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DIFERENT GRAVY 12
10 Feb 25 11:11
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A decent bloke imo


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Report DIFERENT GRAVY 12 • February 10, 2025 11:14 AM GMT
I told Mrs Gravy she could get it for my birthday. When she saw the link she said "Haven't you got enough books about fat blokes doing their bollox?"
Report ronnie rails • February 10, 2025 11:30 AM GMT
One of the nicest guys I have had the pleasure  to meet.
Ronnie.
Report ronnie rails • February 10, 2025 11:34 AM GMT
If you ever meet him ask him about  the Hills rep and the 26000 pound coins.
Ronnie.
Report seaside • February 11, 2025 12:44 PM GMT
Top bloke Garry
Report freddiewilliams • September 26, 2026 3:29 PM BST
Plus 2 grand  before last Frankie race....minus 1.2 mil
Report freddiewilliams • September 26, 2026 3:33 PM BST
Is that in the book
Report stu • September 26, 2026 3:37 PM BST
"Haven't you got enough books about fat blokes doing their bollox?"

Laugh

To be fair she has a point about gambling bio type books, they do all seem like that!
Report stu • September 26, 2026 3:37 PM BST
Been reading the Harry Findlay one (see above). Not bad, but reads a bit like I'd imagine he bets - all over the flamin place!
Report uptheirons • September 26, 2026 3:41 PM BST
Title should have been,"Living to Gamble" for HF
Report stu • September 26, 2026 3:42 PM BST
You run into him irons anytime?
Report uptheirons • September 26, 2026 3:48 PM BST
Plenty of times but not for some years,stu
Report ericster • September 26, 2026 4:17 PM BST
Might just look out for that one.
Report stu • September 26, 2026 4:34 PM BST
How did you find him irons, he seems an interesting chap.
Report uptheirons • September 26, 2026 4:41 PM BST
Very friendly and always trying to help others but regularly had his price taken here without making the culprits pay,stu.
The price filchers would have abandoned ship if he had a few stopped
Report HoratioNelson • September 26, 2026 4:43 PM BST
A genuine fella with a sense of humour....I asked for 7/2 a 5/2 poke at Brighton one day. He said "F*** Off......you can have 3's".... I bought him some prawns and can of coke after it won Wink
Report stu • September 26, 2026 4:46 PM BST
Yep, at least the book feels pretty true to that portrayal irons, cheers.
Report 1st time poster • September 26, 2026 5:32 PM BST
HAANS CHRISTIAN ANDERSON will be getting his lawyer to proof read before publication to see if it  libels fairytales, i heard he caught a 78LB/8ft long TROUT once Laugh
Report ronnie rails • September 26, 2026 5:40 PM BST
30 years on Monday where have the years gone have a nice evening from an empty shop.
Ronnie.
Report uptheirons • September 26, 2026 5:46 PM BST
Btw,The Fat Man couldn't lay straight in bed,Ronnie,no matter how pleasant he appears
Report saxon farm • September 26, 2026 9:47 PM BST
uptheirons
Neither could most on here.
Report uptheirons • September 26, 2026 9:53 PM BST
They are not trying to sell books though,saxon.
Report leif • September 26, 2026 10:10 PM BST
Does he mention frankie dettori?
independent bookie on degenerate tilt.
Gary Wiltshire 'Limited' could have left his debts behind.Mischief
Report DixieDean60 • September 26, 2026 10:43 PM BST
Is this book markedly different to his first one back in 2011 (Winning It Back) ?
Obviously there is 14 years that have since passed but would there be much more to tell since then ?
Report uptheirons • September 26, 2026 10:48 PM BST
How could it be,Dixie?
Report DixieDean60 • September 26, 2026 11:03 PM BST
I don't know uti, that's why i asked Laugh
Report uptheirons • September 26, 2026 11:07 PM BST
He could have walked away and bumped the Firms with no legal obligation to pay.
He chose to do otherwise and eventually paid up after selling assets.
He took what he believed to be a great chance but lost.
Report DixieDean60 • September 26, 2026 11:11 PM BST
Yes but all that was in his first book, what if anything is different in this second one apart from more recent events ?
Report uptheirons • September 26, 2026 11:14 PM BST
I have no idea and will certainly not be paying to find out,Dixie.
Perhaps,like Earl Spencer,he spotted an opportunity to earn?
Report Ramruma • September 27, 2026 7:48 AM BST
Link in OP shows book now reduced to £7.50 from £19.95 so it won't bankrupt Father Christmas if anyone actually cares what is in it.
Report 1st time poster • September 27, 2026 9:52 AM BST
i heard wiltshire telling what he thought was a really funny story last week on ATR and he wa gushing like a 5 yr old a he toldit and it baically boiled down to a LAP DANCING CLUB INYARMOUTH HAD CLOSED DOWN,ANGELS,breaking news gary theyve been closed down for yr in a dozen places throughout the uk, and then to add to what he thinks is his very funny torie ,yeterdat for the 5th or 6th tie thi week on ATR he told his SDS been arried out of the yarmouth ring on a stretcher after losing a few bets with gary,lord only no, what he fills a 400 page book with, he,s like a retired punch drunk boxer dragging his arse around the racing mm,pods etc,thinking the same ad faces laughing at him,think he,s funny, and arnt laughing with him but at him
Report 1st time poster • September 27, 2026 9:54 AM BST
i can see the kernel of a racing pod/racing tv how here,
wiltshire,frankie,chapper,s or a their known  THE 3 BANKRUPTICIE,s
Report GLASGOWCALLING • September 27, 2026 11:31 AM BST
Gary Wiltshire never legally filed for bankruptcy. Following his catastrophic £1.4 million loss during Frankie Dettori's "Magnificent Seven" at Ascot on 28 September 1996, the legendary on-course bookmaker chose to roll up his sleeves, work around the clock, and pay back every penny he owed.To settle his massive debts without declaring bankruptcy, Wiltshire took several drastic measures:Liquidated Assets: He sold his family home and his cars to raise immediate capital.Returned to Market Trading: He went back to his roots working as a barrow boy selling flowers in London markets.Relentless Work Ethic: He stood at every race and dog meeting possible, effectively working "eight days a week" for four grueling years until all liabilities were entirely cleared.
Report tigerbalm • September 27, 2026 12:14 PM BST
dont believe that glasgow agree with up the irons bet next to him at the points nasty bit of work for sure but that was 1992
Report DixieDean60 • September 27, 2026 12:25 PM BST
I think it would have been quicker to read one of Gary's books than trying to decipher 1tp's post at 09.52 Laugh

btw, the first book called Winning It Back is only 224 pages long 1tp and is an easy and entertaining read.

He has always come across as a decent guy to me but of course "recollections may vary" as the current buzz phrase goes.
Report formoftheace • September 27, 2026 12:55 PM BST
Dettori tamed him….met him at Perth a few times just a typical person tbh…..
Report uptheirons • September 27, 2026 1:00 PM BST
He learned a very valuable lesson.
Never risk going skint on one race as Pat Whelan told me many years ago
Report HoratioNelson • September 27, 2026 1:04 PM BST
The strange thing about the whole situation that took place is that he was 100% correct in what he did.....he was just unfortunate.

Laying a 16's poke at 2's is not bad punting....it is superb punting. Wrong place, wrong time is all he copped for.
Report uptheirons • September 27, 2026 1:09 PM BST
John Pegley took a different view,Horatio.
He said that he would not play because he wasn't too sure how many in that Field would be "triers".
He was correct as it turned out
Report Ramruma • September 27, 2026 1:13 PM BST
Not quite 100% correct.

He was absolutely right to lay him but he forgot to save his bus fare home. It's the inverse of Harry Findlay losing his gardener's life savings on the All Blacks.

James Willoughby would doubtless quote the Kelly Criterion at this point, which is how tech nerds decide how much of their bank to risk given their advantage and uncertainty.
Report HoratioNelson • September 27, 2026 1:19 PM BST
I agree to a point UTI....I am sure we have all watched the last race on that day a hundred times......should it have won? Was it allowed to win?

I still don't think the jock on the 2nd was going full beans....Was it Eddery?

My Dads local pubs owner won approx £150k on the day...I don't think my Dad bought a pint for a month
Report freddiewilliams • September 27, 2026 1:24 PM BST
He was winning 2 grand before the last .but took probably 500k 600k in bets on the last.
Others must ave layed it big time. How much was the big 3 wanting rid
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