Such is the high standard, 8/13 for a 9 dart finish in the World championships looks a great bet.

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Yes
1.56
£1.00
£0.56
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Yes
1.56
£110.00
£61.60
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1.59
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1.59
£22.58
£13.32
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1.59
£41.26
£24.34
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Yes
1.61
£96.70
£58.99
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Yes
1.65
£0.48
£0.31
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Yes
1.65
£110.52
£71.84
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Yes
1.68
£79.07
£53.77
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Backer's stake
Payout
Liability
Yes
1.52
£52.80
£27.46
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good luck binbag

TY mate.

8/13 against 4/9 looks good.

But has anyone gone through, say, the last 10 World Chmapionship tournaments and worked out how many matches against how many 9-darters?

I presume the bookies will have done so and come up with 4/9..hence proving 8/13 is value?

Only if the bookies forgot to price in their overround.

You can't look to far back as the standard now is markedly different. Paul Lims one in !990 wasn't repeated for 19 years and yet in the 2022 World Championships there was 3.

what's happened in the past has no effect on what might happen today
the way I look at it,even if someone gets the 1st 8 darts right, imo they,d still be odds on to miss the last double ,so your really betting on enough players to get the 1st 8 darts right to make the last double an odds against chance,its similar bet to golfs hole in one bet

not a darts backer but do like to watch the game and as op says the standard looks much higher now .

Agree with 1sttp in that forget about what's happened in the past and bet accordingly whether or not you think it will happen , personally i've no clue whether one or even more will land or not , history has no respect for the future and delving into stats you'll end up asking more questions than getting any answers.

Those odds off my radar for any event and especially when a centimetre will almost certainly decide your fate either way.


Good luck to anyone involved   

You have to look at some historical data to ascertain the likelihood of it happening. If it had never happened before then you wouldn't be taking 8/13.

Hope it lands for you bin bagged , no outright bet so will give me something to look out for   

it happening isn't really the deciding factor ,surely the deciding factor is how many have the 1st 8 darts right and missed out on the last dart ,in deciding if its good value

does anyone no the usual/average price of a 147 in snooker world championship,would it be odds on,or odds against ?

good luck binbag

Cheers. Slightly unusual betting patterns in a the first match tomorrow. For a match of this calibre there's been quite a lot of money  matched (27k compared with 4k 2k and 1k in the other afternoon matches) Hurrell backed into 4/7 from evens.

Given the number of legs played at the world champs, think this bet is a good and informed one...Best of luck.

A number of years ago, there was a thriving darts forum, a great golf one too, all dead now....darts was great banter when matches were in play and one year everyone was on Peter Wright at big odds....Cant remember the year but he lost in the final.

I just read that pundit and ex player Wayne Mardles wife Donna passed away a couple of days ago aged just 52 years old after a short illness.

There will be a few getting the first eight darts in. There will even be games where both players are on for it after six darts each. That last dart is always the hardest, even though it’s the biggest target they’ve aimed for in the sequence. Hope one lands, if I had to pick I’d say it would. Just need to avoid the surge of adrenaline! Good luck, Bin Bagged.

Cheers s.kenbo. Hopefully it'll come this side of Xmas.

whens it start? thanks

terrible news ,so young rip .

It’s on now, Foyles!

The top players don’t come out of second gear before Xmas! Might be a tough one to land early.

thanks kenbo

Dec 16, 2024 -- 1:55PM, 1st time poster wrote:

does anyone no the usual/average price of a 147 in snooker world championship,would it be odds on,or odds against ?

its usually slightly odds on a 147 from crucible stage since the introduction of bucket pockets

Dec 16, 2024 -- 3:34PM, aberdonia wrote:

A number of years ago, there was a thriving darts forum, a great golf one too, all dead now....darts was great banter when matches were in play and one year everyone was on Peter Wright at big odds....Cant remember the year but he lost in the final.

yep same for dogs, snooker & cricket also...probably going back 10 years now tbf

dead ducks now

90% of the people are the same on every thread,with a few specialists on each thread

when I saw 16 new posts since I last looked last night on this post,I thought it had been landed

This first match this afternoon, James Hurrell v Jim Long, I have an odds checker screen shot and on the day of the draw Hurrell was 2.2 with Bet Victor and Boyles, Evens with B365. (it wasnt an error on oddschecker as i checked the individual sites) Hurrell is now 1.59 on Betfair with plenty matched for a game like this. If this wasn't the World Championships i'd think this was a bent game.

************ LANDED ***********

There we have it.

you bagged it, wd.

Great stuff bin bagged   

I had a lucky escape.  Sunday night and Monday night I bet there would no 9 darter in each of the evening sessions at 1/20.  They cut it last night to 1/45

Well done OP.

Wow, can’t believe Kist got it and I’ve not even bothered watching it tonight. You hoped to land it before Xmas and did so without a sweat. Well done.

Cheers all. No doubt another one will be priced up tomorrow. If i can get 8/13 or bigger i'll put the winnings on.

I looked at tonight's line up and the only 2 I'd heard of were Aspinall and Kist(from BDO!) so watched the football! The standards's definitely improved MASSIVELY, well bet bb.

well done binbagged ,what's the odds for another one?

ok got it 1.5 on here

That’s where I remember Kist from too. Anderson, MVG and RVB were all over there first too. That was a good tournament on the BBC each year. Shame it went t1ts up, but the standard was very poor at the end.

s.kenbo it got embarrassing, remember one game it took about 25 double darts to finish!

There was a nervy leg in the match yesterday afternoon featuring the tranny player, the other player won the leg in 33 darts in true BDO style.

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That’s where I remember Kist from too. Anderson, MVG and RVB were all over there first too. That was a good tournament on the BBC each year. Shame it went t1ts up, but the standard was very poor at the end.

the bdo was the stronger event for many, many years bar Taylor....PDC was like Champions Tour Golf for a long time.....Obviously changed when everyone jumped ship year after year.

the averages at the bdo event were better than the pdc event for years...

It's the coverage and atmosphere though aberdonia that makes for great viewing , Sky miles ahead   

I think the Lakeside atmosphere was better than the Circus Tavern. The Worlds is superb here at the Ally Pally though. It’s the darting event of the year by a long way.

Wasn’t it Phil Taylor who pretty much formed the PDC as breakaway league away from the BDO. Agree though, Aberdonia. There was some great times for the BDO. Being on the BBC too everyone could watch it.

my mate went a few yrs ago great piss up but like watching an epl game from the the moon

they'll move it from the Ally Pally soon. 

fk all sentiment, all about money with these guys, if they think they can fill a bigger venue they'll go.

OP
wd
   GL

wd winners

Was going to post on this earlier, well done binb bagged.
Was going to say the comparison with high street and on here is hs won't be taking bets on no 9 drt fin, so not really a sign of value imo.

Tother thing is way venue is set up, temp on stage, humidity ect, even board type.

Was also going to say the reason it's a good bet is the chaser in a match, once the pressure is off has a good chance, not saying the top gins can't do it under pressure in a big match just an observation,as in this case the nine darter lost match.
Used to be a saying in pub darts about 180, s not winning games, ie the following darts being piss poor and lak of finish.

But well done and good to see someone from crowd getting a lift and a prostate cancer all getting 60k.

One last ting,one for the darts players, how many combinations is thar for a nine darter and has anyone ever done a non 180 180 141 9d finish on TV?

Game has come on a bit since Leighton Reece won in late 70,s, first darts I ever picked up and threw were hand wooden stems and feather flights, think Leighton made his own stems and flights.

WD winners but not a bet I cood place but a winners a winner,WD.

Went to Jollees in Longton,Stoke on Trent decades ago. Saw Cliff Lazerenko being  carried out, off his t*** , to his taxi home, after winning his match.

It said on the telly this morning there was around 3400 different permutations for a nine darter. I’d like to see 60-57-50 for three consecutive legs!

180-177-144 is fairly common, BNB. Going down for the treble 19 on the sixth dart means they can stay on treble 20 for the seventh and eighth.

another 9 darter on here  here is 1.5 ish  too short for me but looking through the firms littler is 22/1 in his next game ,the kid is fearless and has the ar$ehole to hold his nerve could be worth a tenner also Gary Anderson has the exp and bottle and 28/1 also could be worth a tenner in his next game ,don't know if other firms are bigger been on hills cant find any betting on 9 darters ,others would know more than me at darts but I'll risk a score for an interest .

Someone said he was 7s to one at any time. Seems the safer bet to me. He could play nine legs in his next match making the chance far more unlikely.

wonder who the  the 7s is  with kenbo ?

Can't seem to find him hitting one throughout the tournament....

Seen 25/1 to hit one next match

10/1 to win next match 9-0 in legs

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7,s with slybet to do it

slybet I had a free fiver bet and free 2 knicker bet on it for a bit of interest after reading this thread, it was 6,s enhanced to 7,s,so knowing slybet 7,s will have been best in village elsewhere

Has the number of televised matches been expanded or was it always shown from last 128? Haven't heard of most of the players so far.

I very smaller version of the hole in one gang,who saw an opportunity,when back in the day.bookies offered 66/1 for a hole in one in major golf tournaments,but unbeknown to most people,it happened quite a lot.

So they hit the shops,betting an 66/1 shot which was in effect an even money shot.

I don’t know the full story of this,but a gang used to put small bets on in shops ,around the country,knowing they had a good chance at 66/1

https://www.gambling.com/uk/news/the-hole-in-one-gang-how-golf-bettors-beat-...

There’s a lot more games than there used to be, Swifty. I couldn’t tell you how long it’s been like this but it’s been a good while now. Winning a first round game is like winning a cup final for some of the overseas qualifiers. The Asian lad yesterday being a prime example. Played well and beat a half decent player on merit.

the HOLE IN ONE BET ,was basicaly a bookmaker Rick in offering the odds for a named player to score a hole in one as opposed to getting 150 players x 2 rounds and 70 ish players getting 4 rounds,with some courses having 4 par 3,s ,you were getting roughly 1,700 chances at the best players in the world getting A HOLE IN ONE,they had it right off for a while

s kenbo, I've not really been watching like I used to in the good old days with Taylor, Anderson, Barney, Priestley etc, I preferred it then!

1st time poster 20 Dec 24 07:40 
the HOLE IN ONE BET ,was basicaly a bookmaker Rick in offering the odds for a named player to score a hole in one

was anyone.

Was ex bookies, a shop  manager and a ex track layer.
They visited every indy they could find and played singles, doubles, trebles and accas on five events I think.
Prices varied but were often on 5/1 each event sometimes bigger, some books didn't play multi  but gave silly prices on a single.

The biggest takeaway was how the racing press quickly dubbed them a gang,suggesting criminal element,books been chalking up false prices for years lol.
Headlines at time did not reflect the bets struck.
Think I read the true price was 6/4 ish and they chose events where it was nearer 1/1.
Most payed up but backers were going to object to licences, book sounds like a good read
One done a runner owing 25k, prob a lot of munee in early 90s.
Diff time altogether and not sure it bears much relevance to modern day darts, named player bets are lay material imvho and not what this type of bet is about.

hole in one odds they got would be even bigger steal today,when they were betting hole in ones ,200 yd par 3,s were a long /iron wood etc, today 6/7 iron for the long hitters

Wilson - Bristow 1989 Final

https://youtu.be/Bpbb20pxR70?si=KmGa64nFAFEKGcF9


Great days.......

i went to the Premier League Darts....it really is a rubbish watch....Players and board is like a pin in the distance....its just a piss up basically.

Sport is always better when you are young i find...

SLYBETS darts  super offer today

Luke LITTLER to hit a 180 in leg one 7 to 4 ,instead of evens
that looks a shocking price to me,what say the darts punters ?
not for me but I,ll be watching

Yes, shocking.

not all robbers wear masks ^^^^

It highlights what you always have to do with these so called enhancements because 7/4 will always look inviting for an " alleged " even money shot as it's a 14% swing.

However when analyzing how poor a price the even money is it puts the 7/4 into the correct perspective.

No thank you win or lose.

He’s gonna have three attempts probably. If they think he’s 50/50 to hit a 180 every three visits they’re either bonkers, or they have customers who are!

with slybet you've always got to assume that in this example ev,s would be worst price in the  village and 13/8 would be available elsewhere,so at 7 to 4 your getting a tiny bit back off them

Littler misses double 12 for a nine darter.

littler misses 9 farter by a mm

but shows lottery on darts betting littler to hit 180 in 1st leg didn't hit a treble 20 in whole leg,but threw a 180 with 1st 3 darts of 2nd leg

the standard is high coulda been 2 9 darters already  with a bit of luck by my reckoning ,40/1 most matches and you get 2 chances 1 for each player ,40/1  each match looks fair imo,but then again I'm no darts expert.

Heta also missed double twelve last night for a nine, Foyles.

thanks kenbo haven't been watching it tbh but will start ,as saying the standard looks high and 40/1 most matches any of the 2 players seems value to me and I'm playing it game by game level stakes tenner a game ,will lose most if not all but could well be 1 more at least hopefully and I will be on if it happens .good luck.

It will give you an interest in each game with a nice reward. Let’s hope another early one comes along.

cheers kenbo good luck.

BULLSEYE back tonight , Freddie flntoff , Luke littler as guest

Another double twelve missed! This time by Schindler. And he lost the leg!

Schlindler's Mist

foyles is pissed at Schindler's miss !

if you had a tenner at 40s that's a gutter, hard luck FOYLES

schindler was 33/1 but still a gutter !

the schindler game was 33/1 ^^^^

I imagine those odds will shorten after Xmas, Foyles. Will be best of seven sets then.

yeah I'd a thought so kenbo and the better players facing each other

Heta hits a 9 darter.

and guess what I didn't back it ,typical but ya cant do em all.

That’s £360k is cost Paddy Power so far in bonuses. Another quite achievable too.

Great stuff bin bagged