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By:
howard
When: 17 Jan 25 12:48
on my stopped slow mo I knew the fav was beat but was too slow to back the other at 3.55.  Just as well though I could have got out on stewards betting.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 17 Jan 25 12:57
what happened to make you think there was a chance of a disq?  i cudnt see nowt.
By:
jamee1
When: 17 Jan 25 12:58

Jan 17, 2025 -- 12:44PM, Rico-Dangleflaps wrote:


glad i mist it..disq horse looked winner in foto..foto betting?


FPTP was around 3-3.5 both before and after the slo-mo. Opened similar for the stewards, drifting a little when the head-on was shown.

By:
swiftynifty
When: 17 Jan 25 13:01
Rico-Dangleflaps • January 17, 2025 12:14 PM GMT
1.01 in foto?


err, no.
By:
howard
When: 17 Jan 25 13:13
" i cudnt see nowt".   I thought there was slight danger but yeah bearing in mind it's jumps and some way out....   but when you see head on it had to be changed.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 17 Jan 25 14:12
FPTP was around 3-3.5 both before and after the slo-mo.

i find that simply incredible..what live was seen to think the 2nd was 1.4 to get the race?
By:
howard
When: 17 Jan 25 14:32
That's what I thought and why I wanted to bet fptp.  I reckon some people thought the 2nd had won on the live pics.  You couldn't be THAT SURE there was going to be a disq.  imo.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 17 Jan 25 14:36


far side deffo won..the nudge over wouldnt have been noticed on drone..even on RTV looks nowt. 3.5 incredible.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 17 Jan 25 14:37
far side deffo won..the nudge over last wouldnt have been noticed on drone..even on RTV looks nowt. 3.5 incredible.
By:
swiftynifty
When: 17 Jan 25 14:38
someone/s (in the van, whoever) are definitely watching head-ons live and betting photos accordingly. I backed fptp in the photo, and sure enough it was far too good a price to be true, not that i think in a jumps race it was a certain dq.
By:
howard
When: 17 Jan 25 14:40
It was extremely tight. I wouldn't like to have tried to call it live. And u knew if there was a stewards it would change result.
By:
howard
When: 17 Jan 25 14:45
"someone/s (in the van, whoever) are definitely watching head-ons live"   think you are on to something swifty.  Either that or someone is paying for someone to go racing and just watch all races head on with bins if needed.
By:
swiftynifty
When: 17 Jan 25 14:51
the interference after the final flight was negligible imo, so it was the interference going into the last hurdle , which again begs the question how far back in a race do you have to look for the interference to be result-changing.....half a mile, lining up in the National(?!), i think it certainly could do with clarification in the rule book.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 17 Jan 25 14:52
howard 17 Jan 25 14:40 
It was extremely tight. I wouldn't like to have tried to call it live. And u knew if there was a stewards it would change result.


max bet in stewards then?
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 17 Jan 25 14:54
i missed the 1st race..my only chance of a return over £20 is a foto..as on drone it would have been impossible to see anything i would have been in on foto far side soon as it opened after slo mo.
how much im not sure.
By:
howard
When: 17 Jan 25 14:56
the market in the stewards kind of agrees with you swifty.  The guys offering big odds KNEW there was going to be a stewards without being certain of a change.  But that's all you need to trade.
By:
howard
When: 17 Jan 25 15:02
don't think I will ever be max bet or anything at all in stewards Rico.  We know you can't trust 'em.  Look how many appeals are won.
By:
swiftynifty
When: 17 Jan 25 15:08
howard, that was my thinking , luck of the draw with which stewards panel etc, i though the eventual winner would get it but it was too short for me to limit the damage so thought I'd sweat it out, wrongly of course!
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 17 Jan 25 15:12
i realise it was an inch but cant recall when the last horse was disq for interference during a jump.
By:
howard
When: 17 Jan 25 15:20
yeah bottom line is someone knew there would be a stewards.   They would have needed a live head on view to think that imo.
By:
howard
When: 17 Jan 25 15:29
btw I started this thread before a stewards was announced but rtv were talking about possible.
By:
howard
When: 17 Jan 25 15:33
Is it worth you paying a man to go racing ? Say at the AW tracks esp. Newc.
By:
elise
When: 17 Jan 25 15:49
right after they crossed the line one of the comms last something about the last hurdle and them maybe taking a look, i didn't think it was that bad on watching live
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 17 Jan 25 15:51
who in their right mind would lay 5/2 a winner cos its caused minor interence in flight?
By:
swiftynifty
When: 17 Jan 25 15:55
chief stipe
By:
swiftynifty
When: 17 Jan 25 15:57
same person who didn't want 1.5 on the 2ptp for 5 mins but happily took 1.18 just before the announcement.

if Betfair had any credibility.........


....paper trails...my rrrrrrrrs
By:
elise
When: 17 Jan 25 15:57
i didn't watch the betting mainly as they didnt call a stewards quickly
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 17 Jan 25 16:00
Toyah's song is playing.
By:
elise
When: 17 Jan 25 16:03
indeed, the stewards report is pretty clear tho as to why they reversed, just never saw it like that myself live
By:
swiftynifty
When: 17 Jan 25 16:08
The Stewards considered that the interference had improved LAHIRE (FR)’s placing as when jumping the last DOUBLE OBAN received a significant bump and was taken off its intended line by LAHIRE (FR) losing both ground and momentum, to then run on strongly to be beaten a diminishing nose margin at the line. Having taken this into account the Stewards were satisfied that the interference suffered by DOUBLE OBAN was more than the minimum margin of a nose between the runners at the line and revised the placings

I have no problem with the DQ, the problem is you can't trust a different set of stewards to follow the same principles next time.

So any horse, bumped and taken off its intended line beaten a marginal distance must get the race. We'll see.
By:
swiftynifty
When: 17 Jan 25 16:09
... you'll have a similar incident with stewards saying the second had enough time to get passed, result stands.

i disagree with that approach by the way.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 17 Jan 25 16:24
it has 100% cost it way more than the winning distance..but others have lost ground being hmp taking off and nowt done.
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 17 Jan 25 17:57
someone/s (in the van, whoever) are definitely watching head-ons live and betting photos accordingly. I backed fptp in the photo, and sure enough it was far too good a price to be true, not that i think in a jumps race it was a certain dq.

 
RUK Showed the side on before the last, it looked Horrific with the winner getting carried way off course.
By:
1st time poster
When: 18 Jan 25 10:31
It might have closing at the line but it  was also as close half way up the run in and the eventual winner himself hung towards the 1ptp, no certaintity it would have gone by the 1ptp at anytime
By:
howard
When: 18 Jan 25 11:51
" no certaintity it would have gone by the 1ptp at anytime"    It WAS in front less than a foot after the line   Crazy
By:
1st time poster
When: 18 Jan 25 11:54
would it have been in front 4 foot after the line is the point
By:
howard
When: 18 Jan 25 11:58
nice day in Rampton ?
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 18 Jan 25 13:04
GLASGOWCALLING 17 Jan 25 17:57 
someone/s (in the van, whoever) are definitely watching head-ons live and betting photos accordingly. I backed fptp in the photo, and sure enough it was far too good a price to be true, not that i think in a jumps race it was a certain dq.


RUK Showed the side on before the last, it looked Horrific with the winner getting carried way off course.

ive just showed someone replay, he said..'cant see much on RTV'.
By:
howard
When: 19 Jan 25 11:53
" I backed fptp in the photo"    "RUK Showed the side on before the last, it looked Horrific with the winner getting carried way off course".    Crazy
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 19 Jan 25 12:21
hd on looked bad..side on didnt.
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