StatemanV Brighterdaysahead Leopardstown...

Are you for real 'acey'? I think State Man will win easy. I think Constitution Hill will serve it up to Lossiemouth too.

Yip !!

which is it imp?

impossible12323 Dec 24 13:58Joined: 07 Sep 15 | Topic/replies: 29,203 | Blogger: impossible123's blog
Both have been declared. I'd go for the mare betting wise here. This way I'll get a financial reward

Brighterdaysahead will pounce late to Win.

3rd ?

Bring On Costitution Hill.

Townend gift

Massacre

Big price for the Champion if she goes for it

1st Brighterdaysahead (FR) (7)5/2
2nd Winter Fog  (6)66/1
3rd State Man (FR) (5)4/9fav
4th Fils d'Oudairies (FR) (2)200/1

if this mare or lossie go for mares hurdle absolute travesty

No way in the World will she go for The Mares Hurdle after that.

been done before

betting market got that all wrong and I couldn't see why BDA had already beat State Man that day 3/4 lengths, so how the market could make State Man, such a short price was ridiculous got 3,85 for BDA and it was one way traffic between the 2nd fav and fav.

would you take evens now that both rock up in champion

State Man clearly not suited by being held up, wonder why they tried that when racing prominently has been a very successful tactic for the horse?

The Public would not allow it i would personally go to Cheltenham to boooo her all the way to the Winners enclosure.

30 length turnaround from morgiana & with a run under his belt...pretty obvious that plenty of willies aren't 100% at the mo

drifting on here telling story as well JPs in 1st yesterday only exception

apart from GDC and F2F Mullins' horses are running like dogs.
Must be a problem, imo

I cant state right here right now she Will go for The Champion Hurdle.

Dec 29, 2024 -- 2:41PM, wondersobright wrote:

would you take evens now that both rock up in champion

acey

Gordon said Mares with a smile on his face and ran away from Gary

Good to see Townend look like a **** for a change i mean what the fack was that?

35mph down the back acey...then pace slowed down under 30mph end of back straight & state man was making no progress, in fact lost ground
nothing to do with jockeys that result

definitely sickness in the Mullins yard...cant remember that much in recent years

Dont know about Lossiemouth wonder but Brighterdaysahead will only be going for one race.

even gordon saying got the fractions wrong up front

Dec 29, 2024 -- 2:47PM, isleham wrote:

definitely sickness in the Mullins yard...cant remember that much in recent years

all this xmas form will look suspect in the spring

Looks like something amiss with stable.Three favourites beaten now,and a NR Daddy Long Legs coughing apparently.

Townend handed a horse who beat him LTO a massive lead from the off.
Saying that State Man didn't even beat Winter Fog,probably not right.
Good performance from the Wnr though.

I thought Townend was holding on to plenty early on maybe rico can tell us different.

Thirty lengths! Brighterdaysahead 4-1 for Champion Hurdle after leaving State Man trailing with remarkable Grade 1 success

She’s special. Also placepot buster unless you had her in

impossible12323 Dec 24 17:30Joined: 07 Sep 15 | Topic/replies: 29,264 | Blogger: impossible123's blog
Are you for real 'acey'? I think State Man will win easy. I think Constitution Hill will serve it up to Lossiemouth too.

Aye.

Just watched Owner being interviewed.....It's on Lads.

odds on she runs in mares hurdle straight from o'leary

that race can get in the bin fkin sick of it

Not a hope in hell she goes for te Mares Race.

at least 1 of them will bottle it imo

Fair enough a lot can go wrong between now and Cheltenham but as it stands we all know it will be The Champion Hurdle.

That performance put an end to any other Race.

That old Warrior Stateman has had his Day.

I don’t know Acey. If Lossiemouth must go Champion…chuck in Con Hill.Otherwise Mullins has no runner when had 1st and 2nd fav 5days ago

Placepot paid £1416 with Stateman out. Unbelievable

Love Brighterdays

Come on Stateman is all washed up ffs.

Hilbore there were 5 unplaced favourites ffs.

Lossiemouth must go Champion. Surely. Only beaten 2 lengths and might have more chance against Cons Hill ?

Jetera wins Mares otherwise

2nd fav or 3rd in every race Acey. Mostly 2nd favs. Fav in first and Stateman did the damage.

Did Townend deliberately finish behind the 66-1 no hoper Winter Fog to take the heat off him for riding a **** of a Race?.....Asking for a friend.

Opinions welcome.

Patrick Mullins writing for Sky Bet:

“But I’m all in on State Man here. Whatever santa cost, whatever the Christmas dinner cost, get it back on State Man.“

Hmm.

or maybe they changed their minds and laid argento boy for 5 grand to pay the Xmas ex,s

'Acey', my sincere apology. I did not envisage Townend could ride the reigning Champion Hurdler like dog poo. But, in Ireland anything goes eg Geraghty on Noble Emperor at Limerick.

Maybe State Man was sulking because of his pilot, or gone with the game or Mr Mullins' charges are under a cloud. One more trial left here and in England for Lossiemouth and State Man; Mystical Power ran like dog poo too.

Apples Jade, Cyrname, Hawkwing etc - if it looks too good to be true............

acey deucy 29 Dec 24 16:26 
Did Townend deliberately finish behind the 66-1 no hoper Winter Fog to take the heat off him for riding a **** of a Race?.....Asking for a friend

was still 6/4 4 out...lay much?

I dont think Townend will sleep to well the Night after that ride....Mr cool let the front two get far far to much Daylight and he knows it.

I am a massive Townend fan i think he is brilliant but he facked up there of course he would have got beat anyway but not by 30l ffs.

Townend did nothing wrong, he thought they were going too fast just like every other person who watched the race did, if they were getting a cheap lead King of Kingsfield wouldn't have been falling out the back of the telly late on, but he was because they went too fast, well what you'd think was too fast, trouble is, the winner showed herself to be a monster that didn't conform to usual confounds, that's why despite the pace they went she was still maintaining the gap, eased down right to the line.

If Stateman tried to lay up with the front two throughout he'd have been stretchered out off the home turn too.

Looking back at the race Townend was squeezing State Man from about halfway. Perhaps the horse needs it softer these days, or isn't the same horse anymore? He took an age to get past the pacemaker, then got passed by a horse he would've shrug aside easily last season.

another way of looking at it is statesman may have been another in the yard that is not right for whatever reason, bug can affect many but some escape it or have not been affected by it as yet ,same with us 30 or 40 people together 1 has a bug/flu a week later most have caught it or showing symptoms but a it wont affect all a handful will escape it . can you take that race at face value would the mare beat stateman 30 plus lengths in normal circs ? has she improved 30 pounds in 5 or 6 weeks ? very doubtful ,more like shes run to form and stateman wasn't  right  ,loads of the yards horses have performed below expectations .

Townend said he knew after the first he was in trouble as the horse felt flat. Big few weeks before the DRF for Willie to get them right.

Patrick Mullins for Sky Bet:

“I'd still like another go at her with State Man in February“

Presumably he’ll be urging you to lump on in February to recover the money spent on Christmas and lost due to State Man being squeezed dry in the biggest mismatch since Eskimo Nell v Mexico Pete.

And the worrying thing is Brighterdaysahead and Lossiemouth look like they will both miss The Irish Champion Hurdle.

There’s logic in Mullins words. If BDA goes there is she really going to make it a big test again so close to Cheltenham up the hill not long after. I think not.

The tactics and probably a better horse now in BDA are what beat State Man who may be declining

Lossiemouth could do with more experience at Cheltenham in the Unibet International

State Man experienced a race that he'd pretty much never experienced before, in the CH that he lost to Con Hill he was gradually squeezed until he was left with nothing to offer late on, here it was more aggressively applied and it killed him off much quicker, he's built his legacy in races completely different to this, he didn't under perform, this is what he really is and probably always has been it's just that he's rarely before ever had the opposition to expose it.

Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles aka Duffy and Eric or vice versa, clueless !!!

I agree Duffy Stateman did not underperfom Ballyburn did not underperform and neither dod Lossiemouth that is how i see it anyway.

After her victory on Sunday, they would be crazy to run Brighterdaysahead again before Cheltenham.

ROFL re- State Man!!! Suddenly regressed to less than 150, behave acey!!

Show your workings on State Man Cagliari, show us the races he has previously run in and won that were similar to the way the race was run the other day in order to show that he was capable of a performance required to win the other day so we have evidence to see that it might have just been an off day??. What race are you highlighting as an example???

You seem to believe all those grade 1's he won against non grade 1 2 milers in races run at dawdles warranted his lofty rating of 169...that's where we differ, I think that if he faced the race he faced the other day more often he would have been exposed a long time ago.

Winter Fog is rated same as Burdett Road so not a bad effort