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By:
Cider
When: 16 Oct 24 21:55
I couldn't countenance letting either of them out. Murdering someone in cold blood, practically zero motive, out at 31, nah. No sane person would do one of those offences the chap did, never mind twice. And even now he's still trying to justify doing them, I see little contrition.
By:
stu
When: 16 Oct 24 22:01
I couldn't countenance letting either of them out. Murdering someone in cold blood, practically zero motive, out at 31, nah.

100% agree - some awful crimes get far too little punishment. In particular when they target another person's life directly.
By:
Cider
When: 16 Oct 24 22:06
So her story is that she got drunk, had a text row with someone. Her and her mate both tooled up with kitchen knives and went to the house where the lad was. They were rowing with him so owner of the house comes out to see what's going on, she plants the kitchen knife through his chest (ie, not even the lad they were rowing with).

Mitigation is that she was abused by step father, and learned to be aggressive as defensive technique.
By:
Cider
When: 17 Oct 24 18:25
31 months for a tweet.

yup
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 17 Oct 24 22:10
Does seem incredibly excessive, though her tweet was very inflammatory (encouraged mass murder).  It's also about stopping a growing problem escalating in it's tracks.  So much for women getting soft sentences heh!     

The bigger issue I have is this.  That someone made a complaint about the tweet and X responded that they saw nothing wrong with it, and wouldn't take it down.  So one rule for an individual and zero consequence for repeated offences from a foreign large corporation.  Something seriously wrong there.
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CLYDEBANK29
When: 17 Oct 24 22:14
response was from an automated bot.  Which if it was courtesy of X, you would assume it was powered by AI.  So much for Musk's expertise then.
By:
Cider
When: 18 Oct 24 12:30
Yes tweeted out of understandable anger, the whole tweet attacked many people and it was not literal, obviously. If there is a case for suspended sentences, this is one of them. I believe she herself lost a child.

People who cause actual harm get to walk away, some people who just write (stupidly) about harm get sent to prison. The tw@ts who felt it was fine to smash in the faces of armed female cops are not even facing any charges.

The establishment seeing her as evil personified wipes out any credit she has from being a little way up the grievance hierarchy (female), in fact right at the bottom, below pond life, gammons and paedos.
By:
Slicer
When: 18 Oct 24 12:44
My argument against perps who use "abused as a youngster" & mental health issues as mitigation is that there are many sufferers from those who do NOT go around killing, maiming, robbing. So it's got to be something else about the perps. I watched the Parole prog last night. I must say the Board members did not instill confidence as far as I was concerned. Care in the Community should be about Caring for the safety of the community rather than keeping an eye on someone to see if he or she reoffends.
By:
Cider
When: 18 Oct 24 12:56
The chap made the obvious point that she had all the education, then got into a fight over something trivial with another lag AFTER the education. Effectively saying that demonstrated she might not be fully ready for the outside. Perfectly sane. Then he let her out anyway!

So what repercussions will he face should she re-offend, given the fact that he overrode the evidence? (dw rhetorical!)

It didn't even look like prison where she was already, more like a holiday camp with a farm lol
By:
Cider
When: 18 Oct 24 13:04
What I gleaned is that smart(er) people can get around the parole interview, and dim people will flunk it. The chap was in complete denial about his drugs addiction. All they wanted to hear from him was that he had drug problems in the past, he completely regrets it and he was going to go clean from now on. Seemed to me he was a thug and would easily slip into trying to kill someone for a third time as soon as he got out, he blames everyone else for his problems, apart from the obvious.
By:
Cider
When: 18 Oct 24 13:20
Good to hear. Twatter is so ubiquitous it's pretty impossible to avoid its influence. Half of journalism now centres around people regurgitating twatter for their output, without leaving their house.

At least it doesn't have the major political bias it once had.
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