Sir Gino..NR..

Doubt he needs a racecourse prep for the Arkle based on how well Hendo had prepared him first time out

So a good chance he goes to the Arkle with one chase win, beating a horse who effectively had no chance over two miles on a sharp track. Not great for an odds on shot. Presumably, Majborough will get a bit shorter.

Well chief won the Arkle after just one run at Taunton

If he was the only one then it emphasises the difficulty of the task.

Presumably, this was a very good ante-post result for the bookmakers as the market was all over him, and you can imagine the champagne corks really will be popping if they can get him beat in March as well. Majborough in to 7/4.

Not sure if to the only one without checking but I remembered well chief.

Going back to 1980 anaglogs daughter my first arkle only well chief has achieved this to the best of my memory

Remember it well. He smacked the crap out of one of the fences on his debut and still won easy. I rushed on the phone and got 500 quid at 20s and was there to see him win that year. Johnson in his interview after said he had backed him for the race.



jimnast 07 Feb 25 10:30 Joined: 03 Jan 01 | Topic/replies: 15,554 | Blogger: jimnast's blog

Well chief won the Arkle after just one run at Taunton

From twitter

We have some news to share on Sir Gino.

Regrettably Sir Gino will be unable to run at Newbury tomorrow as he has sustained a small wound to the inside of his near hind leg which is sore, it must have occurred during routine exercise yesterday and although he is less sore this morning than last night I am afraid it will not be completely cleared by Saturday. We anticipate that he will be back to normal by the beginning of next week so the timing is very unfortunate. This will leave us with a dilemma where to go in order to get another run before the Arkle. The Pendil at Kempton would be an option although it is over 2 ½ which is not ideal. There are very few alternatives except for a newly created 2m novice at Bangor on 26th February but that is getting horribly close to Cheltenham

Declared a non runner for the arkle after a big drift in a new days time?

Eric on the morning of the Taunton race 33/1 and back then you could get on the the betting offices happy days trained by a genius.

I thought maybe CH had something wrong with him and Sir Gino was being kept back for the Champion Hurdle

Has this ever happened before with one of nickys?

I agree with in hell.
Backed Sir G for champ hurdle at 25s, why not
Weird stuff starts to happen near to chelts.

Very true jimnast it’s a shame they are times that will never return. The phone was so convenient especially if you made a quick judgement on a price before the masses twigged it.

If he is injured he wont be going Champion Hurdle or Arkle. If he isnt injured he will go Arkle.

We could maybe have a Binocular situation on our hands can you let me know when he goes stratospheric in price please lolol.

Wasnt stopping at Kempton over Christmas time, surely 2 1/2 miles within scope of horse given race
will cut-up even more if he participates and Nico can set his own fractions if he wants,
plus he's won over an extended 2m at Cheltenham

Agreed NEC, the crucial thing is the jumping practice.

Looking thru the last 16 runnings of the Arkle the only winner off the back of one chase run was Western Warhorse in 2014.
If Sir Gino doesn't run again over fences that's some stat to overcome.
Not saying he can't win, but not the ideal prep for an odds on poke.

Be it one thing or another, you just knew that there was always going to be some kind of drama from the stable.

The next current project for Hendo to guff and bs about to the public and press. Will just sit and watch him tying himself up into knots with this

Oh no another will he won't he, Hendo soap opera? As usual news follows a positive write up in the RP on Wed.

difference than in the past is trainers will have stiffer fencersat home than they do on racecourses these days and he can jump 50 a week if they wish,not as if he,d be running against anymore more than 2 or 3 rivals in any race before the ARKLE,so he,s never going to run in a large competitive field before the ARKLE anyway

I prefer Majborough now after his last run in a grade 1 which he won in a canter.

Oh dear! Here we go again. Hendo at his best.

From a contact within stable. Not major issue - keep punting him I'm advised!!

rolland,  which stable's that? Henderson's or Unibet's ante-post department?

both are the same thing

the stable must make dough behind the old man's back is my sincere belief

There's always Punchestown if the Festival is missed.

Sore Gino.

Bad day for Gino's...

Feb 7, 2025 -- 6:03PM, impossible123 wrote:

There's always Punchestown if the Festival is missed.

Little cheer for those antepost in a 2 horse race. Would have backed him but not involved, it's the fibs and bull of the trainer that I'll find unbearable if it drags up to cheltenham week - valuable airspace ruined

Fao Swifty nifty. I don't have any parties in Unibet mate so will stick with the Hendo team. You ok with that I hope.

Fao Swifty nifty. I don't have any parties in Unibet mate so will stick with the Hendo team. You ok with that I hope.

Fao Swifty nifty. I don't have any parties in Unibet mate so will stick with the Hendo team. You ok with that I hope.

Fao Swifty nifty. I don't have any parties in Unibet mate so will stick with the Hendo team. You ok with that I hope.

Fao Swifty nifty. I don't have any parties in Unibet mate so will stick with the Hendo team. You ok with that I hope.

It's prudent not to back any shortie of Hendo's antepost with nrnb given his past and association with a bookie. Apparently, he's thinking about a 20f race at Kempton 2 weeks prior to Cheltenham. Lunacy or utmost desperation? Nothing in Ireland?

Just when we think you cannot get thicker, you defy us Impossible!!

Surely nrnb gives you the safety net???

Can someone explain to the lad what this means.

Dame Nicky not so upbeat re Sir Gino this morning

But it is not a problem! So why make all this fuss?

The injury itself is not the issue but the infection is causing concern as time is short for medication to control it.

Oh! A slight setback in his recovery. A typical Hendo phenomenon. Why does he not wait until Sir Gino's sustained a steady recovery prior to updating the pubic? The horse is odds against now,...was 4/6 prior to initial setback.

You are an imbecile Impossible.

Its just really boring. I backed Sir Gino for Cheltenham ante post last year at a decent price and it is so frustrating to watch him to continue to hammer everything this season. I'm on him ante post again and now considering laying him to get as much as my money back as possible. Often there is no info at all about Hendo inmates when they run bad until afterwards. The stable is not punter friendly.

#straighttohaldongoldcup

Stupid comments on ere as per usual.
Nicky.H. is constantly giving updates,Trainers in this day of age give more interviews or updates then ever.
horses get injured or have issues its the nature of the beast
As for antepost betting only mugs play that game.
Deary me no pleasin some

As an isolated incident it is something that happens but why is it that the best GB trainer at Cheltenham over the years seems to manage to get an odds on shot injured at a crucial time so often? It is the management of the yard that is the issue, not his explanations.

Ante post betting used to be brilliant, I've had some right touches over the years at Cheltenham. But have to agree in recent years it has became more and more a waste of time. And yes some trainers do give more interviews and updates, but so what? It never seems to translate to info that helps from a betting pov, just noise...

Hendo needs to practise "less is more". The updates seem to be hasty, unnecessary, inaccurate and hazardous to punters. Henod is the champion on this.

Another opportunity, like every year now ut seems, for bookies to take money from the panic punters wanting to now get on something else in the race. Like kids st Christmas morning for them.

rolland • February 7, 2025 4:45 PM GMT
From a contact within stable. Not major issue - keep punting him I'm advised!!

Let's hope betfair have a very close look at your account

in fact why wait for betfair, post your back bets on here rolland.

Sad for the horse, connections and punters. Spared the updates - Henderson could have made a much bigger mess with this with time

Nothing new in ante post betting MJK, it was always thus although the conspiracy crowd on here seem to think Nicky deliberately nobbles his valuable charges so the stable lads can lay them.

Told the Forum yesterday it was the infection that was the worry, not much they could do about it getting worse.

Oh dear! Very bad news on the horse, lesser for punters. The horse has been ruled out for the entire season. His condition has worsened and he's in an equine hospital; the infection has transgressed and is affecting the ligament in his near hind  leg.

Get well soon Sir Gino!

Shame the trainer told everyone though Impossible, you would have preferred it to be revealed next week according to your imbecilic posts, btw well done for catching up with the rest of the world!!

I lost a few quid antepost. However, I won 190p on a free spin. All in for an antepost multiple. Onward and upward, I hope (this time).

I doubt that many if any think that Nicky would nobble a horse but at his age, how much supervision does he have of everyone in the yard?

'sageform', do not even go there. The predicament horseracing UK is experiencing at the moment is taking its toll, It cannot afford anything adversely negative anymore.

One thing I'd like Hendo to learn from this is to stop the hasty update but wait until a sustained progress prior.

What a shame for the owner; French horse bought end of 2023 and missed the last two Cheltenham festivals. Another nail in the coffin of ante-post betting, Hendo's killing it off single handed...

Bookmakers and top trainers,and the main meeting of the season……must be large liability…tbf…

Unibet should be made to disclose their antepost book

Someone was on here the other day asking what Bookmakers get out of " Sponsoring " stables ? ..

  ... Well now you know.

Maybe Hendo needs to look at stable security do they have any? Not saying this wound was caused by anyone but wondered whether such a major stable has control over who is in the yard around the horses before big meetings.

Comparative peanuts i'd say Aceform , it's mainly forum chat between races.

Well done Majborough backers , so far anyway.

Ironic lyrics  from Ok Geno   D.M.Runers  "The crowd they all hailed you
And chanted your name
But they never knew like we knew"" said kevin Rowland & Nicky.

Ok= Oh.

Probably right Hayden tbf….

Odd couple of quid at 100 Only by Night at lunchtime , just in case ........it runs .

^^I think it will

You'd need binoculars to spot it running in the Arkle   

Lol

£160 to nothing now ..........

This is happening far too often to his top class horses just before Cheltenham. Different ailments. Is it really all just bad luck? Unibet....

Some serious ignorance on here but your post near the top of the most moronic slickster!!!

Poor bloke just seems cursed.

Hope Sir Gino recovers well.

I don't bet ante post anymore wait until non runner no bet.

The issue Henderson has is there is this uncanny knack of him saying everything is fine versus his horse being massively layed on BF.

mmm.. so what happens if nearer the race a class horse is switched into your race making the previous antepost nrnb market a mockery and your 4/1 shot a 12/1 shot all of a sudden. How does nrnb help you then?

Also what if your main opponent who was 10s turns in an amazing performance making your 4/1 nrnb shot a 12/1 nrnb shot. How does nrnb help you then?

At least taking similar shtty prices on the day of race you will know what the opposition is going to be and make informed decisions on your betting which may be having your bet on a different race where you fancy one more.

nrnb being safe is a total fallacy.



seaside 11 Feb 25 12:37 Joined: 25 Sep 02 | Topic/replies: 2,991 | Blogger: seaside's blog
I don't bet ante post anymore wait until non runner no bet

Seaside might not be the sharpest eric but he makes you look on a par with Impossible!! The difference being that unlike your fantasy AP bets he will get his money back for a non runner which is the point!!!

The point being made is it is better to wait and instead take a similar price to nrnb but on the day of the race when you know exactly what you are betting on, who is running against you and their latest form, the ground on the day, stable form at the meeting, the last previous run of your horse already known.

It’s a no-brainer, why tie your money up for weeks to be worse off not knowing all of the above if your horse DOES run in the end?

If this is too much for you to understand ask a nearby child to explain it. I doubt they would take nrnb this close to the meeting unless it was a standout price.

How thick does that make you eric for betting crap ante post prices with the exact same scenario as seaside?

Nrnb is OK if your a fav backer but kills any joy for having a multi or e/w on summit bigger, same as increased place prices, just squeezing thge life out of it.

Best value for most punters will be on bf exchange  on the day, simples.

Tote and oncourse will be worst although very similar, tote win  now a price and will struggle to beat SP in most cases.

Encouraging picture on facebook yesterday with horse and trainer.Let`s hope so.

No more post plz until he's totally off danger and back in his stable. I cringe each time there is a post here.

Well don’t read them

I meant I feared the worst when a post appeared.

Apologies impossible

No worries 'jimnast'. Old age makes me type the wrong word to what I'm thinking eg cringe instead of fear the worst.

It's at the back door ffs nobody died

"Nicky Henderson is hopeful of a more positive outlook for Sir Gino next week as the unbeaten superstar continues his treatment at Donnington Grove veterinary hospital.

The top-class novice chaser has been battling a superbug according to Henderson, who said on Monday that there was "still a way to go yet" for Sir Gino to fully recover."

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz