Matthew Trenhaile talks about Patrick Veitch

Look forward to that. Seriously shrewd guy if I correctly remember your interviews.

Sadly unwatchable for me as Matthew says , "you know" several thousand times during the interview. Once I  had picked up on it I had to turn it off as he sometimes managed to say you know several times per sentence. 
You wouldn't you know, want him, you know, as an after, you know, dinner speaker , you know... arggh !

Shame as I thoroughly enjoy all the interviews simon has done.

Didn't notice. Maybe it's your problem as you don't focus on the points someone is making.

Probably, though I only became aware of it because I was focusing on what he was saying.
It then starred distracting me and I started subconsciously counting how many times a minute he could say 'you know'..

Um! another……Lizzie Kelly……Lorraine Kelly loves “you know”……unbearable tbh…

anyone remenber the jockey Lisa Jones? She held the world record.

I hadn't noticed myself, I'm probably too engrossed in what the Trench is saying.

Generally find these interviews interesting but tbh still have no idea what this guy does or what he was on about

It wasn't so much the "you know" as the "um".

you have to know your characters cobs      Zeljko Ranogajec, according to insider accounts, deployed, for his betting activities on horse races, a strategy combined of specific factors: identifying betting opportunities with as high liquidity as possible, meaning betting pools with significant money being bet by the regular gambling public; deploying a "highly sophisticated betting system"; identifying small margins, on which he bets significant amounts of money; and, importantly, closing deals with bookmakers, including industry leader TabCorp, for significant rebates on his bets. The latter has created controversy in the horse betting world, with many punters complaining about the alleged deal. A TabCorp spokesman stated, in response to the media reports, that the corporation "investigated the incidents" and found "no evidence of illegal activity", but reminded the betting public that "the offering of tote-odds betting products by corporate bookmakers has inherent risks of pool manipulation [by large bettors]."

Ranogajec reportedly accounts for 6–8% of Australian bookmaker TabCorp's $10 billion annual revenue. His betting on Betfair is believed to account for one third of the company's Australian operations.

Ranogajec has gradually organised an extensive network of spotters, analysts, bettors and administrators, directing activities from office space he is allegedly occupying in the Fox Sports building at 235 Pyrmont Street,[11] in Sydney's inner suburb of Pyrmont. It is known that he contracts many companies to provide information and does not employ anyone directly. However indirectly due to his information requirements, to gain the edge, he provides employment to over 300 people in Australia.

Alan Woods (1945 – 26 January 2008) was an Australian and Hong Kong professional gambler and mathematician considered among the biggest gamblers in the world. Woods focused on blackjack and betting on horse racing. He has worked with Bill Benter and Zeljko Ranogajec during his career and "pioneered quantitative gambling by betting on Hong Kong horse races".[1] His estimated net worth at the time of his death was AU$670 million.[2][3]

In his heyday, Steve Cauthen was definitely the most prolific with his “ yer knowww”, in his interviews.

Howard, the man you talk about with the unpronounceable name is based in London these days and started a pool betting company over here I believe.  My knowledge is only based on reading something about him a couple of years ago.

Wingerwanger, great interviews so not knocking you, just wondering why you pulled the Rory Campbell one ?

Thanks Howard, my ignorance of the people concerned certainly didn't help!

didn't know that oneten.  But the key point I take is the rebate given for making markets. Highly likely this is bigger than the edge with the betting.  Therefore ordinary backers haven't got this advantage.

veitch claim to fame for your average punter is running a horse 2 stone below its real ability ,IE cheating fellow punters,  before cashing in ONCE when its stars aligned ,day of the race etc vand writing a book whose title could have been
THINGS THAT DIDNT HAPPEN YESTERDAY

I've a funny feeling 95% of punters would lose whether the likes of Veitch played or not.