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Starmer - the allegations about Gregg Wallace are obviously deeply concerning
get down to the beaches Keir. then we can have a chat about deeply concerning ....
get down to the beaches Keir. then we can have a chat about deeply concerning ....
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20,000 boats at 50 a boat since they came in, extrapolate that out over 5/10 years
then work out how long ya gonna wait for a GP's appointment. But lets talk about Gregg Wallace shall we ??
then work out how long ya gonna wait for a GP's appointment. But lets talk about Gregg Wallace shall we ??
Can you chew gum and s ratch your head at the same time?
extrapolate 20k out over 5/10 years
why they not concluding their flee from civil war when they reach france ?? pretty safe last time i was there, nice beaujolais nouveau etc
why they not concluding their flee from civil war when they reach france ?? pretty safe last time i was there, nice beaujolais nouveau etc
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/dec/02/rwanda-asylum-scheme-spent-50m-on-flights-that-never-took-off-data-reveals
A failed Conservative plan to send people seeking asylum to Rwanda spent £50m on flights that never took off, new figures disclose.
The Home Office has also revealed that the scheme – which ran under Boris Johnson, Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak’s administrations – spent £715m over two years on the plan – £15m more than previously claimed.
The Guardian view on closing the Bibby Stockholm: a parable of failed asylum policy
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The disclosures were made as the home secretary, Yvette Cooper, faced criticism from MPs on Monday after the number of people crossing the Channel topped 20,000 since Keir Starmer was elected.
Data shows that ministers authorised the payment of £30m in 2023-24 to secure flights and trained escorts for detainees, prepare airfields and provide money to pay for police who helped to secure the airfield. A further £20m was spent on flight-related costs up to June 2024.
The Rwandan government has received payments of £290m after Johnson signed a deal with Paul Kagame’s regime, the document showed. Another £280m was spent on “other fixed costs” such as the development of digital IT and data systems, legal costs and staff costs.
The extra £95m was spent on detention centres to hold people before they could be sent to Rwanda.
Johnson’s Rwanda plan was supposed to act as a deterrent after a rise in the number of small boat arrivals. The plan was to deport “tens of thousands” of new arrivals so they could apply for asylum there.
“In the two years the partnership was in place, just four volunteers were sent to Rwanda at a cost of £700m,” Cooper told MPs. “The result of that massive commitment of time and money was 84,000 [who] crossed the Channel from the day the deal was signed to the day it was scrapped.
“This so-called deterrent did not result in a single deportation or stop a single boat crossing the Channel.”
It comes after Home Office figures showed 122 people made the journey on Sunday in two boats, which means 20,110 crossings have been recorded since Labour won the general election. Chris Philp, the shadow home secretary, urged ministers to introduce a hard limit on migrant numbers.
He said: “Behind all the bluster and all the chat about previous governments, we see [Cooper’s] record and her government’s record. A 64% increase in small boat crossings since the same period before the election, 6,000 extra people in hotels, the asylum backlog up by 11,000, all since 4 July.”
Labour sources said the weather played a “significant part” in the numbers, citing Home Office analysis they claimed showed that 11 October to 10 November saw the “highest ever ratio” of so-called red days in a month-long period – when weather conditions are considered to make crossings probable or highly probable.
The Conservative leader, Kemi Badenoch, has said an “effective deterrent for illegal migration” – such as the Rwanda plan – are among the ideas her party are considering as they set out a “new approach” on migration.
A failed Conservative plan to send people seeking asylum to Rwanda spent £50m on flights that never took off, new figures disclose.
The Home Office has also revealed that the scheme – which ran under Boris Johnson, Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak’s administrations – spent £715m over two years on the plan – £15m more than previously claimed.
The Guardian view on closing the Bibby Stockholm: a parable of failed asylum policy
Read more
The disclosures were made as the home secretary, Yvette Cooper, faced criticism from MPs on Monday after the number of people crossing the Channel topped 20,000 since Keir Starmer was elected.
Data shows that ministers authorised the payment of £30m in 2023-24 to secure flights and trained escorts for detainees, prepare airfields and provide money to pay for police who helped to secure the airfield. A further £20m was spent on flight-related costs up to June 2024.
The Rwandan government has received payments of £290m after Johnson signed a deal with Paul Kagame’s regime, the document showed. Another £280m was spent on “other fixed costs” such as the development of digital IT and data systems, legal costs and staff costs.
The extra £95m was spent on detention centres to hold people before they could be sent to Rwanda.
Johnson’s Rwanda plan was supposed to act as a deterrent after a rise in the number of small boat arrivals. The plan was to deport “tens of thousands” of new arrivals so they could apply for asylum there.
“In the two years the partnership was in place, just four volunteers were sent to Rwanda at a cost of £700m,” Cooper told MPs. “The result of that massive commitment of time and money was 84,000 [who] crossed the Channel from the day the deal was signed to the day it was scrapped.
“This so-called deterrent did not result in a single deportation or stop a single boat crossing the Channel.”
It comes after Home Office figures showed 122 people made the journey on Sunday in two boats, which means 20,110 crossings have been recorded since Labour won the general election. Chris Philp, the shadow home secretary, urged ministers to introduce a hard limit on migrant numbers.
He said: “Behind all the bluster and all the chat about previous governments, we see [Cooper’s] record and her government’s record. A 64% increase in small boat crossings since the same period before the election, 6,000 extra people in hotels, the asylum backlog up by 11,000, all since 4 July.”
Labour sources said the weather played a “significant part” in the numbers, citing Home Office analysis they claimed showed that 11 October to 10 November saw the “highest ever ratio” of so-called red days in a month-long period – when weather conditions are considered to make crossings probable or highly probable.
The Conservative leader, Kemi Badenoch, has said an “effective deterrent for illegal migration” – such as the Rwanda plan – are among the ideas her party are considering as they set out a “new approach” on migration.
I have some sympathy with the OP's post but where does he draw the line ?
" Oh shut up about Savile till we have stopped dark-skinned people coming in boats "
" Oh shut up about Savile till we have stopped dark-skinned people coming in boats "
Sparrow posting politics on a horse racing forum
pot/kettle/black
pot/kettle/black
If people insist on starting political threads on a horse racing forum such as leif then they shouldn't be surprised if others post to achieve some sort of balance. There is a Politics Forum for this sort of thing and I never start a thread about politics on this forum.
idiotic but unsurprising non sequitur from fishface. every post a stinker. what a fool
sparrer should broaden his outlook. every link from the profoundly dishonest and disingenuous faux-liberal grauniad. links are handy for those who struggle to make themselves understood
leafy a flat-out d1ckhead. fortunately hes blocked me and wont see this. aint datso leafy?
sparrer should broaden his outlook. every link from the profoundly dishonest and disingenuous faux-liberal grauniad. links are handy for those who struggle to make themselves understood
leafy a flat-out d1ckhead. fortunately hes blocked me and wont see this. aint datso leafy?
Well done to Sparrow for pointing out how corrupt the Uniparty of the Conservatives & Labour both are. 
Only the Reform Party are providing any form of opposition and they asked the current corrupt/incompetent Labour side of the Uniparty that masquerades as our Government for the crime stats for these invaders some weeks ago but they point blank refuse to disclose them....of course!
But remember, Diversity is our strength,
Only the Reform Party are providing any form of opposition and they asked the current corrupt/incompetent Labour side of the Uniparty that masquerades as our Government for the crime stats for these invaders some weeks ago but they point blank refuse to disclose them....of course! But remember, Diversity is our strength,
...and switching to Farage's mob will be no different in its outcome.
Totally given up voting for any of the counts.
no left, no centre, no right just an agenda to screw the proles into the deck now the elites are done with 'industrial man'
now it's just a cull of post-industrial man IMO.
Totally given up voting for any of the counts.
no left, no centre, no right just an agenda to screw the proles into the deck now the elites are done with 'industrial man'
now it's just a cull of post-industrial man IMO.
the current government have been in power for a very short tinme and have nit enouh time to tirn this atound
the totries failed to do it over 14 years we are sufferring in every walk of life from tory rule
the totries failed to do it over 14 years we are sufferring in every walk of life from tory rule
No mate, we are suffering from Blairs totally destructive New Labour policies, the tories were useless too, but Blair started this with his hideous open borders and mass immigration.
good bit on daily politics today, huge shortage of builders in the UK, so the addiction to foreign labour will continue until they can get hundreds of thousands of chavs to do apprenticeships.
Hulk another idiot using his Iq as part of his forum name
You have to laugh
You have to laugh
Don't worry about the chavs doing it the DWP have git people in hospitaks now hassling people when they're mentally or physically ill,just need to sort out how to get the wheelchairs up the scaffolding..
So the facts.
10% come in from small boats,even though they are used as a tool to fuel anger.
Tories spent 800million on a Rwanda scheme that no one cared about,it was effectively an election advert.no one got sent there,but at least they could say they would send them there.
More have come in on boats since election,so it wasn’t a deterrent.
The only real fact
Labour have sent 30% more home this year than tories last year.
Since brexit,
Less Europeans,but loads more from around the world.we ve swapped polish,white,Christian,European plumbers for different cultures from around the world.
The exact opposite of why most people voted brexit.
Yet they all love farages videos from beechy head,showing a dingy arriving on the beach.
The tories after brexit,had to let loads of immigrants in to try and bolster growth and trade,whilst pretending to stopping it.
Farage wants to shut the borders to please you.
Then ,privatise the NHS,so you pay insurance.
Give massive tax cuts to business,the elite he claims to hate.to generate growth,GDP.
Which ironically would need immigrants for it to succeed.
But the sadness is,a lot of people in this country,would be happy for their lives to made harder,worse,just as long an immigrant gets nothing..
The solution is simple.FIFA ,know.no one should qualify for full rights,entitlements till they ve lived here for 5 years.
By that time,they ve either started to contribute or been sent home.
10% come in from small boats,even though they are used as a tool to fuel anger.
Tories spent 800million on a Rwanda scheme that no one cared about,it was effectively an election advert.no one got sent there,but at least they could say they would send them there.
More have come in on boats since election,so it wasn’t a deterrent.
The only real fact
Labour have sent 30% more home this year than tories last year.
Since brexit,
Less Europeans,but loads more from around the world.we ve swapped polish,white,Christian,European plumbers for different cultures from around the world.
The exact opposite of why most people voted brexit.
Yet they all love farages videos from beechy head,showing a dingy arriving on the beach.
The tories after brexit,had to let loads of immigrants in to try and bolster growth and trade,whilst pretending to stopping it.
Farage wants to shut the borders to please you.
Then ,privatise the NHS,so you pay insurance.
Give massive tax cuts to business,the elite he claims to hate.to generate growth,GDP.
Which ironically would need immigrants for it to succeed.
But the sadness is,a lot of people in this country,would be happy for their lives to made harder,worse,just as long an immigrant gets nothing..
The solution is simple.FIFA ,know.no one should qualify for full rights,entitlements till they ve lived here for 5 years.
By that time,they ve either started to contribute or been sent home.
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