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I've noticed this going on in the last week...plenty of money (well it appears so!), and the moment I place my bet the odds disappear. Now I can understand if the race didn't have much money in it, but the 3.35 Ascot (biggest race of the day) with 30 mins until race time?? As I keep saying 'It's all an illusion'
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My mouse click alerts their bot first and then my bet gets submitted..is this in the t&c?
careful with the conspiracy theory stuff revs, tigger will send the boys round. everything is rosey in the betfair garden or it's a knuckle sandwich ...
I always find this one hard to understand how it might work.
There's loads of money visible to revs until he places his bet, and then all that money vanishes.
Is this money only visible to revs? Is everyone seeing their own tailored view of the market that reacts only to them? Or does this money vanish for all BF punters as revs goes to have his £100 on?
There's loads of money visible to revs until he places his bet, and then all that money vanishes.
Is this money only visible to revs? Is everyone seeing their own tailored view of the market that reacts only to them? Or does this money vanish for all BF punters as revs goes to have his £100 on?
revs should bear in mind that:-
1) the balances he sees are behind real time
2) he is not the only punter trying to back Flying Dancer. There are thousands of punters around the country and even if they bet randomly, revs would still not be the only one trying to get on. Most likely one or more had their bets matched first.
3) and yes it could be a bot but not one targeting him.
1) the balances he sees are behind real time
2) he is not the only punter trying to back Flying Dancer. There are thousands of punters around the country and even if they bet randomly, revs would still not be the only one trying to get on. Most likely one or more had their bets matched first.
3) and yes it could be a bot but not one targeting him.
@brentford
revs is talking pre-play so the "beating the 1s delay" thing doesn't work here?
revs is talking pre-play so the "beating the 1s delay" thing doesn't work here?
interface privillages for want of a better phrase...
for the benefit of the tape I'm not remotely suggesting this goes on....
for the benefit of the tape I'm not remotely suggesting this goes on....
There is always a delay, even if the delay is shorter for special customers.
Am I dreaming, or have you told us before that you're betting via the website, Revs? If so, those prices you are trying to take may well be many seconds out of date.
should only be a second (max) if your settings are correct Lats'..
Maybe that's the issue, mate. Default appears to be 10 secs.
I can't really post detail on here...but I'd say all is not as it seems (in some markets).
just an aside - I though a few years back the in-house trading team was quite well recognised ..is the assumption they use the same interface and controls ?
Tampa Race 6
Betfair suspended the market long before the off and failed to open it again at any point. There were various amounts sitting in all the boxes, a large amount visible to lay the Fav.
These all miraculously disappeared before our eyes despite the market remaining 'Suspended' at all times.
Who had a 'pass' to bypass?
Can anyone explain?
Betfair suspended the market long before the off and failed to open it again at any point. There were various amounts sitting in all the boxes, a large amount visible to lay the Fav.
These all miraculously disappeared before our eyes despite the market remaining 'Suspended' at all times.
Who had a 'pass' to bypass?
Can anyone explain?
same 'person' that sticks £20k on clear photo winners at 1.01 when the market is suspended for everybody else ??
pops up immediately when it re-opens
pops up immediately when it re-opens
Paddy themselves wouldn't be playing those kind of markets, they wouldn't rely on one person's judgement...but someone is getting exclusive delay-free access
i mentioned on another thread the ghost amounts that appear in play that are not matched but miraculously are unmatchable almost certainly with a bigger delay on them for 'someone' to cancel for more security.
not sure I've explained that very well.
not sure I've explained that very well.
About a year ago on a quiet morning I made a rare visit to Purple. I had previously noticed that when I put an amount up to lay it was immediately doubled so for a bit of fun really I decided to keep moving the price out of a horse until I wouldn't mind backing it. This I did until it got to 7.2 (no arb available over here or it wouldn't have followed me). So now there was £20 available to back (10 was my lay and 10 was the bot) so at this point I put in £20 to back. I matched my own lay (zeroing out the bets) but the bot £10 disappeared and I was left with an unmatched back!
hulk23 08 Feb 25 23:00
same 'person' that sticks £20k on clear photo winners at 1.01 when the market is suspended for everybody else ??
pops up immediately when it re-opens
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think it's been cut to 10k after the 20k was mentioned on here tbh hulk.
same 'person' that sticks £20k on clear photo winners at 1.01 when the market is suspended for everybody else ??
pops up immediately when it re-opens
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think it's been cut to 10k after the 20k was mentioned on here tbh hulk.
brentford 22 Dec 24 14:20
guess the delay for an in house trader lol
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0.1 to 0.2 secs ?
guess the delay for an in house trader lol
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0.1 to 0.2 secs ?
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