I am struggling is his description of the horse's next run as a 'head scratcher', and why he hasn't just come out and said that the horse should be supplemented for the Gold Cup. He has other runners which he no doubt thinks are better suited to the National. If it isn't a National horse then I would be quite pleased with a second in a Gold Cup. He is better than Corbetts Cross who hasn't even been in the Gold Cup trials. Inothewayurthinkin has improved with each run, despite not getting the softer ground he would have preferred.

I wouldn't listen to trainers, make your own mind up ! put it this way when was the last time a trainer said  before a race this will win and it did ,apologies  if I am wrong and my memory isn't what it was but I cant recall any !

Inothewayurthinkin has improved with each run...
i concur,still has a lot in hand of its current mark,is only a young horse and has improvement to come,will never get a better chance to win a national with 11st 5lb...but of course lots of luck needed.

I have been playing the Grand National AntePost market for longer than I care to think.  Over time, I have found that you don't lose by laying JP's horses AP and covering the bets on the day and also that his trainers don't make the decisions.

'Rydal', indeed. Unless JP horses do not show up obviously; JP and his advisors will tell his trainers the principal target/s of his charges. Even Mr Mullins' cannot afford or want another dispute similar to Gigginstown.

Back (Bet For)
Odds Stake Profit
Inothewayurthinkin
12.17
£216.00
£2,413.44
Total stake:
£216.00

Back (Bet For)
Odds Stake Profit
Inothewayurthinkin
11.52
£275.00
£2,892.44
Total stake:
£275.00

JP can fck hoff with supplementing it for the gold cup

Rico, you could say " Ive Madeupmymind."

hope im supping bucks fizz.

In an intriguing move Inothewayurthinkin is set to be parachuted into contention for next week's Gold Cup, prompting bookmakers to make him as short as 7-1 to upset hot favourite Galopin Des Champs at Cheltenham next Friday.

It will cost connections £25,000 to add the JP McManus-owned seven-year-old, trained by Gavin Cromwell, to the Boodles-sponsored showpiece at Saturday's supplementary stage.

After bolting up by eight lengths off top weight in last season's Kim Muir, Inothewayurthinkin followed up in Grade 1 company at Aintree. He returned this season with a seventh in the John Durkan and finished fifth in the Savills Chase but was not entered for the Gold Cup the following month.

Inothewayurthinkin:
Inothewayurthinkin: won last season's Mildmay Novices' Chase at Aintree
Credit: Michael Steele
On his latest start he finished a staying-on fourth to Galopin Des Champs in the Irish Gold Cup, beaten 15 lengths, and connections now appear ready to target the ultimate prize provided ground conditions are suitable.

“I’d say he’ll be supplemented for the Gold Cup as long as there’s soft in the ground,” owner JP McManus’s racing manager Frank Berry told PA.

“There’s only one Gold Cup and he’s well at the minute, but it would be important there’s soft in the description for him to run. The supplementary stage is on Saturday and I’d say that’s the plan. Gavin is happy with him, but there would need to be soft in the ground for him to run, so we’ll see how that goes."

not gud news for rico but surely 33's to be soft...g/s atm and no rain fc for a week.

2/5 if runs in national.

lay off yer bet .No guarantee to run now.

good shout rico

national course will be overwatered as well suit this horse defo

4-1 on here wouldnt mind that NRNB

Mr Chambelin is still batting for the bookies. He said he'd be short for this race; £745 at 5.2 still available though.

Can only be evens it runs ? 

Mind you if doesnt run this year doubt it ever will

Cromwell didnt seem to keen on it.

do we remember Synchronised ??

Funny thing about that is after winning the GC it started 10/1 for the National (off 161)

Changing times indeed

Time for a little trading Rico?

with 11st 5lb its obv chucked in in the national..will never get a better chance.

coin flip to run judged by jp interview

if it recovers well enough the race is there for the taking obv with luck in running.

Not sure id risk him when theres a possible 2 more gold cups in him. JP has an army for the national and Cromwell has 2 other fancied runners from cross country.

if it had placed i think they'd run so long as it was ok, but with the win your first thought is next yrs gold cup and then they're going to sit and ponder whether to go to the well twice with what looks a decent young stayer, jp might say let it go ?

I cannot see the winner running here. I think he's more of a chance of running at Punchestown. He'll be prepped for next year's gold Cup again; JP will have two golden bullets ie Inowotyurthinkin and Fact To File.

they're probably thinking could win more than 1 gold cup wouldn't be surprise if that's it done for the ssn

Syncronised will heavily on their minds

*weigh heavily

Possibly your right isleham
The GN IS 3 weeks today now, rather than 4 weeks when Synchronised ran….Its a tough decision, but if he was mine I’d roll the dice.

Think your stake is around £600 Rico, nothing to you, you'll get that back in a day or two. price less than half what you've got now, take a chance and let it ride, or you could trade out half your stake and still have a nice bet.
  As you say, won't get a better chance at the weights.