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By:
mitolo
When: 11 Feb 25 19:05
155k and was looking for more
By:
CagliariG
When: 11 Feb 25 19:06
He did when Felon pulled him cloone, he was intent on winning!!
By:
cloone river
When: 11 Feb 25 19:22
How many races did Ballinger ridge win?
By:
CagliariG
When: 11 Feb 25 19:25
1 but what has that to do with being pulled in another he would have won easily?
By:
formoftheace
When: 11 Feb 25 19:26
Balding lost his marbles when he continued to use the rodent imv….
By:
swiftynifty
When: 11 Feb 25 19:37
I can give you a list of Chris Catlin rides on the AW that drifted like a barge and were slowly away(98% of the time, he perfected it). I alerted the BHB and not much later he 'retired.'
By:
cloone river
When: 11 Feb 25 19:40
Balding knew what Ballinger ridge was like.
By:
formoftheace
When: 11 Feb 25 19:41
Shortage of envelopes in those days tbf…
By:
formoftheace
When: 11 Feb 25 19:42
cloone river 11 Feb 25 19:40 
Balding knew what Ballinger ridge was like.

He knew it should have won….
By:
CagliariG
When: 11 Feb 25 19:43
Give us the list Swifty?
By:
monarch
When: 11 Feb 25 19:45
Take your pick from the many tender rides Seamie Heffernan gave to Ballydoyle 2nd strings down through the years.
By:
swiftynifty
When: 11 Feb 25 19:46
I couldn't be bothered Cag. Just search Catlin rides on the Racing Post at Southwell, 98% missed the break, incredibly unlucky jockey with the kickback like it was.

I was meaning the Fibresand kickback.
By:
formoftheace
When: 11 Feb 25 19:47
An endless list of rodents never to grace the turf again…..good riddance…
By:
CagliariG
When: 11 Feb 25 19:50
What about the ones he won on Monarch, when he obviously should not have?

Same old conspiracy sh!t with no evidence eh Swifty?

Catlin one of the most consistent during his main career and only his last 2 years saw a decline from the norm, pulled 6 from 7 rides in his last year Swifty?
By:
swiftynifty
When: 11 Feb 25 19:52
Not into conspiracies, just deal with the facts, no doubt Catlin got word he'd been rumbled and took the workrider job at Godolphin.

He was consistent alright.
By:
CagliariG
When: 11 Feb 25 19:59
Give us the evidence then Swifty? In print or/and your part in his decision?

I can certainly reciprocate, done so here previously in terms of Oscar Urbina ( work rider with Godolphin) and Greg Chung for real events?
By:
swiftynifty
When: 11 Feb 25 20:03
Betfair became a licence to print money for the journeymen jocks, a handful got caught, plenty didn't.
By:
mitolo
When: 11 Feb 25 20:03
swiftynumpty; i can give you a list of chris catlin rides that drifted like a barge

toby; give us it

sn; couldnt be bothered. 98% missed the break


a remarkable ratio that you might suppose was backed up by stats?


and heres another brainbox;

formoftheace Joined: 17 Apr 12
Replies: 1737211 Feb 25 19:42 
cloone river 11 Feb 25 19:40
Balding knew what Ballinger ridge was like.

He knew it should have won…


what a genius race-reader baldy must be to have spotted that
By:
swiftynifty
When: 11 Feb 25 20:05
mitolo, I had correspondence with the BHB, but thanks for your input, what number bottle are you on currently?
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 11 Feb 25 20:19
swifty getting a hard time, but not a jockey I have fond memories of either, and a quick delve into the archives to see how popular CC was back in the day, and fair to say he had quite a 'fan club' on here.

I only went back to 2010 and looked at a few pages.

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23634678/mr-chris-catlin-7lb-claimer?post_id=432065254#432065254

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/24018465/eseej-1920-southwell---a-health-warning?post_id=432968093#432968093

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/25532081/chris-catlin-on-veeb?post_id=460162757#460162757

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/25532305/seriously-is-chris-catlin-carrying-an-injury?post_id=534493755#534493755

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/25886385/chris-catlin-u-are-such-a-laughable-joke-cant-keep-a-horse-straight?post_id=466925693#466925693

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/25860909/new-stopwatch?post_id=466424169#466424169

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/25838149/chris-catlin-2yos?post_id=465991337#465991337

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/26291769/chris-catlinpossibly-the-worst-of-the-lot-but-he-avoids?post_id=474832933#474832933

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/26221765/chris-catlin-and-mount-juliet?post_id=473438241#473438241

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/26406981/chris-catlin?post_id=485422733#485422733
By:
mitolo
When: 11 Feb 25 20:19
is that where the 98% came from? or did you make it up? losing an argument with toby is a rum do and possibly unprecedented

irrelevant. why do you ask? last time you got the ump you accused me of being a drug addict. bit sensitive aint we?


as you are desperate to know; 1. late start due to late night
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 11 Feb 25 20:29
Maybe they were all wrong?

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/26436457/chris-catlin---useless?post_id=477697901#477697901

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/26665465/chris-catlinwhat-was-that?post_id=482253865#482253865

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/27478301/chris-catlin-give-up?post_id=493039941#493039941

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/27228637/chris-catlin-thought-that-was-1m-5f-i-think?post_id=488924993#488924993

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28056793/chris-catlin?post_id=503322481#503322481

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/27967149/chris-catlin?post_id=501565285#501565285

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28905221/investigate-chris-catlin-bha?post_id=516182489#516182489
By:
CagliariG
When: 11 Feb 25 20:35
Same sources as swifty pulling out a story for the thread?

Provide evidence if you can, the conspiracy sh!t is not only boring but we could all create one if we were bored?
By:
mitolo
When: 11 Feb 25 20:40
maybe they are ll right. or wrong. irrelevant. i dont look at any of em so dont know

i suspect you could do similar for a good number of jokeys. and its not evidence of anything other than forum-dwellers are malcontents in the main, always on the lookout out for a sinister motive
By:
swiftynifty
When: 11 Feb 25 20:59
The facts are the BHB signed a MoU with Betfair, the so-called paper trails would help root out the cheats, then reality struck, they'd opened a can of worms and none of it was legally enforceable.
By:
mitolo
When: 11 Feb 25 21:02
98% true
By:
swiftynifty
When: 11 Feb 25 21:05
only the jockeys know the truth, unless they have their private phonecalls hacked when riding in India, the forum will never know.
By:
mitolo
When: 11 Feb 25 21:13
what the forum knows aint worth knowing

you should give it up. its so obviously bent
By:
swiftynifty
When: 11 Feb 25 21:18
I know plenty of it's bent. The whole UK handicap system ensures it. Betfair only cemented it.

Give up? No thanks, I make an OK living, but thanks for your advice.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 11 Feb 25 21:24
Out of interest, anyone know who gave Eddie Ahern the nickname Betfair Eddie?
By:
swiftynifty
When: 11 Feb 25 22:29
I don't know GEORGE.B

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-75NOtXc9xk

this always a funny watch, I got a life ban from the forum for calling out Ferdy Murphy (prior to this expose)
By:
swiftynifty
When: 11 Feb 25 22:31
Osborne, all there on camera, years later , just carry on regardless!
By:
swiftynifty
When: 11 Feb 25 22:51
at 21:17 in,  I nearly had a double take and thought I saw hulk's 108!
By:
eric_morris
When: 11 Feb 25 23:50
Top Cees
By:
eric_morris
When: 11 Feb 25 23:50
So chuffed when it didn’t get up in it’s next run when wanted
By:
iswearitsoath
When: 12 Feb 25 08:36
Tony Dobbin's farewell race (on Ballyvoge) was painful to watch, though slightly funny in being so ovious.
By:
Brian
When: 12 Feb 25 09:00
Somebody already mentioned Ice Saint which was blatant but I don't think anyone has mentioned Browns Gazette in the 1985 Champion Hurdle that was truly shocking.
By:
formoftheace
When: 12 Feb 25 09:01
The dregs of nature robbed the fodder without mercy….they knew the results before the horse/horses left the training yard.

Imagine the fodder standing round the parade ring and the dregs of nature looking down knowing they didn’t stand a chance in hell….
By:
jimnast
When: 12 Feb 25 09:22
There was a race at lingfield in the early to mid nineties where bola advised its members not to pay out I can’t remember the name of the horse,
By:
formoftheace
When: 12 Feb 25 09:26
There are so many jimnast it would cook the napper trying to remember…..
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