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DIFERENT GRAVY 12
10 Feb 25 11:11
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A decent bloke imo


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By:
DIFERENT GRAVY 12
When: 10 Feb 25 11:14
I told Mrs Gravy she could get it for my birthday. When she saw the link she said "Haven't you got enough books about fat blokes doing their bollox?"
By:
ronnie rails
When: 10 Feb 25 11:30
One of the nicest guys I have had the pleasure  to meet.
Ronnie.
By:
ronnie rails
When: 10 Feb 25 11:34
If you ever meet him ask him about  the Hills rep and the 26000 pound coins.
Ronnie.
By:
seaside
When: 11 Feb 25 12:44
Top bloke Garry
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 26 Sep 26 15:29
Plus 2 grand  before last Frankie race....minus 1.2 mil
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 26 Sep 26 15:33
Is that in the book
By:
stu
When: 26 Sep 26 15:37
"Haven't you got enough books about fat blokes doing their bollox?"

Laugh

To be fair she has a point about gambling bio type books, they do all seem like that!
By:
stu
When: 26 Sep 26 15:37
Been reading the Harry Findlay one (see above). Not bad, but reads a bit like I'd imagine he bets - all over the flamin place!
By:
uptheirons
When: 26 Sep 26 15:41
Title should have been,"Living to Gamble" for HF
By:
stu
When: 26 Sep 26 15:42
You run into him irons anytime?
By:
uptheirons
When: 26 Sep 26 15:48
Plenty of times but not for some years,stu
By:
ericster
When: 26 Sep 26 16:17
Might just look out for that one.
By:
stu
When: 26 Sep 26 16:34
How did you find him irons, he seems an interesting chap.
By:
uptheirons
When: 26 Sep 26 16:41
Very friendly and always trying to help others but regularly had his price taken here without making the culprits pay,stu.
The price filchers would have abandoned ship if he had a few stopped
By:
HoratioNelson
When: 26 Sep 26 16:43
A genuine fella with a sense of humour....I asked for 7/2 a 5/2 poke at Brighton one day. He said "F*** Off......you can have 3's".... I bought him some prawns and can of coke after it won Wink
By:
stu
When: 26 Sep 26 16:46
Yep, at least the book feels pretty true to that portrayal irons, cheers.
By:
1st time poster
When: 26 Sep 26 17:32
HAANS CHRISTIAN ANDERSON will be getting his lawyer to proof read before publication to see if it  libels fairytales, i heard he caught a 78LB/8ft long TROUT once Laugh
By:
ronnie rails
When: 26 Sep 26 17:40
30 years on Monday where have the years gone have a nice evening from an empty shop.
Ronnie.
By:
uptheirons
When: 26 Sep 26 17:46
Btw,The Fat Man couldn't lay straight in bed,Ronnie,no matter how pleasant he appears
By:
saxon farm
When: 26 Sep 26 21:47
uptheirons
Neither could most on here.
By:
uptheirons
When: 26 Sep 26 21:53
They are not trying to sell books though,saxon.
By:
leif
When: 26 Sep 26 22:10
Does he mention frankie dettori?
independent bookie on degenerate tilt.
Gary Wiltshire 'Limited' could have left his debts behind.Mischief
By:
DixieDean60
When: 26 Sep 26 22:43
Is this book markedly different to his first one back in 2011 (Winning It Back) ?
Obviously there is 14 years that have since passed but would there be much more to tell since then ?
By:
uptheirons
When: 26 Sep 26 22:48
How could it be,Dixie?
By:
DixieDean60
When: 26 Sep 26 23:03
I don't know uti, that's why i asked Laugh
By:
uptheirons
When: 26 Sep 26 23:07
He could have walked away and bumped the Firms with no legal obligation to pay.
He chose to do otherwise and eventually paid up after selling assets.
He took what he believed to be a great chance but lost.
By:
DixieDean60
When: 26 Sep 26 23:11
Yes but all that was in his first book, what if anything is different in this second one apart from more recent events ?
By:
uptheirons
When: 26 Sep 26 23:14
I have no idea and will certainly not be paying to find out,Dixie.
Perhaps,like Earl Spencer,he spotted an opportunity to earn?
By:
Ramruma
When: 27 Sep 26 07:48
Link in OP shows book now reduced to £7.50 from £19.95 so it won't bankrupt Father Christmas if anyone actually cares what is in it.
By:
1st time poster
When: 27 Sep 26 09:52
i heard wiltshire telling what he thought was a really funny story last week on ATR and he wa gushing like a 5 yr old a he toldit and it baically boiled down to a LAP DANCING CLUB INYARMOUTH HAD CLOSED DOWN,ANGELS,breaking news gary theyve been closed down for yr in a dozen places throughout the uk, and then to add to what he thinks is his very funny torie ,yeterdat for the 5th or 6th tie thi week on ATR he told his SDS been arried out of the yarmouth ring on a stretcher after losing a few bets with gary,lord only no, what he fills a 400 page book with, he,s like a retired punch drunk boxer dragging his arse around the racing mm,pods etc,thinking the same ad faces laughing at him,think he,s funny, and arnt laughing with him but at him
By:
1st time poster
When: 27 Sep 26 09:54
i can see the kernel of a racing pod/racing tv how here,
wiltshire,frankie,chapper,s or a their known  THE 3 BANKRUPTICIE,s
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 27 Sep 26 11:31
Gary Wiltshire never legally filed for bankruptcy. Following his catastrophic £1.4 million loss during Frankie Dettori's "Magnificent Seven" at Ascot on 28 September 1996, the legendary on-course bookmaker chose to roll up his sleeves, work around the clock, and pay back every penny he owed.To settle his massive debts without declaring bankruptcy, Wiltshire took several drastic measures:Liquidated Assets: He sold his family home and his cars to raise immediate capital.Returned to Market Trading: He went back to his roots working as a barrow boy selling flowers in London markets.Relentless Work Ethic: He stood at every race and dog meeting possible, effectively working "eight days a week" for four grueling years until all liabilities were entirely cleared.
By:
tigerbalm
When: 27 Sep 26 12:14
dont believe that glasgow agree with up the irons bet next to him at the points nasty bit of work for sure but that was 1992
By:
DixieDean60
When: 27 Sep 26 12:25
I think it would have been quicker to read one of Gary's books than trying to decipher 1tp's post at 09.52 Laugh

btw, the first book called Winning It Back is only 224 pages long 1tp and is an easy and entertaining read.

He has always come across as a decent guy to me but of course "recollections may vary" as the current buzz phrase goes.
By:
formoftheace
When: 27 Sep 26 12:55
Dettori tamed him….met him at Perth a few times just a typical person tbh…..
By:
uptheirons
When: 27 Sep 26 13:00
He learned a very valuable lesson.
Never risk going skint on one race as Pat Whelan told me many years ago
By:
HoratioNelson
When: 27 Sep 26 13:04
The strange thing about the whole situation that took place is that he was 100% correct in what he did.....he was just unfortunate.

Laying a 16's poke at 2's is not bad punting....it is superb punting. Wrong place, wrong time is all he copped for.
By:
uptheirons
When: 27 Sep 26 13:09
John Pegley took a different view,Horatio.
He said that he would not play because he wasn't too sure how many in that Field would be "triers".
He was correct as it turned out
By:
Ramruma
When: 27 Sep 26 13:13
Not quite 100% correct.

He was absolutely right to lay him but he forgot to save his bus fare home. It's the inverse of Harry Findlay losing his gardener's life savings on the All Blacks.

James Willoughby would doubtless quote the Kelly Criterion at this point, which is how tech nerds decide how much of their bank to risk given their advantage and uncertainty.
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