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Rico-Dangleflaps
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Report leif January 25, 2025 2:59 PM GMT
Any chance he could win by 10+ just because the rest are so slow in comparison.
Report stewarts rise January 25, 2025 3:00 PM GMT
Must have a good chance but will jockey ease up?
Report impossible123 January 25, 2025 3:01 PM GMT
'stewarts rise', nothing. A 400p profit on a positive result cannot be bad for 6 mins.
Report impossible123 January 25, 2025 3:02 PM GMT
I think the pace is too slow for him. If winning, more than 8l probable.
Report shiny new shoes please January 25, 2025 3:03 PM GMT
1.08 2 places
Laugh
Report stu January 25, 2025 3:05 PM GMT
fook me
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk January 25, 2025 3:06 PM GMT
thats 3 timesw nico has had backers hearts in mouths now on that machine
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk January 25, 2025 3:06 PM GMT
thats 3 timesw nico has had backers hearts in mouths now on that machine
Report Lee Ho Fooks January 25, 2025 3:06 PM GMT
Not the first time it's put a jump like that in
Report stewarts rise January 25, 2025 3:06 PM GMT
Less than 4.5 lengths wasn't it?
Report Rico-Dangleflaps January 25, 2025 3:06 PM GMT
looks 4L ish..backers +4.5 swetting.
Report duffy January 25, 2025 3:06 PM GMT
I actually screamed out thenGrin
Report maleuk01. January 25, 2025 3:07 PM GMT
Nico always deliberately loses the distance bets on CH

Must be getting paid a nice sum from the bookies.

Looks about 4 lengths
Report elise January 25, 2025 3:07 PM GMT
im not sure that's going to be 4.5 on the clock
Report maleuk01. January 25, 2025 3:07 PM GMT
Nearly fell at the last because he was slowing him down to much
Report maleuk01. January 25, 2025 3:07 PM GMT
Nearly fell at the last because he was slowing him down to much
Report Whippin Piccadilly January 25, 2025 3:08 PM GMT
CH helped Nico out there.
Report hulk23 January 25, 2025 3:08 PM GMT
I think 8/11 (4.5l+) and 1/1 (6l+) are the best two on offer

nico's done you there, could've won 100 lengths if he'd wanted to ...
Report Whippin Piccadilly January 25, 2025 3:08 PM GMT
An awful "winning" ride IMO
Report Rico-Dangleflaps January 25, 2025 3:09 PM GMT
Distances:    3L
Report 1st time poster January 25, 2025 3:09 PM GMT
if you took a neck,Nico would win a head,don't think he,s ever landed the most common distance bet on the day and could have landed them all
Report wondersobright January 25, 2025 3:09 PM GMT

Jan 25, 2025 -- 3:06PM, stewarts rise wrote:


Less than 4.5 lengths wasn't it?


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Report Theoneandonly January 25, 2025 3:09 PM GMT
^^^^ Nico was that busy looking around trying not to win by too far he almost did himself instead of just letting the horse get on with it.
Report impossible123 January 25, 2025 3:10 PM GMT
That why the race is sponsored by the stable paymaster.
Report wondersobright January 25, 2025 3:10 PM GMT
fighting fifth hurdle was overs
Report elise January 25, 2025 3:10 PM GMT
ive seen a 3 length posted
Report ALIEN SEX FIEND January 25, 2025 3:10 PM GMT
The reality is that he is gone, no ******* chance of winning another Champion Hurdle.  I have to admit I thought before his return...as I never expected him to return. Fair play to all the connections, he beat nothing, however it was to see would he back up his return run. GL to the horse and all the connections.
Report Whippin Piccadilly January 25, 2025 3:11 PM GMT
Cheques are in the post for Nicky & Hendo from their bookie friends!
Report swiftynifty January 25, 2025 3:12 PM GMT
that was more than 3L
Report Whippin Piccadilly January 25, 2025 3:13 PM GMT
What are you talking about ASF? The horse would have won by 20L+ if allowed to.
Report ALIEN SEX FIEND January 25, 2025 3:13 PM GMT
I thought 4 to 5l winning distance.
Report ALIEN SEX FIEND January 25, 2025 3:14 PM GMT
Read the whole sentence Whippin.
Report 1st time poster January 25, 2025 3:14 PM GMT
on any other day that was a fall at the last, that's what happens when jocks fook about, doing what saving a horse a furlong,s energy 6 weeks before its next race
Report wondersobright January 25, 2025 3:16 PM GMT
looked about 3.5-4 almost certainly g/s on hurdle track hence wrong lps scale being used
Report Newmarket-spurs January 25, 2025 3:18 PM GMT
Saved by the horse! Only amateur jockey Nico DB could get Constitution Hill beat. He nearly pulled it off!
Report Rico-Dangleflaps January 25, 2025 3:19 PM GMT
was deffo 3.5L min. meks knee diff to over 4.5 like.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps January 25, 2025 3:20 PM GMT
he didnt nearly get it beat..he asked it and it put down..was too far away.. nowt bonnie could do.
Report impossible123 January 25, 2025 3:20 PM GMT
Officially it was 3l. The bookies win again. I think it could have been at least 6l if Nico only had allowed him to stride on.
Report impossible123 January 25, 2025 3:24 PM GMT
Let's hope he's sound in the next few days after that miscommunication between horse and pilot.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps January 25, 2025 3:27 PM GMT
impossible123 25 Jan 25 15:20 
Officially it was 3l. The bookies win again. I think it could have been at least 6l if Nico only had allowed him to stride on.


easily been 20 if wanted.
Report formoftheace January 25, 2025 3:29 PM GMT
The cardboard fellow almost…..
Report wondersobright January 25, 2025 3:29 PM GMT
you could bet odds against on here that he didn't win by over 8
Report Rico-Dangleflaps January 25, 2025 3:33 PM GMT
mug bet unless ya in the know.
Report swiftynifty January 25, 2025 3:54 PM GMT
annoying if you backed overs(of any distance) that the jockey comes in and says it was so easy we'll need to do some harder work with him before Cheltenham.
Report hulk23 January 25, 2025 3:55 PM GMT
I think it could have been at least 6l if Nico only had allowed him to stride on.

if he'd allowed it to stride on he'd have been finishing when the rest were clearing the final hurdle ....
Report impossible123 January 25, 2025 4:04 PM GMT
Note to oneself. Never bet winning distance when Nico is onboard unless it's the main event. I think the BHA ought to have instigated an enquiry on the winning ride eg indecisive at the last and not letting the horse stride on.
Report hulk23 January 25, 2025 4:06 PM GMT
it did appear he was trying to not win by too far. 

why you would do that and then say the horse hasn't had a decent workout is a bit odd
Report impossible123 January 25, 2025 4:25 PM GMT
The horse injected a bit of pace coming to the 2nd last hurdle and opened up a 10l gap. Then Nico looked round at least twice, and eased off coming to the last. This unprofessional behaviour caused confusion for the horse. The owner was lucky his horse did not come to any untoward outcome post the blunder.

I believe Buveur D'Air did something similar and has a splint between his hoof and toe nail.
Report Cider January 25, 2025 5:09 PM GMT
Everyone knows it will be given a considerate ride in festival prep, that's why the distance prices were juicier than his dominance suggested that they should have been.

It's not a bet on the horses ability but on how the jockey is likely to play it.

Sometimes the jockey will play it safe like he did today, and they still win by many lengths as the oppo falls apart. May as well bet on a coin toss.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps January 25, 2025 5:15 PM GMT
always is on how the jockey is likely to play it.
Report Cider January 25, 2025 5:18 PM GMT
yeah so in this instance, long odds on he wouldn't be pushing out up the hill if winning easily. so those on overs are betting on him not pushing out when winning easily, and still piling on the distance. ie, a guess. educated perhaps, but still a guess
Report Cider January 25, 2025 5:22 PM GMT
personally I don't see NSB doing what he did in the supreme again, even in the CH. horse is obviously quite fragile and they will want to prolong his time at the top. outside chance I suppose if Elliot takes him on with team tactics, and the CH is blown apart
Report Cider January 25, 2025 5:22 PM GMT
NDB
Report stewarty b January 25, 2025 5:40 PM GMT
Not one bet posted. You couldn't make it up..
Report KiddyKid January 25, 2025 5:52 PM GMT
Cotton Wool ride. Nico stopped him winning by at least 10 lengths. I thought they would have given him some sort of a race even to quicken up running between the last 2 hurdles!  Oh well at least he did not fall we probably would never have seen him again!
Report impossible123 January 26, 2025 10:57 AM GMT
Lossiemouth and State Man are poor protagonists; the latter was no match previously; the former is no 2-miler, and hyped. I think Elliot's mare could give Constitution Hill a tow for a long while...

Lossiemouth and State Man are non-effectuals.
Report pieman January 26, 2025 3:08 PM GMT
well I was there yesterday on rails and thought I saw blood on his hind leg when it cantered back in from its effective overeach.
I thought CH was stuffy yesterday and they were right to give it another prep race. I hope mistake at last hasn`t effected it too much but screwjumps like that usually have a price to pay
Report impossible123 January 26, 2025 3:19 PM GMT
All good according to Hendo. I'd wait and see. The next few days and weeks will be key to his well-being post yesterday's mis-communication between pilot and horse. I think if all is good a racecourse gallop will do him just fine prior to March event.

And, Lossiemouth and State Nan will be no contest.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps January 26, 2025 3:54 PM GMT
I thought CH was stuffy yesterday

ewe watched a different race to me.
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! January 26, 2025 3:58 PM GMT
In the paddock he does LOOK
Stuffy

Devil
Report duffy January 26, 2025 4:36 PM GMT
Don't even know what positivity could be gotten from yesterday, if he was stuffy before he'd be stuffy after, another race run at an absolute crawl through-out, even when CH took it up, the Triumph trial was miles ahead the whole way.

A piece of work that he'd do at home, minus the last flight fcuk up.
Report CagliariG January 26, 2025 4:49 PM GMT
The Forum always knows better than connections so NDB saying he was too fresh and no evidence of an overreach obviously an attempted cover up?

Btw every trainer would love to get £70 K for a workout imo!!
Report GLASGOWCALLING January 26, 2025 6:28 PM GMT
So Nico apologising to connections , banging his head in frustration at such a stupid error, we're all figments of our imaginations.?
Report CagliariG January 26, 2025 7:03 PM GMT
Does that have any relevance to the horse looking stuffy and an overreach GC, whatever " Looked stuffy" is supposed to mean about a horse hardly breathing hard enough to blow out a candle or a non existent injury?
Report formoftheace January 26, 2025 7:05 PM GMT
He doesn’t suit the horse tbh…..the cardboard man,poor tbf…..posh boy…
Report CagliariG January 26, 2025 7:10 PM GMT
Are you looking to replace Impossible123 Quixall?
Report cobs101 January 26, 2025 7:11 PM GMT
Only won 10/10 on him so far...Cool
Report formoftheace January 26, 2025 7:32 PM GMT
Point and shoot material which most would win on it…..

He looks cumbersome and nearly blew it yesterday…
Report CagliariG January 26, 2025 7:40 PM GMT
One mistake due to lack of concentration from 10 rides on the horse Quixall? Didn't look too cumbersome on several that needed strong riding e.g the Bradstock beast the other week, maybe you know better than the trainers who employ these guys you slate constantly, if so get a job as an advisor or coach?

Did you ride many horses growing up on the council estate?
Report cobs101 January 26, 2025 7:42 PM GMT
Horse not concentrating, had it too easy, mistake nothing to do with jock. All about opinions tho...Cool
Report formoftheace January 26, 2025 7:43 PM GMT
Seriously he wouldn’t look out of place at point to point…..stiff as a board…
Report duffy January 26, 2025 8:02 PM GMT
Don't think it was anything to do with lack of communication, the jockey saw a stride asked the horse up, the horse briefly considered the request before saying no thanksGrin
Report formoftheace January 26, 2025 8:14 PM GMT
I think young Bowen is missing out,a far better rider imv
Report wondersobright January 26, 2025 8:18 PM GMT
since clarence house last year bowen has been pushed back
Report wondersobright January 26, 2025 8:22 PM GMT
2020 onwards bowen figs are strong positive upward trend
just started too young imo proper jockey now
Report CagliariG January 26, 2025 8:23 PM GMT
Beat me to it wonders, gave Jonbon a horror ride compared with NDB.
Report formoftheace January 26, 2025 8:24 PM GMT
He was very good and brave on the  Harrington horse at Doncaster….maybe not posh enough
Report Rico-Dangleflaps January 26, 2025 8:29 PM GMT
david tarking pony as per...duffy says it exactly as it was.
Report formoftheace January 26, 2025 8:33 PM GMT
I’m not talking about one race or point and shoot material….he’s a fortunate posh boy imv….
Report CagliariG January 26, 2025 8:36 PM GMT
You have a chip on your shoulder Quixall and envy is indicative of failure a lot of the time.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps January 26, 2025 8:56 PM GMT
he only rides decent horses david...sew obv gona have a good strike rate..but he's still a decent jockey.
Report GLASGOWCALLING January 26, 2025 10:14 PM GMT
Unless I misheard Mccoy and Walsh on ITV both seemed to think it was jockey error, as was later seen when NDB was banging his head and apologising to all and sundry. Far too casual and instead of making the horses mind up for him nearly decked him.
Report GLASGOWCALLING January 26, 2025 10:33 PM GMT
The pained glance across to an ITV podium full of riding legends said every bit as much as the apologies uttered to owner Michael Buckley, as Nico de Boinville took instant blame for the misunderstanding with Constitution Hill at the final flight of the Unibet Hurdle that could so easily have undone his hitherto perfect Champion Hurdle prep.

And while many of the 20,000-plus crowd had taken every conceivable vantage point to applaud their returning hero, De Boinville's vague hat tip belied the impression that he thought he had almost made a mess of what should have been a straightforward assignment on the 1-12 shot.

By the time he had weighed in De Boinville had managed to relativise the momentary blip of Constitution Hill paddling through the last with the serene progress that had preceded it, much of which was marked by slick and, on occasions, spectacular jumping.
Report GLASGOWCALLING January 26, 2025 10:36 PM GMT
Nothing against the Jockey, I  backed him Saturday and have also backed him for the Champion Hurdle.

  Just cant understand folk saying it was the Horses fault.
Report GEORGE.B January 26, 2025 11:26 PM GMT
Good close-up here of the last flight

https://x.com/icyestretro/status/1883515556315517395
Report GLASGOWCALLING January 26, 2025 11:43 PM GMT
Good link that George. Not done the jockey any favours though imo.
Report impossible123 January 27, 2025 8:02 AM GMT
At least what had happened to Ruby Walsh fairly regularly coming to the last hurdle or fence eg Annie Power and Valseur Lido respectively Constitution Hill escaped relatively unscath.
Report Bentring January 27, 2025 8:45 AM GMT
Constitution hill got away with jumping the shadow in his CH Annie power didn't as for valseur and others isn't it great to be in a position to compete in these races ( die dog or **** the licence) rather than be an also ran like most of your choices
Report 1st time poster January 27, 2025 12:36 PM GMT
enhanced chelt double with slybet  jonbon and THE HILL 4,s instead of 2,s
Report Hayden January 27, 2025 1:56 PM GMT
It may look decent on numbers 1sttp but in real terms measured against an exchange the 5.00 is only marginally better than the mythical 4.86 that produces , the 2/1 as always is a total red herring created by vast over rounds making the offer differential look spectacular.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps January 27, 2025 2:51 PM GMT
its stride pattern wasnt right and horse was unsure whether to go for a biggun or not..it chose the latter..no one to blame wotsoever. People as per woffling utter ****.
Report howard January 27, 2025 3:03 PM GMT
hope it's an overcast day at cheltenham.  Don't see any dangers otherwise.
Report duffy January 27, 2025 3:59 PM GMT
Annie Power came up out of Walsh's hands, he didn't ask the horse, the horse came up a stride early catching Walsh out.

Benie Des Dieux was different again, it was a straight forward fall, Walsh asked the horse up, the horse jumped as requested and knuckled on landing.

CH was asked by Nico and refused and put in an extra stride.

Three different examples of falls IMO.
Report brandyontherocks January 27, 2025 4:13 PM GMT
No jockey error.
Just one of those things.
Report GLASGOWCALLING January 27, 2025 4:13 PM GMT
So NDB is apologising for something that he had no control over??
Report GLASGOWCALLING January 27, 2025 4:13 PM GMT
So NDB is apologising for something that he had no control over??
Report GLASGOWCALLING January 27, 2025 4:14 PM GMT
.... like me on the Post Reply button. Grin
Report duffy January 27, 2025 4:31 PM GMT
I do think he is apologizing for something that is not his fault he's probably asked the horse to see a stride and jump lots of time before and the horse has always responded, all Nico would have been doing is doing the same thing again, this time the hore said no, how could he be blamed for thinking that the horse would not do what he's done previously.

If CH was a horse that always got in close and fiddled most of his hurdles you could point the finger and say why did you ask him up when he doesn't do that, but that isn't the case here. IMO.
Report swiftynifty January 27, 2025 6:42 PM GMT
from George's close up, he was asked for a world record leap.
Report GLASGOWCALLING January 27, 2025 6:48 PM GMT
.... Exactly.
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