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Storm Alert
25 Jan 25 15:26
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Layed this @ 1.82 and Betfair have incorrectly settled as a loser. Anybody else?
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Report stewarts rise January 25, 2025 3:36 PM GMT
Paid out here.   

Cheltenham 25th Jan : Constitution Hill To Win By Over 8 Lengths
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Selection
Odds    Stake (£)    Bid type    Placed    Profit/Loss (£)

Yes
*2.09    39.00    Lay   
25-Jan-25 14:55
39.00
*Average odds:  On  Off                   
Back subtotal:    0.00
Lay subtotal:    39.00
Market subtotal:    39.00
Commission @ 2%:    0.78
Net Market Total:    38.22
Report elise January 25, 2025 3:38 PM GMT
i thought they had it correct, unless you have clicked in the wrong box?
Report Storm Alert January 25, 2025 3:39 PM GMT
Thanks. I must have misunderstood the market and should have placed a back bet instead of lay bet. What a PIA.
15:00 Cheltenham
No - Constitution Hill To Win By Over 8 Lengths
Betfair Bet ID 1:375466796986 | Placed: 25-Jan-25 11:23:23
Report wondersobright January 25, 2025 3:43 PM GMT
if you've laid no then you have bet yes...so BF have settled correctly
Report GLASGOWCALLING January 25, 2025 3:43 PM GMT
.... Thats a Winning bet.
Report GLASGOWCALLING January 25, 2025 3:45 PM GMT
..  Sorry my mistake, you getting me at it now. Laugh
Report Storm Alert January 25, 2025 3:50 PM GMT
I'm amazed it was odds on to win by over 8l. I think the prices threw me, need to pay more attention...
Report elise January 25, 2025 3:52 PM GMT
you won't be the only person to do it, there's been confusion before
Report GLASGOWCALLING January 25, 2025 4:05 PM GMT
I have never bet in these distance markets ( maybe just as well )  I saw NO and automatically assumed it was a Lay bet.
Report Storm Alert January 25, 2025 4:08 PM GMT
Its annoying that I can't go back and check the market to see exactly how it tripped me up.
Report wondersobright January 25, 2025 4:10 PM GMT
a lay is a bet against, so a lay of "no" is a bet against "no"

its simple
Report Storm Alert January 25, 2025 4:11 PM GMT
Ah, just seen the same market for Potters Charm. There are Yes and a No lines, both of which you can choose to bet or lay. Far too confusing for my pea sized brain...
Report stewarts rise January 25, 2025 4:18 PM GMT
Agree, they really only need a simple back/lay market not 2 choices.
Report impossible123 January 25, 2025 4:19 PM GMT
Maybe take to the matter to IBAS. Betfair is known for job-release individuals setting up malformed betting markets.
Report Storm Alert January 25, 2025 4:34 PM GMT
Thanks for the help etc. Just got accept it, my mistake. It never fails to amaze me how many different ways I fashion a losing bet from a sure-fire certainty; another one for my collection. Laugh
Report impossible123 January 25, 2025 4:38 PM GMT
I've done the same at least twice. Once when I just walked into the house with barely two minutes to the race.
Report 1st time poster January 25, 2025 4:43 PM GMT
1 to 12 winner hoe does he find them LaughLaugh
Report Rico-Dangleflaps January 25, 2025 4:56 PM GMT
metal detector.
Report FELTFAIR January 25, 2025 5:23 PM GMT
When betting on a race with a long odds on favourite used to offer win over 3 lengths, win under 3 lengths and win exactly 3 lengths on the flat and the same over the jumps but 6 lengths.The betting was only on the distance so the hot favourite could get beat and the punter could still win. In the huge majority of cases the favourite did win but the "under" pick prevailed in most cases because it seemed that the jockey and connections wanted to win but to not go "balls out."
Report Hayden January 25, 2025 5:41 PM GMT
Distances not as easy to the eye these days Felt , they're given based on time lapse between horses but also lengths per second , going dependent , type of surface and also whether a flat or jumps race , that's why you see some that look 3 lengths are officially sometimes over a length different.
Report FELTFAIR January 25, 2025 5:46 PM GMT
Probably right but you could only pay out on the announced distance.
Report swiftynifty January 25, 2025 5:49 PM GMT
Ridiculous way of measuring the winning distance. Typical BHA tripe.

You freeze the frame when the winner's rear has passed the line and measure, that's the distance, none of this time b0ll0x.

It was 4 lengths.
Report Hayden January 25, 2025 5:54 PM GMT
How does the Judge calculate the distances?
29 Apr 14

Distances are calculated on the elapsed time between each horse and then a scale known as the Lengths per Second Scale (Lps) is used dependent upon whether it is Flat or Jumps racing, the type of surface in use at the all-weather fixtures and the official going description issued on the day. The Scales used vary from four to five Lps for Jumps racing and from five to six Lps on the Flat. When the going description distinguishes between different parts of the course, the scale relating to the going in the straight is applied.  The table for the Lengths per Second Scale (Lps) can be viewed here.
Report 1st time poster January 25, 2025 5:54 PM GMT
at Redcar the last 100 yrs has all different coloured fence posts,I've always assumed for 50 yrs  each post = a LENGTH in winning distance, would that be right before it was done on timing ?
Report hulk23 January 25, 2025 5:56 PM GMT
so if a horse is pulling up in 2nd.  comes to a standstill 10 lengths behind the winner as it crosses the line.

walks the rest of the course in a minute.  is the winning distance 80 lengths ??
Report swiftynifty January 25, 2025 5:58 PM GMT
exactly hulk, it's utter nonsense.
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